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8 hours ago, Vesper said:

I would take Gabriel Jesus in a heartbeat

As would I. He hasnt played for City as regularly as he would have wanted but he has tenacity and really good instincts in the box. He is quite resillient as well for a smaller player. City would never sell him to us though.

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9 hours ago, Vesper said:

I would take Gabriel Jesus in a heartbeat

I get why you say that but I hope the board don't think like this. City are doing as Liverpool have done. Identify the best talent and get them. That's what we should be doing imo. Not looking to see who will be on the scrap heap once city sign the next super star. Let's aim high

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31 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said:

I get why you say that but I hope the board don't think like this. City are doing as Liverpool have done. Identify the best talent and get them. That's what we should be doing imo. Not looking to see who will be on the scrap heap once city sign the next super star. Let's aim high

Would you say the same about Cesc or Makelele back in the day? Great teams sell great players at some point too. Gabriel Jesus has got huge potential, hes only 22 and has scored 55 goals for City in 120 games where he has been in and out of the team. Not bad for someone who had never played in Europe prior to that move. Also has 18 goals in 39 games for Brazil. Very good strikerate at international level. He just needs to play every week, hes shown he is capable at City but Aguero is Aguero and Pep rarely plays 2 CFs so he can get 3 men in MF. 

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39 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I don't believe Jesus is in the top quality bracket. I'm on record as having said I don't believe he will succeed Aguero when the Argentine leaves. I think City will be looking for a better alternative.

31 goals, 12 assists in his last 3600 minutes of play. 

55 and 22 in his last roughly 6800 (basically a full season and a half to 2/3rds)

Not quite to Aguero numbers (68 and 19 in his last 6800 minutes)

But still not shabby.

And he is only 22. Aguero was not scoring like that at 22.

 

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28 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Would you say the same about Cesc or Makelele back in the day? Great teams sell great players at some point too. Gabriel Jesus has got huge potential, hes only 22 and has scored 55 goals for City in 120 games where he has been in and out of the team. Not bad for someone who had never played in Europe prior to that move. Also has 18 goals in 39 games for Brazil. Very good strikerate at international level. He just needs to play every week, hes shown he is capable at City but Aguero is Aguero and Pep rarely plays 2 CFs so he can get 3 men in MF. 

Yeah I suppose so but they were hardly in the same bracket/calibre of Jesus. Cesc and especially Maka were top drawer. Think Jesus has still to reach that level personally

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

31 goals, 12 assists in his last 3600 minutes of play. 

55 and 22 in his last roughly 6800 (basically a full season and a half to 2/3rds)

Not quite to Aguero numbers (68 and 19 in his last 6800 minutes)

But still not shabby.

And he is only 22. Aguero was not scoring like that at 22.

 

I think you two differ in terms of how you judge a player. OhforAGreavsie looks at mainly his first touch, passing, shooting, close control etc and you look at mainly his record like you look at companies' balance sheet or income statement. I don't mean that you don't care about the player's technique or he doesn't care about goal records it just something I noticed when you two talk about players.

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25 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

 

I think you two differ in terms of how you judge a player. OhforAGreavsie looks at mainly his first touch, passing, shooting, close control etc and you look at mainly his record like you look at companies' balance sheet or income statement. I don't mean that you don't care about the player's technique or he doesn't care about goal records it just something I noticed when you two talk about players.

goals matter

he scores a lot of them

in the EPL and all comps

some is down to Pep's system

but he does score at rates far above other targets we are looking at

and I did not mention cost

I have no clue what would be his price

probably above what we will be willing to pay

technique-wise I see a lot of skill there with him as well

I highly doubt shitty would sell to us anyway, they will not strengthen a prime opponent

so the entire discussion if probably moot

 

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