🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Frank Lampard

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Yes it matters.

He might be one of the best CFC players ever, but definitely not the favorite CFC player/hero for some anymore.

On a scale of 100, maybe 10% kept the same feeling for him, 50% still see him as a Chelsea legend and 40% dislike him. We don't know the exact numbers but one thing is for sure, without this stupid decision, not 0.01% of the CFC fans would dislike him.

For me personally, he was my top 2 player with DD prior this move, I had his pic on my avatar on every sports forum. Now he's just an ex Chelsea player I don't like.

I will always remember him in sky blue.

I don't dislike him, and his records will never be beaten nor his legend status revoked.

However I now see him as being below Terry, Cech and Drogba in the "Greatest Ever" rankings. He made his choice. People will always see his last EPL game as him wearing the wrong colour blue.

[zolayes 14,489]

I don't dislike him, and his records will never be beaten nor his legend status revoked.

However I now see him as being below Terry, Cech and Drogba in the "Greatest Ever" rankings. He made his choice. People will always see his last EPL game as him wearing the wrong colour blue.

he is often called a true professional .. pity he didn't copy Zola ,, who gave his word and kept it . THAT is being a TRUE professional

[Madmax 9,219]

Can't get that involved, sorry. Players are players.

lol if players are just players then why accord some the status of a legend? Is 'involvement' only fine so long as it's of the positive kind? This is no ordinary player we're talking about; he's Frank Lampard. Of course there'll be reactions. In fact it's because he's Frank Lampard that there are reactions. Football will always be tribal and things such as these will always polarize opinions, let's not be naive.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

But does it REALLY matter? I don't think so. Sure, some fans won't like him, but most will and he's still the best Chelsea player ever. Not really a big deal tbh.

Of course it matters, and not just in affinities. One possible important consequence could be on any possible future roles at the club. To quote Jose (rephrased as I can't remember exact words): "We thought he was going to have a year in the US and then come back to be a coach or something at the club, now I don't know if he can still be part of the club in the future."

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Lampard is almost identical to Van Persie. Both liars. One of their club's best players as well. But at least Van Persie wasn't a coward.

I would even put ZOLA in front of Lampard.

Just wondering what proof you have that he was a liar?

Even his recent tv interview explained a little of what went on.

If the club do not want a player then as an ex employee any player should be free to ply their trade wherever they want and go with best wishes from all at the club and the support.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

We all thought he was going to play for NYFC and he did say he's going to play for them straight after Chelsea, but he didn't. He turned to City. Our title rivals for the season. He's a liar and no interview is going to change that.

As I said before, I would have respected him more if he told us straight up he is going to City. What he did was embarrassing to the club.

Have you not seen the recent tv documentry on sky after his last match?

He didnt know he was going to City until after he signed an agreement with New York.

Going by what happened at the last match of the season v Sunderland with the handing over of the trophy, Didier Drogba made a great speech and talked about Lampard....the whole North Stand sang his name.

He would be welcomed back for sure

[Muzchap 8,966]

We all thought he was going to play for NYFC and he did say he's going to play for them straight after Chelsea, but he didn't. He turned to City. Our title rivals for the season. He's a liar and no interview is going to change that.

As I said before, I would have respected him more if he told us straight up he is going to City. What he did was embarrassing to the club.

Scoring against us really pissed me off - I was on my honeymoon on a Safari in Africa - when he scored I was so angry!!!

Oh well people make bad decisions - he made his bed

I'm sure over time I will forgive him, as he did so much for the club

[stroey 2,525]

Have you not seen the recent tv documentry on sky after his last match?

He didnt know he was going to City until after he signed an agreement with New York.

Going by what happened at the last match of the season v Sunderland with the handing over of the trophy, Didier Drogba made a great speech and talked about Lampard....the whole North Stand sang his name.

He would be welcomed back for sure

Premier league researched this matter cause they don't allow third party ownerships. He signed directly with ManCity, not Newyork City nor an "agreement" with City group.

That's why he's a liar, what makes it worse is he tries to brainwash people with interviews etc by acting he didn't know anything.

Just be a man and be honest at least.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Lampard is almost identical to Van Persie. Both liars. One of their club's best players as well. But at least Van Persie wasn't a coward.

cow·ard

ˈkou(ə)rd/

noun

1.

a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.

Trying to understand why you think his actions are one of a coward.

As far as I can remember he has made brave choices all his footballing life... such as playing after his mother died and taking that penalty, numerous game saving goals for Chelsea when other lesser willed players might have hidden, moving from West Ham where his family ties were well established etc etc. All far from being the actions of a coward

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Premier league researched this matter cause they don't allow third party ownerships. He signed directly with ManCity, not Newyork City nor an "agreement" with City group.

That's why he's a liar, what makes it worse is he tries to brainwash people with interviews etc by acting he didn't know anything.

Just be a man and be honest at least.

You need to get facts right....he had a pre agreement with NYC and the MLS.

At that time he DID NOT know that Man City were going to ask him to play for them

[stroey 2,525]

You need to get facts right....he had a pre agreement with NYC and the MLS.

At that time he DID NOT know that Man City were going to ask him to play for them

Do you have inside info then about that pre-contract? It's not even important, because it was him who said yes to ManCity. It was him who agreed to play for our biggest rivals of this season, to beat us. You pretend like NY City put a sneaky clause into the contract to play for Mancity, no he decided to play for Mancity.

This guy has an IQ of 140, do you really think he didn't know what he was doing?

He knew what he was doing, he said he signed with New york City and then the chance came to train and play with Mancity. But when Premier league were researching the third party ownership thing, it was published that he signed with Mancity, from the beginning!

He also EXTENDED his stay at City, why? To gain fitness for the MLS season, nonsense.

He wanted to win the EPL with City so badly, to beat US Chelsea to the title.

He won City around 7 points on his own, 3 gained by that goal against us.

So let me ask you, if we finished second behind City with 1-2 points. What would you think of Lampard?

What would happen if we didn't win the EPL this season? He knew it, Jose probably sacked and Chelsea had to start all over again. But nothing is more important than his own ego.

Just because we were too strong doesn't mean he wasn't wrong. For me it's the same.

In Dutch we say "trust comes by foot and leaves on a horse". That's saying building trust you need time, but to lose it you just need one action, and this was his action.

He lied against us, set up a show in New york for the Newyork fans for marketing reasons. He tried to keep his face and reputation, a real man is at least honest and say "hey I want to play one more year in England, so I go to City."

A real man would not pretend it was a suprise to play for Mancity while he signed with them from the beginning!

He's a smart guy, using the media, saying indirectly Chelsea were wrong to let him go. Putting the blame on Chelsea, while it's him being the liar.

His records and trophies are in the books, but he damaged his legacy. There would be 0,0 discussions about his legendary status if he didn't move to City.

The case with Cech is different, he is still a top 5 GK in the world in his prime. He sat on the bench for a year to help us to win trophies, while he had 2 windows to leave.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Lampard is almost identical to Van Persie. Both liars. One of their club's best players as well. But at least Van Persie wasn't a coward.

I would even put ZOLA in front of Lampard.

There are other heroes from previous generations, of course, but of the Abramovich era onwards, I firmly believe Terry, Drogba and Cech will firmly hold a monopoly on the 1, 2, 3 positions unless Hazard stays here for ten years.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Do you have inside info then about that pre-contract? It's not even important, because it was him who said yes to ManCity. It was him who agreed to play for our biggest rivals of this season, to beat us. You pretend like NY City put a sneaky clause into the contract to play for Mancity, no he decided to play for Mancity.

This guy has an IQ of 140, do you really think he didn't know what he was doing?

He knew what he was doing, he said he signed with New york City and then the chance came to train and play with Mancity. But when Premier league were researching the third party ownership thing, it was published that he signed with Mancity, from the beginning!

He also EXTENDED his stay at City, why? To gain fitness for the MLS season, nonsense.

He wanted to win the EPL with City so badly, to beat US Chelsea to the title.

He won City around 7 points on his own, 3 gained by that goal against us.

So let me ask you, if we finished second behind City with 1-2 points. What would you think of Lampard?

What would happen if we didn't win the EPL this season? He knew it, Jose probably sacked and Chelsea had to start all over again. But nothing is more important than his own ego.

Just because we were too strong doesn't mean he wasn't wrong. For me it's the same.

In Dutch we say "trust comes by foot and leaves on a horse". That's saying building trust you need time, but to lose it you just need one action, and this was his action.

He lied against us, set up a show in New york for the Newyork fans for marketing reasons. He tried to keep his face and reputation, a real man is at least honest and say "hey I want to play one more year in England, so I go to City."

A real man would not pretend it was a suprise to play for Mancity while he signed with them from the beginning!

He's a smart guy, using the media, saying indirectly Chelsea were wrong to let him go. Putting the blame on Chelsea, while it's him being the liar.

His records and trophies are in the books, but he damaged his legacy. There would be 0,0 discussions about his legendary status if he didn't move to City.

The case with Cech is different, he is still a top 5 GK in the world in his prime. He sat on the bench for a year to help us to win trophies, while he had 2 windows to leave.

What a load of over the top drama queen hissy fit statements.

So, now it doesnt matter that you agree he had a pre agreement with the NYC franchise. We have to believe that because thats what we have been told unless its you and the other drama queens are the ones with inside information or were actually in New York witnessing all the talks that went on.

Personally, once a player has left our club ( in this case he was told after the last home game v Norwich by Jose that the club were not renewing his contract and letting him go), as a supporter I wish them all the best.

So what if he ended up playing for another PL team......he was a free agent and we had no rights to determine what he did.

Cannot understand why so called proper football supporters get their nappies all wet when a player moves from one club to another....rivals or not. Happens all the time....especially in other big European leagues.

If Lampard had fired City to the title with loads of brilliant performances and goals....then who are the mugs? I would say the Chelsea board, not him, or us as we have to go on what they believe is right and in this case over the course of the season, they have been proven right

[Z4YN 20]

Lampard is a former Chelsea Player and will be remembered as a City Player. I don't want him anywhere near the Bridge, wouldn't bother me if he is hit by a car or something. Screw him.

[stroey 2,525]

What a load of over the top drama queen hissy fit statements.

So, now it doesnt matter that you agree he had a pre agreement with the NYC franchise. We have to believe that because thats what we have been told unless its you and the other drama queens are the ones with inside information or were actually in New York witnessing all the talks that went on.

Personally, once a player has left our club ( in this case he was told after the last home game v Norwich by Jose that the club were not renewing his contract and letting him go), as a supporter I wish them all the best.

So what if he ended up playing for another PL team......he was a free agent and we had no rights to determine what he did.

Cannot understand why so called proper football supporters get their nappies all wet when a player moves from one club to another....rivals or not. Happens all the time....especially in other big European leagues.

If Lampard had fired City to the title with loads of brilliant performances and goals....then who are the mugs? I would say the Chelsea board, not him, or us as we have to go on what they believe is right and in this case over the course of the season, they have been proven right

It does not matter cause he played a full season here in England. Pre-agreement for what then? 2016 or the last games of 2015?

The moment when you need to show loyalty is when you are a free man without obligations. Chelsea gave him so much, he knew he carried the club's image on him. He knew CFC supporters absolutely adored him and saw him as a legend. But he decided to do this, damaging the club, yes now some people will call him a EPL legend instead of CFC legend and hurting the supporters.

Jose also said "love stories ended when he decided to play for City"

Football is nothing without the supporters, they travel to matches spending thousand of dollars a year. Fans abroad stay up late or wake up early to watch Chelsea. Why? Because of the emotions and passion for the club, football without these emotions could be quite boring. And that's why people are so affected by moves like this one of Lampard.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Lampard is a former Chelsea Player and will be remembered as a City Player. I don't want him anywhere near the Bridge, wouldn't bother me if he is hit by a car or something. Screw him.

What a nasty vindictive thing to say.

Fortunately, the majority of the thousands that go to the Bridge will disagree with you as proven when they were singing his name during the last match v Sunderland and afterwards when Drogba was speaking about him to the support

[Rhino's Skin 972]

It does not matter cause he played a full season here in England. Pre-agreement for what then? 2016 or the last games of 2015?

The moment when you need to show loyalty is when you are a free man without obligations. Chelsea gave him so much, he knew he carried the club's image on him. He knew CFC supporters absolutely adored him and saw him as a legend. But he decided to do this, damaging the club, yes now some people will call him a EPL legend instead of CFC legend and hurting the supporters.

Jose also said "love stories ended when he decided to play for City"

Football is nothing without the supporters, they travel to matches spending thousand of dollars a year. Fans abroad stay up late or wake up early to watch Chelsea. Why? Because of the emotions and passion for the club, football without these emotions could be quite boring. And that's why people are so affected by moves like this one of Lampard.

So what....... he was free to do what the hell he wanted. No ifs and buts......just free as the club had let him go.

Most supporters are chilled about it but its the minority who seem to have got their knickers in a twist about the whole charade and shouting the loudest making more of the charade than what it actually was.

And that was no contract here, he left, free to play anywhere or do what the hell he wants. Thats it..no more...no less...simple.

Happens all the time when players...even legends leave.

The minority just need to chill.......will they boo and jeer if he appears at the Bridge doing commentary or halftime walk round?

Will they fark

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Just wondering what proof you have that he was a liar?

Even his recent tv interview explained a little of what went on.

If the club do not want a player then as an ex employee any player should be free to ply their trade wherever they want and go with best wishes from all at the club and the support.

Are you kidding?

Here is Frank Lampard's first press conference as "a New York player" blatantly lying about signing with them when he still to this day has not done so, and innocently pretending that he does not know where he will train to keep fitness when he had already signed a deal to join and play with City. He lied even more saying that he can't wait to start playing for New York on the start of their season when he knew fully well and was working towards extending his contract with City well beyond that point.

[stroey 2,525]

So what....... he was free to do what the hell he wanted. No ifs and buts......just free as the club had let him go.

Most supporters are chilled about it but its the minority who seem to have got their knickers in a twist about the whole charade and shouting the loudest making more of the charade than what it actually was.

And that was no contract here, he left, free to play anywhere or do what the hell he wants. Thats it..no more...no less...simple.

Happens all the time when players...even legends leave.

The minority just need to chill.......will they boo and jeer if he appears at the Bridge doing commentary or halftime walk round?

Will they fark

I really wonder what supporters will think when Totti leaves Roma as a free agent, then plays for Lazio on loan.

Or Gerrard going on loan to Everton/United to gain fitness.

Or if Raul joined Barcelona to gain fitness.

Legends supposed to represent the club, even if they are released. You have some moral responsibilities like not joining the direct rivals.

If you don't think so, we should finish this discussion here.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Are you kidding?

Here is Frank Lampard's first press conference as "a New York player" blatantly lying about signing with them when he still to this day has not done so, and innocently pretending that he does not know where he will train to keep fitness when he had already signed a deal to join and play with City. He lied even more saying that he can't wait to start playing for New York on the start of their season when he knew fully well and was working towards extending his contract with City well beyond that point.

He signed a pre agreement.....nothing wrong with that.

You have absolutely no proof whatsoever that in his mind he knew he was going to Man City before he signed his agreement with NYC.

After the newspaer statements and sky interviews there hasnt been a report by any journo's saying he was lying and you would have thought especially after last sky documentry they would have picked him up on it if that were the case.

But at the end of the day...SO FARKING WHAT.

He had every right to do what he wanted and the majority of the support still SUPPORT him