The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

[Henrique 9,133]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

So another angle shows Llorentes goal came off his arm. We need VAR to monitor VAR.

That goal was 100% legit. Yes, there was a small deflection in this arm, but anyone who understand about the handball rule will understand that goal was legit.

[Henrique 9,133]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

I feel the same VAR is not great. 

I much rather have the extra ref by goalie then VAR. 

Just stop it mate, this argument is completely ridiculous. City was winning with an illegal goal. Thats no funny or cool. Ask Spurs fans what they think about VAR after last night: you think you are done, and suddely VAR saves the day. I understand it sucks to celebrate a goal and minutes later realize the goal was illegal. To other side its amazing to get frustrated after conceding a goal, and moments later discover the goal won't be given because it was illegal. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

1 minute ago, Henrique said:

That goal was 100% legit. Yes, there was a small deflection in this arm, but anyone who understand about the handball rule will understand that goal was legit.

I prefer to recognise the opinion of ex Professional referee Mark Halsey. Thanks, anyway.

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

11 minutes ago, Henrique said:

That goal was 100% legit. Yes, there was a small deflection in this arm, but anyone who understand about the handball rule will understand that goal was legit.

What is this rule? Far as I'm concerned the laws of the game state any goal that was a result of a handball, deliberate or not, is disallowed. 

[Henrique 9,133]

8 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I prefer to recognise the opinion of ex Professional referee Mark Halsey. Thanks, anyway.

yeah, ex Professional referees are always right...if you want the opinion of an ex Professional referee here is one for you: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6934023/VAR-got-big-calls-spot-Tottenhams-victory-Manchester-City.html

Anyway, I'm not a big fan of appeal to authority, but since you brought it, Mark Halsey was a 3rd rate referee, anyway. The dude doesn't have big european games or big international games in his book.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

1 minute ago, Henrique said:

yeah, ex Professional referees are always right...if you want the opinion of an ex Professional referee here is one for you: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6934023/VAR-got-big-calls-spot-Tottenhams-victory-Manchester-City.html

Anyway, I'm not a big fan of appeal to authority, but since you brought it, Mark Halsey was a 3rd rate referee, anyway. The dude doesn't have big european games or big international games in his book.

Last time I looked if the ball goes in off a hand or arm it's disallowed. 

But nice of you to show up - have Chelsea lost again ???

[Henrique 9,133]

36 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

What is this rule? Far as I'm concerned the laws of the game state any goal that was a result of a handball, deliberate or not, is disallowed. 

The current rule is a bit vague, because its focused on the intent of the player. "Accidental" handball are not considered illegal. Thats why many people think Perisic penalty in WC final was unfair, and that PSG penalty against United was also unfair. From 1st june onwards the rules will be less vague, and the focus won't be the intent of the player, but the outcome. Here is an interesting BBC article about this: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47429316

Here is a quote from Ifab technical director David Elleray:

"We've changed it to say the body has a certain silhouette," said Elleray. "If the arms are extended beyond that silhouette then the body is being made unnaturally bigger, with the purpose of it being a bigger barrier to the opponent or the ball.

"Players should be allowed to have their arms by their side because it's their natural silhouette."

So, under current regulations Llorent goal wasn't a handball, because he had no intention of hitting the ball with his hand, and under new regulations that will be introduced in few months, his goal was as legal as well, because his arm was by his side, it was his "natural silhouette", he wasn't making himself bigger. To other side, under the hew regulations there won't be any doubt about situations as Perisic penalty and United vs PSG penalty, because in those situations the players were with their arms extended beyond their natural silhouette.

So, sorry @Fulham Broadway the ex professional referee duded doesn't understand the rule, because Llorent goal was 100% legit even if indeed there was a small deflection in his right arm. 

[Henrique 9,133]

18 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

But nice of you to show up - have Chelsea lost again ???

I get you hate me because I'm not a big fan of The Special One, but you don't it personal, mate.

[Special Juan 27,424]

55 minutes ago, Henrique said:

are you telling me you were supposed to jump up after a Manchester City goal? I get you wanted Spurs to lose so bad, but jumping up after a City goal is just odd.

Not when they were in my acca to win by two clear goals that cost me £400

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

Just now, Henrique said:

I get you hate me because I'm not a big fan of The Special One, but you don't it personal, mate.

Lol don't flatter yourself mate, it's just funny that you only usually turn up when Chelsea lose

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

7 minutes ago, Henrique said:

The current rule is a bit vague, because its focused on the intent of the player. "Accidental" handball are not considered illegal. Thats why many people think Perisic penalty in WC final was unfair, and that PSG penalty against United was also unfair. From 1st june onwards the rules will be less vague, and the focus won't be the intent of the player, but the outcome. Here is an interesting BBC article about this: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47429316

Here is a quote from Ifab technical director David Elleray:

"We've changed it to say the body has a certain silhouette," said Elleray. "If the arms are extended beyond that silhouette then the body is being made unnaturally bigger, with the purpose of it being a bigger barrier to the opponent or the ball.

"Players should be allowed to have their arms by their side because it's their natural silhouette."

So, under current regulations Llorent goal wasn't a handball, because he had no intention of hitting the ball with his hand, and under new regulations that will be introduced in few months, his goal was as legal as well, because his arm was by his side, it was his "natural silhouette", he wasn't making himself bigger. To other side, under the hew regulations there won't be any doubt about situations as Perisic penalty and United vs PSG penalty, because in those situations the players were with their arms extended beyond their natural silhouette.

So, sorry @Fulham Broadway the ex professional referee duded doesn't understand the rule, because Llorent goal was 100% legit even if indeed there was a small deflection in his right arm. 

Sounds like they're defending their own interests. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

6 minutes ago, Henrique said:

The current rule is a bit vague, because its focused on the intent of the player. "Accidental" handball are not considered illegal. Thats why many people think Perisic penalty in WC final was unfair, and that PSG penalty against United was also unfair. From 1st june onwards the rules will be less vague, and the focus won't be the intent of the player, but the outcome. Here is an interesting BBC article about this: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47429316

Here is a quote from Ifab technical director David Elleray:

"We've changed it to say the body has a certain silhouette," said Elleray. "If the arms are extended beyond that silhouette then the body is being made unnaturally bigger, with the purpose of it being a bigger barrier to the opponent or the ball.

"Players should be allowed to have their arms by their side because it's their natural silhouette."

So, under current regulations Llorent goal wasn't a handball, because he had no intention of hitting the ball with his hand, and under new regulations that will be introduced in few months, his goal was as legal as well, because his arm was by his side, it was his "natural silhouette", he wasn't making himself bigger. To other side, under the hew regulations there won't be any doubt about situations as Perisic penalty and United vs PSG penalty, because in those situations the players were with their arms extended beyond their natural silhouette.

So, sorry @Fulham Broadway the ex professional referee duded doesn't understand the rule, because Llorent goal was 100% legit even if indeed there was a small deflection in his right arm. 

 

The article still says that any goal that was a result of a handball, won't be allowed?

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The changes mean gaining control or possession and then scoring as a consequence of handling the ball will not be allowed - neither will a goal scored directly from handling the ball, regardless of intent.

Goals scored or created with the use of an accidental handball will not stand from next season onwards, the International FA Board (Ifab) have confirmed.

 

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

What a team this is going to be... Hazard, Pogba, Jovic... Probably Telles... Maybe De Liht and still they can buy more. Or they can go for someone like Mbappe or Neymar. @Vesper what do you think?

[Vesper 28,772]

6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

What a team this is going to be... Hazard, Pogba, Jovic... Probably Telles... Maybe De Liht and still they can buy more. Or they can go for someone like Mbappe or Neymar. @Vesper what do you think?

I think I laid out a massive post on who they would or could go for and who they would sell, I will try and find it.

[nyikolajevics 2,573]

16 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

What a team this is going to be... Hazard, Pogba, Jovic... Probably Telles... Maybe De Liht and still they can buy more. Or they can go for someone like Mbappe or Neymar. @Vesper what do you think?

Capello was not even informed about being sacked by Real Madrid, Marca and AS knew it earlier But if that's the case they shouldn't be cheapskates with us.

[Vesper 28,772]

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[nyikolajevics 2,573]

8 minutes ago, Vesper said:

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Wow Mathieu Flamini plays for Getafe? I thought he retired like 10 years ago.

[Vesper 28,772]

1 minute ago, nyikolajevics said:

Wow Mathieu Flamini plays for Getafe? I thought he retired like 10 years ago.

still rolling on at 35yo (just turned a month and a half ago) lol

12 games 580 minutes this season, so deffo not a regular