Patrick Bamford

[didierforever 7,349]

Call him back from loan. Make him play ahead of torres if etoo is injured.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Steve McClaren on Bamford after Derby beat Charlton earlier today..

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11684/9239426

I would actually give him a fair short at the starting position ahead of Torres and Ba

[herpthederp 122]

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[Shane 2,275]

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Real poachers instinct

[herpthederp 122]

Scored again.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

Might not be good for his career but I wouldn't put it past Mou bringing him in for a home grown.

[The Skipper 20,593]

25 goals this season.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

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[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

I don't know about you, but every time I watch this guy playing, or watch highlights of his game, it reminds me of a young Van Persie in his early days at Arsenal (2005/06).

Left-footed player, same poacher's instincts and the most common thing about these two is the style of their running. I don't know how to describe it, but the way Bamford runs and holds his hands just makes me think of RvP.

Way to go until he hits the jackpot like RVP did, but I wouldn't mind Bamford developing into the same type of player.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I don't know about you, but every time I watch this guy playing, or watch highlights of his game, it reminds me of a young Van Persie in his early days at Arsenal (2005/06).

Left-footed player, same poacher's instincts and the most common thing about these two is the style of their running. I don't know how to describe it, but the way Bamford runs and holds his hands just makes me think of RvP.

Way to go until he hits the jackpot like RVP did, but I wouldn't mind Bamford developing into the same type of player.

I hope he's not like RVP in his development. He didn't "hit the jackpot" until he was 28!

[lionsden 4,689]

I hope he's not like RVP in his development. He didn't "hit the jackpot" until he was 28!

That was due to injuries though, his goal to game ratio all those years were actually very impressive. the main difference between that persie and this one is major luck with injuries.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

That was due to injuries though, his goal to game ratio all those years were actually very impressive. the main difference between that persie and this one is major luck with injuries.

I think last year's RVP is completely different to the one five-six years ago even in style. I remember when he was young he relied on his pace and incredibly powerful left foot. But he was wasteful. Of course he had a pretty good goal to min ratio because he was always Arsenal's second striker and would often come on against smaller teams when the game is already done just like Ba has by far the best min per goal ratio in our team now.

But the RVP from 3 seasons ago till now is one who's had to change his approach because he lost a lot of his pace and even some of the power of his shots. Now he relies on smart movement in and around the box and the fact that he's been the best finisher in the league. Bamford is much more like this kind of RVP than the earlier one, imo.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

Here's another angle. Bamfordinho has potential.

[The only place to be 11,313]

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Shit defending but a very intelligent run and that little burst of pace without going offside....the kid is a natural. I'd back him to score a goal at any level because he's just got that knack of finding space in the box.

Just compare that run he made there for the run that Torres consistently FAILS to make, most recently against Palace when Azpi put the ball in almost exactly the same place.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

It would not kill us to give him a chance as our 3rd striker, saves money and looks like a natural goalscorer, and his english too

[ja1 1,166]

Some quotes from another forum from Derby fans:

"At Derby he has looked lightweight and too easily is muscled off the ball. His general play has improved recently and he does have skill but isn't especially quick.

He knows where the net is though.

I don't think he is anywhere near ready for the Premiership at the moment, at least not as a starter. He needs another season in the Championship beefing himself up and learning a few old-fashioned centre-forward skills while being pushed and shoved around by grizzly defenders."

"I have to concur with *above post* on this one. When I watched him in the Forest game, he looked surprisingly lightweight, and in physical challenges can be easily knocked off the ball. I don't think he's ready for the Prem yet. However, he's got that one thing most managers would kill for in a player: an eye for the goal. He just seems to find it. A single contribution from him can turn a game. Needs to work on his strength, then he'll be formidable. He's a long way from making any Chelsea starting line-up. "

"Agree with *above two posts*. He has some Prem qualities (skill and finishing both excellent) but isn't ready yet. Needs to beef it up a bit first moer than anything.

I dont see him adding anything to Chelsea as yet, maybe in a year or 2."

"To put it bluntly he's too lightweight.easily gets knocked off the ball and not quite ready for the premiership yet"

"He ideally needs more physical stature to continue in the Championship, but has enough about him to be effective in the EPL where the referees tend to be a little more European than those we see in the second tier. He has talent in spades though and I'd like to have seen a bit more of him up top centrally rather than wide in a three, but he happens to be up against a man in form for that role and so plays wide or not at all."

"He's been playing on the right at Derby. He isn't a natural wide player but because Derby play 4-3-3 and he isn't considered strong enough to play on his own centrally, this is a compromise position to enable him to be on the pitch to score goals. Derby have 4 good wide players so he has been playing about 50% of the time, although recently because of injuries he has been playing throughout matches. His eventual position will no doubt be central so he needs to play somewhere where he can get experience in this position."

"Very good player and a great attitude, if you played a 4-4-2 possibly you could have him as a squad player, as a hold the ball up solo attacker maybe not just yet, although we haven't seen him in that position as people have already said, last couple of games he's been given more of a licence to roam and does look more dangerous when central than on the wings, his tracking back, defensive play and reading of the game are a long way off elite Premiership standard probably even Championship standard.

He also loses confidence quite easily and can give away possession through sloppy passes and sloppy dribbling, this could be as a result of having the 5hit kicked out him by more traditional champioship players. I imagine with the players your immoral concentration of wealth buys you, you'd get him more service and be able to pull players out of position better thus giving him more space to make an impact though.

Needs to work on his right foot, getting a few more tricks in the bag (defenders have caught on to letting him cut inside from the right and shoot with the left) and decision making. If you did use him next season I think it would only be as a last 10 minute sub, think he'd develop better on loan somewhere else for half a season and then take stock in January.

Not sure Jose will show patience though."

"As for Bamford, quite good technically but poor decision making and weak."

[ja1 1,166]

Maybe not the completely stellar reviews you might expect - but I reckon this has to do with him playing wide. He is a goal poacher and although he does still get goals playing wide it maybe exposes the flaws in his games more as he gets on the ball more often outside the box. These were written a couple of games before - and since then he's carried on scoring, I'm sure their opinion of him continues to be more positive.

[Tomo 21,733]

I say next season we loan him in the Championship for 6 months then access if the time is right for the step up, a bit like we did this season with L1 to the Championship.

The last thing he needs is to get rushed into a PL loan and spend most off it on the bench.