Kevin de Bruyne

[Fastrobbie 26]

I don't think it's inconceivable to say that KDB is the least talented between him, Hazard, Mata, Oscar and Willian...

I'm a KDB fan and I actually believe he might suprise some people as he hasn't shown enough of what he is capable off. Nevertheless, I'm seriously dissappointed with how he has been playing so far at Chelsea. Not that he has been playing bad, but he's been average at best. It sometimes infuriates me as he the chances he has to prove himself are limited, but then again he probably also needs time to adjust.

The sad thruth is he needs to step up or he'll have to step out eventually. Hopefully he can prove he is worth his place in this team because it would sure make me one proud blue

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

No, he hasn't been awful. He's been fairly average and that isn't good enough for Jose to warrant a string of starts.

I would say awful pretty easily. He has been probably our worst player in 3 of his 4 starts and if not our worst, he's definitely been one of our worst. Not sure how you can consider that average. Which Chelsea player has been worse this season? If you're an offensive player who can't defend and you aren't creating chances or scoring and you aren't a natural winger who creates space for others, what exactly are the positives De Bruyne has brought so far this season? Certainly not his 0 goals and 1 assist in 5 games. Certainly not his defensive work nor his work rate. So, what exactly makes his season so far average?

[Kojo 4,676]

He has been utter dog shite other than the first half of the first game. People look and see "oh well, he made a dangerous pass", he was OK, but for an offensive player to make one or two good offensive plays a game is nothing. A player who is as weak defensively as De Bruyne is needs to be making an offensive impact. Just to show how bad he has been., De Bruyne has started 4 games at Chelsea.

Here are his whoscored rankings on the team ( Despite playing in a position that lends itself to good statistical numbers)

Hull-Second worst among starters although he was taken off earlier than anyone.

ManU-Worst among starters and subs

Swindon-Second worst among starters but only because Van Ginkel went off after 10 minutes

Arsenal-Second worst among starters

So, yes, he's been awful. It doesn't mean he isn't good enough for Chelsea or any other silly overreaction, it just means he doesn't deserve to be playing right now.

Utter dog shite?

Huge exaggeration don't you think?

[JDY 1,290]

According to whoscored Luiz has been our worst player so far this season but in reality he's been solid in the majority of matches except vs. Cardiff. People need to stop treating their ratings like the bible on how to evaluate performances.

On KdB he's been average at best, but to say he's been awful or 'dog shite' is just going too far. Also there's a difference between willingness to track back and actually being good defensively. Hazard, KdB, and Mata have been working very hard when they've played, but they are prolific ball watchers and often lack the awareness to read opposition attacks/runs.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Just confirmed he will be looking at other options if the situation continues, look like it is coming to an end for him.

[Barbara 15,149]

According to whoscored Luiz has been our worst player so far this season but in reality he's been solid in the majority of matches except vs. Cardiff. People need to stop treating their ratings like the bible on how to evaluate performances.

On KdB he's been average at best, but to say he's been awful or 'dog shite' is just going too far. Also there's a difference between willingness to track back and actually being good defensively. Hazard, KdB, and Mata have been working very hard when they've played, but they are prolific ball watchers and often lack the awareness to read opposition attacks/runs.

whoscored is a colossal joke I don't know how people take that site seriously - at least rating wise. I was there the other day to find out how many matches Mata started for us and how many he came as a sub and then I took a glance on the rates. It's disgraceful.

I agree he's been average at best - which is why he's in the position he is in the first place. The chances keep coming - far and apart, I know - and he keeps wasting them. He was our worst player against Arsenal because although he was average, the rest were either good or impressive. So when you're average in a squad where basically all other players are being good, great or impressive, you're simply not enough, even if you aren't that bad. A loan is the best business for him - IF it's in a team where he'll play a lot. The hole he's at the moment at Chelsea looks like a mountain to climb, not because of his quality, but because the other guys are raising the bar.

[ParNolio7 285]

You go on about how we base him on the few minutes he's played for Chelsea, ultimately that is what we are judging the players on, how well they do for Chelsea.

Yes, understandably, but it doesn't make any sense to write him off based on the very few occasions he's had here, let alone judge his talent.

I still believe that if Mou would've kept him in the team after United, given him some confidence, he'd now be one of the favourite players for everybody, shining and being decisive in every match ... But I guess you won't take my word for it will you

[ParNolio7 285]

He has been utter dog shite other than the first half of the first game. People look and see "oh well, he made a dangerous pass", he was OK, but for an offensive player to make one or two good offensive plays a game is nothing. A player who is as weak defensively as De Bruyne is needs to be making an offensive impact. Just to show how bad he has been., De Bruyne has started 4 games at Chelsea.

Here are his whoscored rankings on the team ( Despite playing in a position that lends itself to good statistical numbers)

Hull-Second worst among starters although he was taken off earlier than anyone.

ManU-Worst among starters and subs

Swindon-Second worst among starters but only because Van Ginkel went off after 10 minutes

Arsenal-Second worst among starters

So, yes, he's been awful. It doesn't mean he isn't good enough for Chelsea or any other silly overreaction, it just means he doesn't deserve to be playing right now.

I hope you're writing this nonsense on purpose just to piss us off, if so good one, mate, if not, you know absolutely shit about football.

[OneMoSalah 8,785]

Yes, understandably, but it doesn't make any sense to write him off based on the very few occasions he's had here, let alone judge his talent.

I still believe that if Mou would've kept him in the team after United, given him some confidence, he'd now be one of the favourite players for everybody, shining and being decisive in every match ... But I guess you won't take my word for it will you

I've seen him play before for Belgium, Genk and Werder but I'm not judging his Chelsea career on what hes done for those teams. He played piss poor against United and Swindon imo and was quite average vs Arsenal. He has a lot of work to do.

[ParNolio7 285]

I'm a KDB fan and I actually believe he might suprise some people as he hasn't shown enough of what he is capable off. Nevertheless, I'm seriously dissappointed with how he has been playing so far at Chelsea. Not that he has been playing bad, but he's been average at best. It sometimes infuriates me as he the chances he has to prove himself are limited, but then again he probably also needs time to adjust.

The sad thruth is he needs to step up or he'll have to step out eventually. Hopefully he can prove he is worth his place in this team because it would sure make me one proud blue

Seriously dissappointed with his MOTM performance in his debut match for Chelsea, you mean? Or with being mediocre against United just like the rest of the team? You expected him to stand out already? Be the leader of the team in his second match, against United of all teams? Or disappointed with his appearances in the frikkin league cup after weeks and weeks of Chelsea B and U21 football? You've got to be kidding me. Quickly choose another favourite player man, you're stabbing KDB in the back.

[ParNolio7 285]

He played piss poor against United and Swindon imo and was quite average vs Arsenal. He has a lot of work to do.

Mou should've had his back after the United game. One very good performance against Hull, one bad performance against United. A young kid, full of talent, new to the club, disgrace to drop him like that. He's received the worst of treatments by Mourinho. Some people claim that it will benefit his career one day, but I'm not one of them. Boy's been crushed, utter shame really.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

According to whoscored Luiz has been our worst player so far this season but in reality he's been solid in the majority of matches except vs. Cardiff. People need to stop treating their ratings like the bible on how to evaluate performances.

On KdB he's been average at best, but to say he's been awful or 'dog shite' is just going too far. Also there's a difference between willingness to track back and actually being good defensively. Hazard, KdB, and Mata have been working very hard when they've played, but they are prolific ball watchers and often lack the awareness to read opposition attacks/runs.

No, Luiz has been very poor in the league but he's been quite good in other competitions so overall he's been OK which De Bruyne hasn't been and unlike De Bruyne, Luiz proven what he can do at Chelsea so having a bad few games doesn't mean anything. Nobody is using statistics as a bible, but if a player who plays a position that is very stat-friendly is near the bottom of the team every single game, they've just been bad and I don't even see how you can debate it. The big issue with these sorts of stats is that they tend to reward offensive players. You can be a great reader of the game and a great defensive player but not get great scores so yes, it's hard to judge someone like Ashley Cole statistically because he doesn't get any of the offensive statistics that really add up your score. In other words, defensive players are hurt more by statistical analysis and De Bruyne is a terrible defensive player. (In his 5 games, De Bruyne has 3 tackles, 0 interceptions, has been dribbled by an opponent at least once, and has committed 4 fouls. That's atrocious). Players like De Bruyne should be getting overrated by statistics, not underrated.

De Bruyne has not only been poor defensively, he was benched because of poor effort and poor training which shows a bad attitude. Basically, in every single measure of a player, De Bruyne has been bad this year and has been IMO pretty easily our worst player. He still has a bright future and it may only take one game or two to turn things around, but 1) he has to earn it and he has done the opposite. He doesn't deserve to play just because you want him to. It's not Mourinho that has let De Bruyne down, it's his own poor play 2) people need to stop pretending he has been anything other than poor so far.

[ParNolio7 285]

No, Luiz has been very poor in the league but he's been quite good in other competitions so overall he's been OK which De Bruyne hasn't been and unlike De Bruyne, Luiz proven what he can do at Chelsea so having a bad few games doesn't mean anything. Nobody is using statistics as a bible, but if a player who plays a position that is very stat-friendly is near the bottom of the team every single game, they've just been bad and I don't even see how you can debate it. The big issue with these sorts of stats is that they tend to reward offensive players. You can be a great reader of the game and a great defensive player but not get great scores so yes, it's hard to judge someone like Ashley Cole statistically because he doesn't get any of the offensive statistics that really add up your score. In other words, defensive players are hurt more by statistical analysis and De Bruyne is a terrible defensive player. (In his 5 games, De Bruyne has 3 tackles, 0 interceptions, has been dribbled by an opponent at least once, and has committed 4 fouls. That's atrocious). Players like De Bruyne should be getting overrated by statistics, not underrated.

De Bruyne has not only been poor defensively, he was benched because of poor effort and poor training which shows a bad attitude. Basically, in every single measure of a player, De Bruyne has been bad this year and has been IMO pretty easily our worst player. He still has a bright future and it may only take one game or two to turn things around, but 1) he has to earn it and he has done the opposite. He doesn't deserve to play just because you want him to. It's not Mourinho that has let De Bruyne down, it's his own poor play 2) people need to stop pretending he has been anything other than poor so far.

You really are the kind of supporter that I loathe. A typical Manchester United fan in my opinion. Cocky, arrogant, if a newcomer has a hard time (like Fellaini at Man U) just drop the lad and try another one. You expect every player to be sensational every match regardless of the circumstances. Football players are not robots, clubs are not factories. We work with humans and we give people chances. That's how it should be done. Not only for KDB but the same if Willian, Schürrle, Oscar or Hazard would start to struggle for one or two matches. Players are not machines, they need some confidence to perform at their best. KDB has received zero confidence. Dropped like garbage after his first bad performance (United). His MotM debut against Hull didn't even matter, not to Mourinho and obviously not to you. You take everything for granted. You may be a Chelsea supporter but you have the heart of a mancunian.

[Weckerz 3,781]

You really are the kind of supporter that I loathe. A typical Manchester United fan in my opinion. Cocky, arrogant, if a newcomer has a hard time (like Fellaini at Man U) just drop the lad and try another one. You expect every player to be sensational every match regardless of the circumstances. Football players are not robots, clubs are not factories. We work with humans and we give people chances. That's how it should be done. Not only for KDB but the same if Willian, Schürrle, Oscar or Hazard would start to struggle for one or two matches. Players are not machines, they need some confidence to perform at their best. KDB has received zero confidence. Dropped like garbage after his first bad performance (United). His MotM debut against Hull didn't even matter, not to Mourinho and obviously not to you. You take everything for granted. You may be a Chelsea supporter but you have the heart of a mancunian.

I get that your passionate about KDB but the defending is getting a bit ridiculous now bro. It was harsh from Mou to drop him so early but he hasn't been great in the cameo's he got after.

Out of the 6 Am's there was always gonna be at least one who'd barely play. It's KDB and for the time being it's justified.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

You really are the kind of supporter that I loathe. A typical Manchester United fan in my opinion. Cocky, arrogant, if a newcomer has a hard time (like Fellaini at Man U) just drop the lad and try another one. You expect every player to be sensational every match regardless of the circumstances. Football players are not robots, clubs are not factories. We work with humans and we give people chances. That's how it should be done. Not only for KDB but the same if Willian, Schürrle, Oscar or Hazard would start to struggle for one or two matches. Players are not machines, they need some confidence to perform at their best. KDB has received zero confidence. Dropped like garbage after his first bad performance (United). His MotM debut against Hull didn't even matter, not to Mourinho and obviously not to you. You take everything for granted. You may be a Chelsea supporter but you have the heart of a mancunian.

A typical ManU supporter? I've been a Chelsea supporter since before Roman when winning any trophy was glorious (hint, look at my profile photo) and have never supported any other team . And having my fandom questioned by someone who clearly cares more about one player and their national team more than they do about Chelsea is patently absurd. I don't require De Bruyne do be sensational every match, I don't require him to be anything. Mourinho clearly requires De Bruyne to be better than he has been to get playing time and he's right. If De Bruyne is such a sensitive soul his confidence is shattered because he gets dropped for a few games, he is never going to make it in football. In football, you need to rise to challenges and on top teams, unless you are the level of Messi, you will always face challenges to your playing time. Every young player on a team like Chelsea will have to earn their playing time. Look at Drogba who saw off every other striker Chelsea bought for years.Look a Terry who looked on his way out but is now the team's #1 choice CB. Why? Because they damn well earned it with their play. And it wasn't like he was dropped. Chelsea just have a lot of options and those options were playing better than De Bruyne. De Bruyne got his chance to play his way back into the side and failed to do so. How is that Mourinho's fault? Chelsea is not around to serve De Bruyne's career. We're around to compete and to win and right now, If Schurrle or Willian or anyone has a better chance of helping Chelsea win, then they should play.

[Tomo 21,733]

You really are the kind of supporter that I loathe. A typical Manchester United fan in my opinion. Cocky, arrogant, if a newcomer has a hard time (like Fellaini at Man U) just drop the lad and try another one. You expect every player to be sensational every match regardless of the circumstances. Football players are not robots, clubs are not factories. We work with humans and we give people chances. That's how it should be done. Not only for KDB but the same if Willian, Schürrle, Oscar or Hazard would start to struggle for one or two matches. Players are not machines, they need some confidence to perform at their best. KDB has received zero confidence. Dropped like garbage after his first bad performance (United). His MotM debut against Hull didn't even matter, not to Mourinho and obviously not to you. You take everything for granted. You may be a Chelsea supporter but you have the heart of a mancunian.

You have twisted his words just a little bit.

The competition is so high in the AM places, he knew that before he came back, what do you suggest we do? play him no matter what while players who are in form like Schurrle are kicking their heels in the stands.

I remember our fans (in general, this isn't aimed particularly at you) were whining about players getting picked on reputation under previous managers, especially Carlo, now that's not happening, we moan.

[mnmontero 78]

You really are the kind of supporter that I loathe. A typical Manchester United fan in my opinion. Cocky, arrogant, if a newcomer has a hard time (like Fellaini at Man U) just drop the lad and try another one. You expect every player to be sensational every match regardless of the circumstances. Football players are not robots, clubs are not factories. We work with humans and we give people chances. That's how it should be done. Not only for KDB but the same if Willian, Schürrle, Oscar or Hazard would start to struggle for one or two matches. Players are not machines, they need some confidence to perform at their best. KDB has received zero confidence. Dropped like garbage after his first bad performance (United). His MotM debut against Hull didn't even matter, not to Mourinho and obviously not to you. You take everything for granted. You may be a Chelsea supporter but you have the heart of a mancunian.

I don't get your stance really, he doesn't deserve to start, that is all. Do you go to the training sessions to know if he's doing alright? Is he showing he deserves to be on the team? Mourinho dropped him because he probably deserved to be dropped in an overall point of view. He needs to improve regardless, and when he plays he needs to show it.

And stop stereotyping fans, it's really dumb, all fans are different. Except arsenal fans, fuck them.

[Weckerz 3,781]

If De Bruyne is such a sensitive soul his confidence is shattered because he gets dropped for a few games, he is never going to make it in football.

It's some of the fans making such a fuss, all you read from Kevin in reliable media is that he's working hard on training and that he realises he has to work for his spot here.