Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted November 25, 2013 I think the 1st goal is perfect to describe Cahill lack of overall qualities for a footballer. He tried a short pass, but it was a really embarrassing one, but the WH defender made a silly mistake and we got a penalty.Sometimes I just don't know whether to take you seriously or not given your controversial nature or at least trying to be a controversial fella here...Granted we all know Cahill has his flaws and limitations as a player, every player has theirs, but are you seriously gonna just use that one moment of slightly over-hit or inaccurate pass to sum him up as a player? You talk as though the other players, even the best ones, have never executed a pass wrongly. Shaan, chelseathebest, hjperdeath and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseathebest 150 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I think the 1st goal is perfect to describe Cahill lack of overall qualities for a footballer. He tried a short pass, but it was a really embarrassing one, but the WH defender made a silly mistake and we got a penalty.Everyone can have a bad pass.I actually think that it is more embarassing what Luiz was doing vs Newcastle. He sold possession something like 12 times. In ONE match. He looked like a fucking amateur out there.You can write whatever you want, it's obvious that Gary is playing great and Luiz being on the bench is exactly how it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 He actually is a better forward passer than Mikel ,played some great balls wide on Saturday and one slip over against West Brom should not be continually brought up ,a series of terrible mistakes and lack of concentration like David Luiz has performed deserve to be picked on and indeed dropped as has happened. Cahill was playing very well early season and Luiz luckily got his chance and blew it by making silly mistakes. Hopefully someone has brought Luiz the AtoZ on basic defending ,when he reads it he can become a great player.Relentless The Skipper, Strike and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Actually I've seen Luiz gift the ball to opposition far often than Cahill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cahill is on better form (than Luiz) at the moment, but i can't help but laugh when he described as either safe or solid. He struggles to play the offside trap and is easily conned by the opposition (*cough* Liam Ridgewell *cough*). Atleast the days of calling him the new JT has stopped.People go on about Luiz's mistimed mistakes, but for one of them he makes Cahill will have 5 (maybe more) moments were he fucks up trying to play the offside trap or is spun by an opposition player. ChelseasMessiah, GhanaBoy, DJames and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cahill is on better form (than Luiz) at the moment, but i can't help but laugh when he described as either safe or solid. He struggles to play the offside trap and is easily conned by the opposition (*cough* Liam Ridgewell *cough*). Atleast the days of calling him the new JT has stopped.People go on about Luiz's mistimed mistakes, but for one of them he makes Cahill will have 5 (maybe more) moments were he fucks up trying to play the offside trap or is spun by an opposition player.Nonsesnse. Luiz makes 5 times as many errors as Cahill and a lot of them are playground ,like not blocking the forwards run when the ball is rolling back to the keeper and casually leaving it . He has the class to be a great if he is prepared to listen and learn and not act the idiot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Nonsesnse. Luiz makes 5 times as many errors as Cahill and a lot of them are playground ,like not blocking the forwards run when the ball is rolling back to the keeper and casually leaving it . He has the class to be a great if he is prepared to listen and learn and not act the idiot .Cahill's error's are more subtle which is why they rarely get touched up on, like when he let Darren Bent go and he had that one on one which luckily Cech saved, as an example.They both have their flaws (which is why they don't work together) and at this moment in time Cahill is on better form which is why he is playing, but if both were on the same form (whether that be good or bad) Luiz will in my opinion be the one higher in the pecking order every time because he is better (like this time last year for example, both were on pretty bad form, and Luiz was higher in the order out of the two). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cahill is on better form (than Luiz) at the moment, but i can't help but laugh when he described as either safe or solid. He struggles to play the offside trap and is easily conned by the opposition (*cough* Liam Ridgewell *cough*). Atleast the days of calling him the new JT has stopped.People go on about Luiz's mistimed mistakes, but for one of them he makes Cahill will have 5 (maybe more) moments were he fucks up trying to play the offside trap or is spun by an opposition player.He's an absolute disaster for England as well, I wish Terry hadn't retired. Cahill and Dawson at Spurs are stealing a living as footballers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 He's an absolute disaster for England as well, I wish Terry hadn't retired. Cahill and Dawson at Spurs are stealing a living as footballers.A bit harsh, Cahill is a fine squad player, he is just over-rated for me by pundits, commentator's and supporters in general and will never be a first team regular, if Mourinho decides Luiz isn't good enough, we will sign a new centre half. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Actually I've seen Luiz gift the ball to opposition far often than Cahill.That's probably because Luiz is a ball playing CB, who makes more (risk) forward passes than Cahill. As frustrating it may be sometimes, this move with Luiz doesn't always works but other times, it has worked out just fine for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 A ball playing centre back needs to be a proper centre back before he can be a ball playing centre back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 A ball playing centre back needs to be a proper centre back before he can be a ball playing centre back.*in your opinion* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Luiz is a sad reflection of the sorry state of defending and sharp drop in supply of genuine world class natural defenders today. Hence why comical defending even at the highest level occur with alarming regularity like never before.Baresi and maldini, for e.g, were far more technically gifted than Luiz will ever be yet all the plaudits they received came off the merit of their ability to actually defending bloody well rather than their ability to pick out a team mate, Jesus wept.I'm too old school for this .... Shaan and Phil Driver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 *in your opinion*No that is fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Luiz is a sad reflection of the sorry state of defending and sharp drop in supply of genuine world class natural defenders today. Hence why comical defending even at the highest level occur with alarming regularity like never before.Baresi and maldini, for e.g, were far more technically gifted than Luiz will ever be yet all the plaudits they received came off the merit of their ability to actually defending bloody well rather than their ability to pick out a team mate, Jesus wept.I'm too old school for this .... Luiz till has time to wise up and his attitude where he likes to act the fool and has a laugh needs to change ,when Frank LeBouef frist came to England he had similar faults to Luiz I remember Wimbledon giving him a lesson,but he did listen and learn and became a proper ball playing centre half with the emphasis being on centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I have this imagine of Thiago Silva reading things said about Luiz in England and bursting out in laugheter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Look at this fucking shitehouse stealing a living here. He's got the passing range of a fucking pebble, and defends like Wally, never to be fucking found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Luiz is a sad reflection of the sorry state of defending and sharp drop in supply of genuine world class natural defenders today. Hence why comical defending even at the highest level occur with alarming regularity like never before.Baresi and maldini, for e.g, were far more technically gifted than Luiz will ever be yet all the plaudits they received came off the merit of their ability to actually defending bloody well rather than their ability to pick out a team mate, Jesus wept.I'm too old school for this ....Maldini and Baresi were never technically gifted lol. Just stop please. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Did well him JT and Cech the only players to emerge with credit under that onslaught . They had no protection whatsoever . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Did well him JT and Cech the only players to emerge with credit under that onslaught . They had no protection whatsoever .We complain that we are constantly under pressure, but playing a deep and very slow defense line has nothing to do with that... Perhaps they could/should have helped keep the football a bit longer? ChelseasMessiah and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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