BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 This just shows how good robben is.Without him, bayern are a second tier teamAnd Ribery and Alaba. I dont understand how people rate Ribery so low nowdays. He isnt what he was few years ago, but is still very much Bayern's Modric. Without him, Bayern plays alot worse. However bayern as a whole gone down ever since guardiola took over. Under heynckess it was probably best team of last few years, IMO equal or even better than barca 2010-2012. Guardiola obviously had to fuck them up with tiki taka bullshit.BUT what a brilliant game from Porto. Absolutely love such nights when small teams smack big ones. Atletico last year, BVB year before. Certainly very strong squad, this porto. Hope they keep the advantage in second game. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Pep is lucky, just as Van Gaal was at the WC. Robben carries the whole attack by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 More the fault of the PSG staff then for bringing him on. This isn't the last knocking of the French cup, this the CL where every decision counts vitally. If he was not fit he shouldn't make the bench, no excuses and they have enough so called quality to field a fit player and switch things around rather than bring on Luiz and watch him get murdered. A fully fit Luiz is a worry, a half fit Luiz is like a fucking disaster.I didn't understand how he was playing either. Apparently, they only have 3 CBs. Motta was injured as well so he couldn't fill the role in. But I agree, they should not have played him. A fullback or midfielder filling in would've been better.Not that I care. I hope Barca destroy them at Camp Nou. Special Juan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Intensity off the ball wins again. DYC., CHOULO19 and The Mak 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 They're so dull without him and Ribery. You can notice Alaba's absence as well.They have a squad filled with great players but those players lack incisiveness, width and the individual quality to conjure up some magic. They made a big mistake going into the season without a backup for Robben and Ribery.Its simple really, no other players have the close control dribbling ability like hazard, ribery and robben so they just pass and pass with players who preferred counterattacks under jupp heynckes. We need to find another hazard control dribbler out there, those guys are the one of the most important part of teams imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Intensity off the ball wins again.I want to see this in Chelsea colours so badly. Pressing, pace, dynamism, attacking and defending collectively. The Chels and The Mak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Monaco, Atletico, Porto all able to play high pressing with efficient and quite nice football, but we do fuck all in every big game we play. Sit deep and watch them overrun our team. The Chels and lionsden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan92 217 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I want to see this in Chelsea colours so badly. Pressing, pace, dynamism, attacking and defending collectively.Honestly, i think that that was exactly how Mou envisions our team playing soon. I would love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I told everyone Porto was the dark horse for this. They are a well olied team, strength in all areas, and can play a variety of ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Honestly, i think that that was exactly how Mou envisions our team playing soon. I would love it.What makes you think that? Passive defending is Mourinho's trademark. We Hate Scouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwan92 217 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 What makes you think that? Passive defending is Mourinho's trademark.Unless you're being sarcastic...I don't think Porto, Inter, and RM passively defended their way to titles, trebles, etc.We won those two BPL titles through passive defending? dUMB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Its simple really, no other players have the close control dribbling ability like hazard, ribery and robben so they just pass and pass with players who preferred counterattacks under jupp heynckes.We need to find another hazard control dribbler out there, those guys are the one of the most important part of teams imo.Players of that kind are incredibly valuable, but it's not just that. You also need movement, intensity and incisiveness.Porto really outworked Bayern today. They were running like crazy. No team can perform like that in every game though, so it will be interesting to see if they can manage it again. Can't wait for the game at Allianz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Unless you're being sarcastic...I don't think Porto, Inter, and RM passively defended their way to titles, trebles, etc.We won those two BPL titles through passive defending?Against big sides of course they did (with the exception of Real but when it ultimately mattered, i.e. CL SFs, their approach was disappointing).Passive, deep defending can definitely be effective as has been proved but it is so boring to watch and is being outdone by proactive, high-intensity play nowadays. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't believe Barca were going to have a stroll at the Bridge, like against MC, PSG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Against big sides of course he did. Passive, deep defending can definitely be effective as has been proved but it is so boring to watch and is being outdone by proactive, high-intensity play these days.We saw it last season against City away, which I still believe was our best performances under Mourinho. Pressed and harried for most of the match as soon as they entered our half, it was brilliant.Now this season it seems we have such a lazier attitude, relying on our new acquisitions to just scrape a win/hold for a draw, when in all honesty it's worse; we play as if it's 2011/12 all over again but without the belief. We were afraid a lot of the time in the two matches against City this season. The team has improved a lot since last season, so how does that work?! Strange. Beigl and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samzilla 517 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Tbf, he should not be playing. He suffered a hamstring injury just 10 days ago. He's heavily restricted in his movements. Suarez's 2nd goal was absolutely brilliant though. Top class.Barca have embarrassed another team. That front three is too good. Three players that can hit you with individual brilliance. Strong defensive display as well. Can't say I envy PSG for having to face them. That game is over.How is it possible for 3 players to make major individual errors in the same game? Dante, Boateng and Alonso have really cost their side today. Huge win for Porto. They were fantastic overall. The intensity, the pace.. Amazing. Combined with quality play on the ball. They played without fear and went at Bayern. Attacking and defending collectively, that's what it's all about.Bayern were poor. They lose too much quality, invention and individual brilliance with both Robben and Ribery out. It's like Chelsea without Hazard and Matic/Costa. They're capable of destroying Porto at home (if Robben and/or Ribery is back), but Porto are no pushovers. I think Porto will manage to go through.lol, at least bayern spread it out across 3 players. all it took was 1 player to make major individual errors in the same game to ruin our league cup chances a couple years ago. remember that ivanovic howler? two turnovers in our defensive third that led directly to swansea goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Too bad Porto will likely be torn apart after this season. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 lol, at least bayern spread it out across 3 players. all it took was 1 player to make major individual errors in the same game to ruin our league cup chances a couple years ago. remember that ivanovic howler? two turnovers in our defensive third that led directly to swansea goals.I don't remember that tbh, but at least that's one player. I would go insane if Terry, Cahill and Cesc did what those three did in a CL 1/4. 10 min into the game and you're already 2-0 behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 We saw it last season against City away, which I still believe was our best performances under Mourinho. Pressed and harried for most of the match as soon as they entered our half, it was brilliant.Now this season it seems we have such a lazier attitude, relying on our new acquisitions to just scrape a win/hold for a draw, when in all honesty it's worse; we play as if it's 2011/12 all over again but without the belief. We were afraid a lot of the time in the two matches against City this season. The team has improved a lot since last season, so how does that work?! Strange.Oh how I long for us to play the big games with the intensity and pressing we used at City away last season. The Mak and kc_blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Too bad Porto will likely be torn apart after this season.They'll get a ton of profit and rebuild through their extensive scouting networkI love the way Porto is run, sign talented players (18-23 age) that fit your system, develop them, play a good style of football, get the attention of other clubs and then sell the players for a nice profit in 2-3 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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