Madmax 9,219 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Absolutely zero wrong with what he's said, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Lol. If he wants hard-working kids then there is quick solution for this, he can choose either Musonda or Colkett, who both are pretty damn good at tracking back and defence. Though neither is 6"4'.But nah, that's tough love treatment as you say. I remember that Varane hasn't had easiest time before. I didn't pick up Ruben's lack of effort so cannot confirm if there is really some substance to the assessment but it's clear as day to me that seems like stimulation process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFC888 219 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Mourinho's clearly disappointed and it's slightly unsavory to see this out in the public, but to be fair he's bloody right. No special treatment because you're younger, you do what's expected of you, or you don't play.I'm still certain there's a bit of mind games involved though, and I'm hoping RLC will take it the right way, take it as a challenge, and build from here. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Maybe are just mind games to motivate RLC...Yeah I'd go with this.. take it with a pinch of salt, this is all gunpowder for RLC in hopes that he will motivate himself to be better. Maybe Mourinho is doing him a favour!Jeffrey Bruma said, in an article I read yesterday.. that RLC and Solanke BOTH need to take their chances now.. while the iron is still hot, or it will never happen for them! supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Absolutely zero wrong with what he's said, imo. It just the manner, through the media. And there is nothing Ruben can do for 2 months, chances are rare at Chelsea, unless you are an untouchable (Ivanovich, Oscar, Hazard,...). KDB, Mata, Luiz, Schürrle, Salah, Cuadrado,... There where clear signs early on that Mourinho didn't like them (except maybe Luiz who was immense in the big games), but they didn't fit his profile and we all know what happened to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I don't see any love, guys. I don't remember something like this, actually. For Varane, for example, only flattery. "He's gonna be better than Blanc". Shit like that. The same for Morata, Casemiro, Fabinho, Nacho and Jose. Only good words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 It just the manner, through the media. And there is nothing Ruben can do for 2 months, chances are rare at Chelsea, unless you are an untouchable (Ivanovich, Oscar, Hazard,...). KDB, Mata, Luiz, Schürrle, Salah, Cuadrado,... There where clear signs early on that Mourinho didn't like them (except maybe Luiz who was immense in the big games), but they didn't fit his profile and we all know what happened to them. Oscar is far from untouchable, as his treatment in the second half of the season shows (not starting big games, getting pulled at HT in some). I don't even mind him being public -- imo it just reinforces to Ruben that if he can get praised to the high clouds in a press conference, he can get pulled down just as sharply. Keeps him on his toes. I'm not sure that this should be read as Mourinho somehow "not liking him" - let's face it, he has been given chances and hasn't yet taken them and this is a reminder to keep pushing himself, not take things for granted. I think Mourinho knows exactly what he's doing and is looking for a particular reaction that will completely convince him about Ruben's temperament, because the skill is obvious. A sort of a final frontier, if you will. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Someone has actually created a 'Lazy Loftus Cheek' account on Twitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Typical Mourinho mind games, this is not a message only to RLC. This message is indirectly to ALL the youngsters.He's only using RLC to let the kids know, play on 200% or you won't get many chances. For RLC, this is a test and prewarning for him. Jose is looking for a reaction in the preseason.Otherwise, he will have his excuse ready to not use him like he promised. chrismada9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Otherwise, he will have his excuse ready to not use him like he promised.My bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 glad Mourinho is calling him out, RLC needs to learn if he is ever going to make it at Chelsea he is going to have to work his socks off, Mou is also testing his attitude to see how he reacts to this, its one of the reason why he never gave De Bruyne a chance, when he got dropped he never worked hard to get back in the team that is not the type of player Jose wants kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 did not a lot of us say the exact thing after the WBA game too? kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Typical Mourinho mind games, this is not a message only to RLC. This message is indirectly to ALL the youngsters.He's only using RLC to let the kids know, play on 200% or you won't get many chances.For RLC, this is a test and prewarning for him. Jose is looking for a reaction in the preseason.Otherwise, he will have his excuse ready to not use him like he promised.Exactly, I mean some people think that Mourinho's being a bit harsh on RLC.. but rather it's more along the lines of "tough love".. you can see that Mourinho cares about our youth development, as well as the first team.. he wants to see progress with the young talent that is coming through. If some of the players are not pulling their weight, he WILL say something! That's his job!Any other manager would let it slide with a player.. not Mourinho! There's a reason why Mourinho is a world class manager!! stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 So Oscar can play like an absolute shithouse for half of the season and not get slated but Loftus Cheek who has played 2 pointless games all season, (games which he worked had with and without the ball, mind) gets slated publicly in a pointless post season friendly? This isn't "tough love", it's just really bizarre. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin 835 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Fully agree with Mou. RLC is in a spot where there is nothing for him to do in the youth teams so he has to show full commitment on the pitch when he gets the chances. I too wrote after the WBA game that while he clearly has potential, his work rate was far from impressive. Hopefully Ruben takes it the right way and works very hard during the summer, and if he does not then he needs to be put aside for other youngsters who are prepared to give more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 So Oscar can play like an absolute shithouse for half of the season and not get slated but Loftus Cheek who has played 2 pointless games all season, (games which he worked had with and without the ball, mind) gets slated publicly in a pointless post season friendly? This isn't "tough love", it's just really bizarre. Dude, no post season friendlies are "pointless" .. every friendly is key for both manager and player. A manager needs to understand his players inside out, how they play, what position is best suited for them, what tactics are the best to use. A player, be it a new signing or a young talent, need to prove that they can fit into a manager's plans! That's what friendlies are used for. Oscar may have had a 1/2 good season for us, but if a plan isn't working.. Mourinho must do what is necessary to change it up. Oscar knows he has to improve to get back into the team, he's had first-team experience to know what to do. RLC on the other hand, is raw. He's 19.. he's just come up from the Under-18. He has no first team experience yet, and if he's showing up with cavalier displays in crucial games where you need to prove yourself, that's where "tough love" is needed to inspire. CFC888 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Oscar is far from untouchable, as his treatment in the second half of the season shows (not starting big games, getting pulled at HT in some). I don't even mind him being public -- imo it just reinforces to Ruben that if he can get praised to the high clouds in a press conference, he can get pulled down just as sharply. Keeps him on his toes. I'm not sure that this should be read as Mourinho somehow "not liking him" - let's face it, he has been given chances and hasn't yet taken them and this is a reminder to keep pushing himself, not take things for granted. I think Mourinho knows exactly what he's doing and is looking for a particular reaction that will completely convince him about Ruben's temperament, because the skill is obvious. A sort of a final frontier, if you will.He's had 2 seasons under Mourinho and got alot more chances than Mata and KDB after bad performances. Mourinho was already replacing them before the season even began (buying Willian, and saying Oscar was his N10). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 So Oscar can play like an absolute shithouse for half of the season and not get slated but Loftus Cheek who has played 2 pointless games all season, (games which he worked had with and without the ball, mind) gets slated publicly in a pointless post season friendly? This isn't "tough love", it's just really bizarre. Oscar is always running even during his bad performances though. Mourinho made it clear here, his problem is not with performance, but attitude.The only Chelsea player that just stands around (sometimes) is Hazard, and that's only because Mourinho has given him that freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 did not a lot of us say the exact thing after the WBA game too?Yeah, but you know, it's Mourinho, he never give youngsters a chance and already found excuse to not play RLC next season and blah, blah, blah... Barbara and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 He hyped Ruben, kept speaking about him, promised him a place next season.. Of course kid got carried away, so now he is trying to stop that. No need for either of that in public. bouletje 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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