blue out west 27 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 The cause is great, well done Invisible Children.However, I'm not in favour of US military action. I'm still trying to debate if this is propaganda or a cause that's still retained its purity.100% PROPAGANDAIts admitted goal is to put political pressure on governments to kill Kony and eliminate the LRA.It is a simple move to establish a new precedent for legal assassinations of foreign nationals by national governmentsFrom what i'm aware of by funding the KONY 2012 project, you are too funding the Uganda's military who have also carried out acts of rape and murder upon innocent people! Support freedom and justice but be aware of how you do it!NOT supporting tyrants is much more simple. No one is going to do it though, because its not cool. Supporting corporate monopolies which compromise political processes in almost every single government is the #1 way these tyrants are supported. People like Kony, and the leadership of Ugandan military, as well as governments in Nigeria and the DRC (just to speak on current Africa) are only contractors to those corporate mob powers.So if you actually wanna do something, don't work for the people and companies that pay people to cut arms off and rape children etc. and don't do business with them either. At least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 100% PROPAGANDAIts admitted goal is to put political pressure on governments to kill Kony and eliminate the LRA.It is a simple move to establish a new precedent for legal assassinations of foreign nationals by national governmentsI wrote an article on what I believe is the real motive, if you'd like to read it: http://articulateramblings.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/joseph-kony-colonialism-in-disguise/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue out west 27 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I wrote an article on what I believe is the real motive, if you'd like to read it: http://articulateram...sm-in-disguise/Decent article and well written, but I gotta say, do you think there would ever a movie about this if Uganda was devoid of valuable natural resources?If they made a movie about every guy like Kony in the world, they would have to make one every hour, and most of them would be about US/UK/CA/EU nationals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Decent article and well written, but I gotta say, do you think there would ever a movie about this if Uganda was devoid of valuable natural resources?If they made a movie about every guy like Kony in the world, they would have to make one every hour, and most of them would be about US/UK/CA/EU nationals.I don't. I'm very sceptical about this because it's simply blown up far too quickly. I've never seen anything like it. While I respect the cause to raise awareness about Kony, it just seems to me there's so much more to it than meets the eye.It's just another reason for the US to impose its colonial ways upon the world. AFRICOM's their attempt that, despite being rebuffed by most governments they still believe they have a right to police the world. Convenient how they've know about him for 20-years but choose to 'strike' the same year Uganda find 2.5 million barrels of oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Bah, you can kill Kony but you can't kill his influence.orYou can kill a man but you can't kill an idea.orCut a Hydra's head off and three more grow back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue out west 27 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I don't. I'm very sceptical about this because it's simply blown up far too quickly. I've never seen anything like it. While I respect the cause to raise awareness about Kony, it just seems to me there's so much more to it than meets the eye.It's just another reason for the US to impose its colonial ways upon the world. AFRICOM's their attempt that, despite being rebuffed by most governments they still believe they have a right to police the world. Convenient how they've know about him for 20-years but choose to 'strike' the same year Uganda find 2.5 million barrels of oil.and the same year that the US economy isn't even showing a superficial bouncing back in the stock exchange. the big economic powers have been doing their very best to consolidate their wealth through control of all the remaining natural resources so that when the fiat currency system collapses (which it will very soon) they will be sitting on all the material wealth when their money loses all value.Bah, you can kill Kony but you can't kill his influence.orYou can kill a man but you can't kill an idea.orCut a Hydra's head off and three more grow back.I'd bet all my money he isn't even in the top 10 of powerful men in Uganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 And people are victims of political correctness and persuasion of bleeding hard liberals once more. Educate yourselves and research before you make a decision on this matter and link it to the world. I can't believe you guys see one (obviously overbias video) and you say off with the mans head before researching the facts. Kony is a terrible man. No sane person denies this. So is the ugandian army. They are known for mass rape, murder. and extremely violent crimes themselves. The LRA has not attacked anyone in Uganda since 2006; in fact Kony hasn't been there since. Funding from Invisible children is to benefit the ugandian army. To note is that kony is a known criminal and his soldiers are also victims(adding to the complexity), attempts to remove him before(there have been a few) have failed and resulted in massive backlash(more violence). So before you go on donating and thinking your changing the world, you may be making it worse.http://justiceinconf...2-down-a-notch/http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/These two blogs/articles sum up my view perfectly. One was written by an london school of econmics phd grad; while the other by a canadian(to be noted we have the highest post secondary education rates and were recently dubbed by times the most intellectual country, #justsayingmotherland)edit: changes people from english. My statement applies generally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I canceled my action kit order - they give 31% of their profits to the cause. Not enough for me.I appreciate the awareness it's causing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Dw, im for the cause, I'm not taking the piss. Just laughed when I saw this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Shocking. Watched the vid and simply hope that this guy does get stopped. I don't care about some of the minor details, i just hope this guy gets bought to justice because what he's doing is horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Kony is virtually depicted in Blood Diamond.They should arrest the guy and leave though. That's it. It may send out a message but like mentioned before it's unfortunately difficult to kill what he does even if he is arrested. It's also very unfortunate that a situation has to get so dyar before it reaches the pubic eye or action is taken. With Uganda being one of the richest countries in oil it's understandable that these 'cynical' ulterior motive hypothesis' have arisen. Especially since this has been happening for years and we all know about sierra leone diamond industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 ile be honest i don't know a lot about it but i dont get how people putting stickers up in Manchester is going to destabilize a Ugandan Warlord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I agree this man should be brought to justice... but it's insane how a youtube Video has such influence over people, it shows how easy it is to manipulate people.I was interested to see what other Ugandans thought of this viral video, and i found this news report - http://latimesblogs....2-reaction.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Perhaps the powerful governments DO have an interest in keeping him doing what he's doing...Someone mentioned that he's depicted in "Blood Diamond" - The diamond industry is one reason..Keeping the region unstable is also big interest for some major governments.In 3 days the vid has over 40 million views on YouTube and it's all over CNN and other major networks and most ppl (including myself) are hearing about this guy for the first time... Maybe he wanted out and this vid is a threat to keep him in the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish House Mafia 508 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Uganda has diamonds and oil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent 403 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DO73Ese25Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 lol well that video just basically stopped this mission.NEXT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Scam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Why stop one African rebel leader when there are dozens as bad or worse as him spread around the continent? Even if you get rid of him someone will take his place. It's like trying to shovel shit against the tide, there's very little we can do to stop this if we focus on the highest levels of leadership. We should look to eliminate the root causes that motivate rebels; for example this Kony bloke was rebelling against the awful leader of Uganda at the time, Idi Amin, who's rap sheet would make Kony look like a small time street thug.There wouldn't be any rebels if African countries had by and large stable, trustworthy and competent governments. This is where we, the industrialized world, should focus our efforts, supporting governments and manipulating elections to ensure that its a sane candidate that comes to power. The 2008 elections in Zimbabwe are a good example, Morgan Tsvangirai may not be Franklin D Roosevelt but he's streets ahead of that insane old man Sir Robert Mugabe, and yet Mugabe rigged the election and swore himself in as President for what must feel like the 10th term of office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 There wouldn't be any rebels if African countries had by and large stable, trustworthy and competent governments. This is where we, the industrialized world, should focus our efforts, supporting governments and manipulating elections to ensure that its a sane candidate that comes to power.We should bloody well not. Europe, America, in fact almost everyone believes they have some divine right to interfere in African affairs. Please. We don't care about democracy there, we care for their natural resources, we care for their oil, we care for their conflict diamonds. AFRICOM is prime example of the rest of the world believing they're in charge of Africa, how dare we put a military presence there. A presence that's been rebuffed by almost all the African government, it should be noted. While there should perhaps be some protocol to keep an eye that the elections are fair, we shouldn't manipulate them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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