Rapkun 668 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 29/06/2020 at 7:39 PM, Henrique said: Lampard improved in recent games (even before the pandemic). At some point this season it seemed he was more concerned about developing young english players than anything. For example, he deployed Azpi as LB only to accommodate James on the starting XI. That didn't make sense, because Azpi still is a batter RB than James, but Azpi isn't a better LB than Alonso. Not to mention the privileges Mount receive for most part of the season, and even Barkley was given the "penalty taker" role in the beginning of the season. In recent games he dropped most of those things, and he (re)introduced Giroud, Alonso and Pedro into the team. Yesterday against Leicester it was very telling the fact he dropped James, Gilmour and Mount during the half time. I'm also happy he didn't jump into Gilmour hype train and didn't rushed him into the first team. When the squad is full, there is no place for Gilmour on the first team yet. It seems he also realized Pulisic can't be sitting on the bench. Azpi was used at LB because he was not satisfied with any of the left backs at his disposal which is a valid concern. Seeing as Azpi played there before and James (who's a great talent) can offer something going forward the decision was eventually made. Barkley is a actually a very good PK taker. He missed, it happens even to the best. I don't rate him highly but he sure can shoot. Anyone who thinks Mount is playing because of his passport... Honestly, I'm not even gonna bother with this one. I agree with you on his exclusion of Giroud, Alonso and Pedro in the first half of the season. I think he knew he wanted to move them and decided it would be better to have someone else play their minutes if they were leaving anyway. Both Pedro and Giroud ended up remaining past the january window, and with injuries to key players he probably decided there was no valid reason not to give them more game time. As for Pulisic, he recentely admitted he was very close to starting him vs Villa but ultimately decided it might be too early considering he hadn't played for months even prior to the COVID-19 outbreak. He was only benched in the early part of the season beause he was clearly not at his best physically(no rest during the summer) and still needed time to adapt. Lamps has his flaws, i'll give you that but certainly not the ones you mention. Te fact that so many people are agreeing with you is worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 The water breaks and the 5 subs really play to Lampards strengths as a great reader of the game and motivator. He really has improved at being more cautious in his approach to games and grind out results. Still his insistence on Barkley and Mount is worrying. Surely he prefers them because of their work ethic and commitment to his tactics. But he must see that they are bang average players and should have squad roles here at best. kellzfresh and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 i would just like to know which coaches idea was to put azpilicueta on a tall opponent while our tall attacker is guarding the goal line. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted July 1, 2020 Zouma and Tomori together. Jorgi, Kova, Mount midfield. Go back to what was working so well for god sake. Go back to the team that looked so promising and go from there. If we lose top 4 due to growing pains then fuck it, our ultimate goal is to build a side to challenge City and Liverpool and the longer these shithouse selections get rolled out the more regression we make on said ultimate goal. kellzfresh, Milan, Miguelito and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaynChelsea 423 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Trust in Lamps. killer1257 and Alabama 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy 52 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Whats the obsession with Lampard sidelining players out of the blue, Tomori and Jorginho, before Giroud and Alonso. 0007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 My expectations for the season and how i'm assessing Lampard have changed. Before the return i would have not had a negative word to say if we finished anywhere in the top 7 because i assumed we would carry on with the building process and if that came at the expense of top 4 then that's fair enough. However now we've resorted to shit house selections and tactics he has to justify that by getting results, so top 4 and Cup final. DDA and 0007 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Lamps needs to bench Kante asap. But he does not have the balls to do that. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk 0007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 It's no wonder we can't defend at all when Lampard is saying things like this... FUCKING HELL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, whats happening said: i would just like to know which coaches idea was to put azpilicueta on a tall opponent while our tall attacker is guarding the goal line. It would be fine if it was Giroud or Drogba but Tammy isn't very good in the air. I don't think he would have dealt well defensively against Soucek and says a lot that he's zonal marking and not one of the man markers. In my opinion Azpilicueta defended the goal pretty well given the size difference. It was hardly a bullet header and should have been comfortably dealt with by one of Kepa or Tammy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 It's no wonder we can't defend at all when Lampard is saying things like this... FUCKING HELL!I see his point because they were really more physical than us but he could have solved that problem by playing RLC and Giroud from the start. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0007 511 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, Tomo said: Zouma and Tomori together. Jorgi, Kova, Mount midfield. Go back to what was working so well for god sake. Go back to the team that looked so promising and go from there. If we lose top 4 due to growing pains then fuck it, our ultimate goal is to build a side to challenge City and Liverpool and the longer these shithouse selections get rolled out the more regression we make on said ultimate goal. This. The midfield without Kante was doing the job, Kova and Jorgi were running riots through opositions' midfields but Lamps decided to brake their combo and since then we are hit and miss. Tomo and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, 0007 said: This. The midfield without Kante was doing the job, Kova and Jorgi were running riots through opositions' midfields but Lamps decided to brake their combo and since then we are hit and miss. It's happened twice now which makes it even worse. 0007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, killer1257 said: I see his point because they were really more physical than us but he could have solved that problem by playing RLC and Giroud from the start. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk So it was the players who randomly decided who to mark then, like Azpi marking a much taller Soucek while someone like Abraham was guarding the post!? NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: It would be fine if it was Giroud or Drogba but Tammy isn't very good in the air. I don't think he would have dealt well defensively against Soucek and says a lot that he's zonal marking and not one of the man markers. In my opinion Azpilicueta defended the goal pretty well given the size difference. It was hardly a bullet header and should have been comfortably dealt with by one of Kepa or Tammy. he doesnt have to be an excellent header, hes not shooting on a goal, he's just there to head it out of danger, thats all. he's tall, he is capable of that at least i hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, whats happening said: he doesnt have to be an excellent header, hes not shooting on a goal, he's just there to head it out of danger, thats all. he's tall, he is capable of that at least i hope so. That's why he's zonal marking in there. Watching him, I'd worry that he would be ball watching and not track or successfully mark his man. He's played a lot of games this season and fulfilled the same role defending set pieces which to me says Lampard can't trust him to mark and defend man to man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Said it before and will say it again, the defensive issues will be Lampard's downfall. The Chelsea connection and/or patience won't last forever. Atomiswave, kellzfresh and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 So it was the players who randomly decided who to mark then, like Azpi marking a much taller Soucek while someone like Abraham was guarding the post!?Lamps does not do man marking Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Said it before and will say it again, the defensive issues will be Lampard's downfall. The Chelsea connection and/or patience won't last forever. But Rüdiger is a low level defender. I have been saying this since last season. You can't win anything with him, but it is his fault for giving him so many minutes Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Lamps does not do man marking Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Doesn't excuse the marking for West Ham's goal, especially when we had a warning before that with their disallowed goal. 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: But Rüdiger is a low level defender. I have been saying this since last season. You can't win anything with him, but it is his fault for giving him so many minutes Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk He is crap. We get that. But blaming defenders is only valid till a certain point. Defending set piece was a problem for Lampard at Derby and now it is again. His teams have conceded tons of goals and have not kept a lot of clean sheets. Have seen teams with arguably worse defenders defend better as a unit than us. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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