🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Ruben Loftus-Cheek

[LAM09 7,056]

 

 

 

Young and Delph ahead of Bertrand? Cahill ahead of Tarkowski? 

England fails because they bring names instead of players who are good. 

You could form long term and pick lets say Pope and Tarkowski who are familiar from Burnley, but coach will end up playing Butland who was average this season and Cahill who is way past his best. 

On another point, I understand you want best players in your nt team, but when it comes to RLC Im very excited about him being picked, since Im not english, but Chelsea fan. And he was certainly best young english player this season along with TAA (not counting already established players like Alli, Sterling,...)...there are quite few others who are more questionable picks than RLC IMO.

 

Need a mixture of youth & experience. Tarkowski (is on standby) should have been chosen ahead of Stones IMO. I agree with the point that reputation comes first more often than not when England is concerned to their detriment, more often than not.

 

I'm not English either but I look at it from an unbiased POV. Welbeck, Stones & Pickford/Butland are also in that bracket.

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

I hope the lad is better than what I think and even half as good as some others of us think.

[Tomo 21,751]

8 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Young and Delph ahead of Bertrand? Cahill ahead of Tarkowski? 

England fails because they bring names instead of players who are good. 

You could form long term and pick lets say Pope and Tarkowski who are familiar from Burnley, but coach will end up playing Butland who was average this season and Cahill who is way past his best. 

On another point, I understand you want best players in your nt team, but when it comes to RLC Im very excited about him being picked, since Im not english, but Chelsea fan. And he was certainly best young english player this season along with TAA (not counting already established players like Alli, Sterling,...)...there are quite few others who are more questionable picks than RLC IMO.

England look like they are playing a back 3. In that case Young and Cahill are better picks than Bertrand and Tarkowski.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

England look like they are playing a back 3. In that case Young and Cahill are better picks than Bertrand and Tarkowski.

Are they tho? Cahill has been exposed playing back 3 time and time again whilst Bertrand is an excellent wing back. If I were Southgate I would not play a back 3 at all. England have mediocrity in depth in mdifield and defense. No need to emphasize that. IMO they should cater around their best attackers Kane and Sterling and support them with midfielders who can play through teh lines. Wich is why i am amazed Wilshere is not in the squad. They have only 4 central mids and 4 centre backs in the squad. But 4 central strikers when they are most likely only play. Just from the mathematics teh only way this makes sense is if they play their outdated 442. Selecting players like Delph and Young who were too bad to play their main position as cms and now are full-back shoe-ins about real full backs and real centre backs is completely beyond me. There must be something going on behind the scenes. Well thank god Southgate selected 3 right back, so at least they are covered if Belgium decides to play KDB, Mertens and Hazard all on the left wing at the same time

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3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Are they tho?

Yeah. Walker Stones Maguire I think. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Honestly other than Southgate having worked with him at U21, I dont see how he warrants a place in that squad. He has 2 goals and 3 assists in 25 appearances for the whole season (throw in his fitness issues where he rarely plays a full match too), if that were any other attacking midfield/wide player their would be massive questions asked and if I were English I would 100% think its a huge risk. If England perform badly people will wonder why the likes of Wilshere (hasn't missed anywhere as many games as previous seasons and has the ability to go past players, control a match from a deeper position and will take the ball anywhere on the park) and Shelvey (really surprised he wasn't called up, hes not a world class player by any means but he is more what England need in MF, able to play forward, not scared to take risks) didn't get called up who have been better than Ruben this season. 

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17 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Honestly other than Southgate having worked with him at U21, I dont see how he warrants a place in that squad. He has 2 goals and 3 assists in 25 appearances for the whole season (throw in his fitness issues where he rarely plays a full match too), if that were any other attacking midfield/wide player their would be massive questions asked and if I were English I would 100% think its a huge risk. If England perform badly people will wonder why the likes of Wilshere (hasn't missed anywhere as many games as previous seasons and has the ability to go past players, control a match from a deeper position and will take the ball anywhere on the park) and Shelvey (really surprised he wasn't called up, hes not a world class player by any means but he is more what England need in MF, able to play forward, not scared to take risks) didn't get called up who have been better than Ruben this season. 

This is England mate, a yes man in charge and players in absolute blistering form like Sessengnon staying at home. Also leaving Shelvey at home but allowing players like Henderson to constantly be picked because of the club he's at and the old 'Lion heart" label. It will be the same at the WC as it is every 4 years...under whelming, sideways passing, mistakes, no freedom and players like Cahill, Henderson, and Dier all getting exposed for the average players they are.

Fuck me we are taking Welbeck.

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1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Honestly other than Southgate having worked with him at U21, I dont see how he warrants a place in that squad. He has 2 goals and 3 assists in 25 appearances for the whole season (throw in his fitness issues where he rarely plays a full match too), if that were any other attacking midfield/wide player their would be massive questions asked and if I were English I would 100% think its a huge risk. If England perform badly people will wonder why the likes of Wilshere (hasn't missed anywhere as many games as previous seasons and has the ability to go past players, control a match from a deeper position and will take the ball anywhere on the park) and Shelvey (really surprised he wasn't called up, hes not a world class player by any means but he is more what England need in MF, able to play forward, not scared to take risks) didn't get called up who have been better than Ruben this season. 

It was the right call not to take Shelvey, IMO. He has only been great in recent months and he has never been consistent (or world class). Taking players to the World Cup because they perform in last few months of the season is a big NO-NO. It's like buying players only because they did well at the Euros or World Cup when they are in actual fact a bad player.

[LAM09 7,056]

It was the right call not to take Shelvey, IMO. He has only been great in recent months and he has never been consistent (or world class). Taking players to the World Cup because they perform in last few months of the season is a big NO-NO. It's like buying players only because they did well at the Euros or World Cup when they are in actual fact a bad player.

Not sure how 6 games max is comparing to 6 months.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

On 18/05/2018 at 7:35 PM, Jason said:

It was the right call not to take Shelvey, IMO. He has only been great in recent months and he has never been consistent (or world class). Taking players to the World Cup because they perform in last few months of the season is a big NO-NO. It's like buying players only because they did well at the Euros or World Cup when they are in actual fact a bad player.

Honestly not taking Wilshere and/or Shelvey will kill England's chances of controlling a match I think. Shelvey isn't a great player but hes demonstrated an ability to dictate the tempo of games for Newcastle and even at Swansea. I wouldn't say taking players who have only performed in the last few months of a season is a no no, you want players who are good but also players who are in form, I think he'd of been a worth while risk considering RLC has been called up..  could argue hes shown much more consistency than RLC the last wee while as well. 

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On 5/20/2018 at 0:12 AM, OneMoSalah said:

Honestly not taking Wilshere and/or Shelvey will kill England's chances of controlling a match I think. Shelvey isn't a great player but hes demonstrated an ability to dictate the tempo of games for Newcastle and even at Swansea. I wouldn't say taking players who have only performed in the last few months of a season is a no no, you want players who are good but also players who are in form, I think he'd of been a worth while risk considering RLC has been called up..  could argue hes shown much more consistency than RLC the last wee while as well. 

Shelvey may have demonstrated the ability to control games but the issues, he isn't or can't do that on a consistent basis. He may have been in decent form in the last few months but there's no guarantee he'll maintain that especially in a whole different environment. Plus, let's not forget he's a bit of a hot head. Can't blame Southgate for wanting players he can trust and rely on to do a job.

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Really happy for RLC to get the call up. Hope he gets to showcase his talent in the world cup. A decent world cup would seal his place in the squad with us without a doubt. Also with EL, him, Ampadu, Andreas, CHO can get a good launching pad.

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On 22/05/2018 at 5:00 AM, bakayokofan said:

Really happy for RLC to get the call up. Hope he gets to showcase his talent in the world cup. A decent world cup would seal his place in the squad with us without a doubt. Also with EL, him, Ampadu, Andreas, CHO can get a good launching pad.

Ive not been his biggest supporter but I'm open to the possibility he has got his act together some so will be waching him - hoping.

“Our best player” – Chelsea loan star’s manager doesn’t hold back in praise

http://www.chelsea-news.co/2018/05/best-player-chelsea-loan-stars-manager-doesnt-hold-back-praise/

[Superblue 6,372]

I thought he played pretty well for England tonight. He definitely has the technical ability and strikes me as a player who would raise his game alongside better players.

He definitely looks an option in a midfield three, and based currently, I would much prefer him in our midfield over Bakayoko and Drinkwater.

His fitness carries a bit of a question mark, but that is what a squad is for.

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Ruben Loftus-Cheek issues Chelsea quit threat if progress continues to be stalled at Stamford Bridge

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/england-star-ruben-loftus-cheek-12673169

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9 hours ago, the wes said:

Ruben Loftus-Cheek issues Chelsea quit threat if progress continues to be stalled at Stamford Bridge

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/england-star-ruben-loftus-cheek-12673169

It is now upto himself now going forward in his career to show that he is good enough week in week out to be a CFC player , two goals and 3 assists last season hardly screams 1st name on the CFC team sheet , 2bh i want him to be so good that he is 1 of the 1st names on the cfc team sheet because that means more than likely that whoever the manager is, deems him good enough to play every week , i think most CFC supporters would like to have players like Kante,Hazard,Azpil,mmm then the rest seem about the same level.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Think he can take the same route as Courtois if he is patient enough and willing to work hard. Hopefully manager changes will make him think it is a golden opportunity to show his best and make the new manager impressed, not just fuming there thinking he is already a top class player.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Should be starting for England. 

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Just now, The Skipper said:

Should be starting for England. 

And probably for us next season too especially if we don't add midfield reinforcements during the summer.

[Tomo 21,751]

5 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Should be starting for England. 

I think super sub is his best role for this world cup. If Southgate's going down the high intensity route he did in the first half he'd be tanked by half time every game, and thats just thinking the game in isolation and not the quick turnover.