Strike 7,486 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I like your overall idea, but have some issues with the figures mentioned. Benat has a release clause of around £16m, and the Betis chairman said he will not leave for less. Even if we get Betis to come off that release clause, he's still going to be well over the figure you mentioned. We offered £17m for Schurrle last summer and were rejected. We would probably need to increase the offer by considerably more than a million, with Leverkusen rumored to want in the £25-£30m range, to get the deal done. Cavani is definitely going to cost more than £30m, or at least he should given current market values. Also, Yossi is out of contract June 30 of this year, so he'll leave on a free. However, we'll have his £70k per week wages off the books. I think the Nando sum mentioned is reasonable. His wages are not, and would prove to be the biggest obstacle to any move away from SW6. However, I get the feeling that there are still some powers in the football world that inexplicably believe that Torres can regain some semblance of his former self. Strange, because it seems even Roman is willing to cut his losses on the Spaniard.about Benat, his contract runs out in 2014 And i think Betis maybe looking to sell him for less. maybe 10-12 mil..we should take a look at players whose contract runs out in 2014 or 2015. Benat Lewandowski Moutinho Capoue Gundogan...lot of quality options to pursue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 wouldn't be a bad summer would it? we'd have 4 strikers in the squad - Cavani Ba Lukaku SchurrleWhy would we need four options up front when we play with only one front man? And if we are going to sign Cavani or anyone of his ilk, then Lukaku's definitely going on another loan. Can't see him staying here and not being played frequently. It's a choice, a gamble.Do we keep Lukaku and allow him to develop into one of the most fearsome strikers in the world? Or do we get a proven world class talent in Cavani who's likely to thrive here, and let him develop somewhere else? You also say you want an out and out winger and then list Schurrle who's more Sturridge (striker-cum-winger) than a direct threat like Victor Moses for example... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 A Regista , an out and out winger, a strikerIns :-Benat (£8m) Schurrle (18m) Cavani (£30m)Total:- £56mLoan Returns - Courtois, de Bruyne, chalobah, lukaku,Outs:- Lampard free, Malouda free, Torres £10m Benayoun £4 Essien £5mTotal Recovered :- 20mwouldn't be a bad summer would it? we'd have 4 strikers in the squad - Cavani Ba Lukaku SchurrleA Regista , an out and out winger, a strikerIns :-Benat (£8m) Schurrle (18m) Cavani (£30m)Total:- £56mLoan Returns - Courtois, de Bruyne, chalobah, lukaku,Outs:- Lampard free, Malouda free, Torres £10m Benayoun £4 Essien £5mTotal Recovered :- 20mwouldn't be a bad summer would it? we'd have 4 strikers in the squad - Cavani Ba Lukaku SchurrleMore than Schurrle , i would want to see Dzeko or Lewandoski here. Schurlre will be one of the many players like we have today, not saying he isn't good enough. To be honest , some of the Leverkusen matches that i have seen, it has always been Stefan Keislling playing up front and Schurrle cutting inside from the wing and we have that kid of players in our team. Can Schurrle play through the middle? I haven't seen him play that much to make a conclusion,so an out an out forward like Dzeko or Lewandoski is what this team needs IMO. The one thing that has hurt me this season is the midfield. I would Moutinho and Benat in a heartbeat. Midfield is what controls the game and we have a very very weak one this season. Also i am pretty sure we are offloading our GKs as well, aren't we? I hope we make a bid for Julio Cesar if QPR goes down. Won't make a big fuss of sitting in bench considering he will have to play in the championship and is a quality back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,486 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Why would we need four options up front when we play with only one front man? And if we are going to sign Cavani or anyone of his ilk, then Lukaku's definitely going on another loan. Can't see him staying here and not being played frequently. It's a choice, a gamble.Do we keep Lukaku and allow him to develop into one of the most fearsome strikers in the world? Or do we get a proven world class talent in Cavani who's likely to thrive here, and let him develop somewhere else? You also say you want an out and out winger and then list Schurrle who's more Sturridge (striker-cum-winger) than a direct threat like Victor Moses for example...schurrle part edited. brain-freeze there. i typed in "out and out winger" but couldn't think of a viable player. then settled for Schurrle to add depth and variation to our AM's. about the strikers .even if we play one striker, 4 strikers are probably necessary. city and united have stock options up front this season while we have zip with Torres. ofcourse lukaku or Ba will be like chicharito, not playing frequently but the consequences of not having options up front is greater. Also it gives us further options of a 4-4-2 while throwing the kitchen sink.As much as Lukaku has been a beast this season, i think he still has rough edges in his game. a proven striker makes a big difference as he can win games for the club even if the midfield and backline is utter wank(United this season) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,486 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 More than Schurrle , i would want to see Dzeko or Lewandoski here. Schurlre will be one of the many players like we have today, not saying he isn't good enough. To be honest , some of the Leverkusen matches that i have seen, it has always been Stefan Keislling playing up front and Schurrle cutting inside from the wing and we have that kid of players in our team. Can Schurrle play through the middle? I haven't seen him play that much to make a conclusion,so an out an out forward like Dzeko or Lewandoski is what this team needs IMO. The one thing that has hurt me this season is the midfield. I would Moutinho and Benat in a heartbeat. Midfield is what controls the game and we have a very very weak one this season. Also i am pretty sure we are offloading our GKs as well, aren't we? I hope we make a bid for Julio Cesar if QPR goes down. Won't make a big fuss of sitting in bench considering he will have to play in the championship and is a quality back up.a backup goalkeeper is needed if Courtois goes on loan again. wouldn't mind someone like Sorensen or better. maybe a Szczesny like signing from Polish/Belgian/Scandinavian league will do. its sad how the rest of the league has quality backup and we have hilario and trollbullas for the midfield, i think with Lamps leaving, they will strengthen the pivot. just hope its not a Fellaini. Benat and Moutinho are the best options. both have current contracts which expire in 1-2 years and we can force the clubs to cash inLewandowski and Dzeko - Don't think they'll come here. city won't sell their topscorer to a direct rival and we have competition for Lewa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 about the strikers .even if we play one striker, 4 strikers are probably necessary. city and united have stock options up front this season while we have zip with Torres. ofcourse lukaku or Ba will be like chicharito, not playing frequently but the consequences of not having options up front is greater.United and City also play two strikers at the same time. We do not.Also it gives us further options of a 4-4-2 while throwing the kitchen sink. As much as Lukaku has been a beast this season, i think he still has rough edges in his game. a proven striker makes a big difference as he can win games for the club even if the midfield and backline is utter wank(United this season) The club are heading that way, our squad isn't designed to implement a 4-4-2 formation. Yes Lukaku still has a few rough edges to his game but he's more than good enough to lead the line at a PL club, as he's shown at West Brom so far. Why would you keep a talent like that on the bench and let him play the Chicharito role? His potential ceiling is far higher than that. Just to point out that Drogba too was still quite raw when he came to the PL, but that didn't stop us from winning the title back in 2005 and 2006. I think Lukaku has shown enough that he deserves a big shot here at CFC. Mufassir08 and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 about Benat, his contract runs out in 2014 And i think Betis maybe looking to sell him for less. maybe 10-12 mil..we should take a look at players whose contract runs out in 2014 or 2015. Benat Lewandowski Moutinho Capoue Gundogan...lot of quality options to pursueIndeed. Should be some good deals to be had in our areas of need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,486 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 United and City also play two strikers at the same time. We do not.The club are heading that way, our squad isn't designed to implement a 4-4-2 formation. Yes Lukaku still has a few rough edges to his game but he's more than good enough to lead the line at a PL club, as he's shown at West Brom so far. Why would you keep a talent like that on the bench and let him play the Chicharito role? His potential ceiling is far higher than that. Just to point out that Drogba too was still quite raw when he came to the PL, but that didn't stop us from winning the title back in 2005 and 2006. I think Lukaku has shown enough that he deserves a big shot here at CFC.i think relying on Lukaku for next season is a risky ploy. his first touch isn't great and parts of his game aren't fully developed. he is willing and powerful but going into the season with Ba and Lukaku leaves us short of optionswould love to have atleast 1 more senior striker.Ba, Lukaku, Newsigning and a converted winger as 4th choice if needed. 3 senior strikers are necessary. look at the team this season. tired as hell playing 2 games a weekall this depends on the manager ultimately but a proven striker would go a long way into hiding the core problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,486 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 United and City also play two strikers at the same time. We do not.The club are heading that way, our squad isn't designed to implement a 4-4-2 formation. Yes Lukaku still has a few rough edges to his game but he's more than good enough to lead the line at a PL club, as he's shown at West Brom so far. Why would you keep a talent like that on the bench and let him play the Chicharito role? His potential ceiling is far higher than that. what would you suggest? go with Lukaku Ba and possibly another backup option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 what would you suggest? go with Lukaku Ba and possibly another backup option?Exactly that. 3 senior strikers as you said is what the club should be looking at... Ideally though we should've kept Sturridge and have him vying for that striker spot between Lukaku and Ba whilst also providing extra cover as an inside forward in the three behind the striker. He's gone now though so a reasonable third option will be suitable, yes. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 La fondre as 3rd choice striker?Ba,lukaku and la fondre looks OK to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 La fondre as 3rd choice striker?Ba,lukaku and la fondre looks OK to me.Buy any player who does well against us. Should buy hernandez as well. I am not sure la fondre would be a good for for us tbh. But we would need a cheap 3rd choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Buy any player who does well against us. Should buy hernandez as well.I am not sure la fondre would be a good for for us tbh. But we would need a cheap 3rd choice.He has been very good for reading and is a good finisher.He would be cheap,english,would be happy as 3rd choice and if god forbid ba and lukaku get injured then he would still be good enough to lead the line.Dont think there are a whole lot of options for the 3rd choice striker position who also would not demand a lot of playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Yes cause man u will sell chicarito right?...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Yes cause man u will sell chicarito right?......I was being sarcastic because he always performs well against us. I don't want him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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