BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Reus is the better player yeah, but did you watch us vs Newcastle? We weren't missing a world class RW, we were missing a competent back up for Matic, and Moutinho is that and more!We were also average in attack and even worse against sunland because they parked the bus and here Reus would suit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 We were also average in attack and even worse against sunland because they parked the bus and here Reus would suit more.From what I saw our major issue was having no cover for the back 4. Having a solid defence allows you to go forward much more confidently and with the ball on your own terms. We were getting owned in midfield and needed to see more of the ball, that's what Matic gives us and Mikel is a hindrance more than a help, stupidly diving into challenges all over the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 From what I saw our major issue was having no cover for the back 4. Having a solid defence allows you to go forward much more confidently and with the ball on your own terms. We were getting owned in midfield and needed to see more of the ball, that's what Matic gives us and Mikel is a hindrance more than a help, stupidly diving into challenges all over the shop. But Matic played against sunderland and we still couldnt break them. It was partly fatigue, but still. It was attack that failed, not defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 But Matic played against sunderland and we still couldnt break them. It was partly fatigue, but still. It was attack that failed, not defense.If we'd kept a clean sheet (like we did against Sunderland) we would have won the game. Defence is the most important part of the game, if you don't concede then you don't lose. A draw against Newcastle would've been bearable, but a loss is not on.We lost because we conceded twice, and we conceded twice due to Cahill having an epic brain fart and the lack of cover for our back 4 which allowed their good players to run at our back 4, which is never going to end well.We need both Reus/a top RW and a backup for Matic, but for the title it is more vital that we get the backup for Matic first. The Mak, zolayes and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 in the toon game Cahill was at fault BUT our attack misfired and the officials were KRAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Reus is the better player yeah, but did you watch us vs Newcastle? We weren't missing a world class RW, we were missing a competent back up for Matic, and Moutinho is that and more!We would have won with Reus. [emoji55] [emoji55] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Reus is the better player yeah, but did you watch us vs Newcastle? We weren't missing a world class RW, we were missing a competent back up for Matic, and Moutinho is that and more!Moutinho isn't a DM. He's always been a DLP/B2B, and now he's playing further up the pitch at Monaco. Plus, Aké is good enough to be the back-up DM. The Skipper and Amblève. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Is he good enough to be the Cesc back up?I don't know, haven't seen him that much. But I doubt it. Only wrote that line because others were discussing about him in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Moutinho isn't a DM. He's always been a DLP/B2B, and now he's playing further up the pitch at Monaco.Plus, Aké is good enough to be the back-up DM.Ummm, I think you're wrong there about him not being a DM. In the times i've watched him (mostly during his time at Porto admittedly) he's split his time between playing like a DM and playing like a DLP CM. And while I think he is better as a DLP, he definitely can play DM and has done so before to a very good standard.We can only play 7 men on our bench and we need back up for numerous positions from each player, so Moutinho could theoretically replace either one of Matic or Fabregas as he can play both styles without us losing that much in terms of quality. It's why Essien was such a good player, could play in so many positions on the pitch to such a high standard that he became one of our most important players.I think Ake could be good enough to be our back up DM too, but until he's given a proper chance there it's hard to know. You can't say he is on the back of the meagre minutes we've seen this season yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 We would have won with Reus. [emoji55] [emoji55]I honestly don't think so, we might have drawn but not won.I don't think we had enough of the ball in attacking areas to be able to give it to him to do his magic. Reus is at his best running at pace at defenders, he wouldn't have had that many opportunities without us winning the ball back in their midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 We dropped points because we have no Plan BThis has been a constant problem for years and is a massive limitation of the 4-3-2-1 formation We need width, Hazard needs to stay wide and Wllian needs to stay wide, both AZPI and Iva need to overlap and pull defenders apart.We don't have that and it's frustrating as fuck to see us trying to play through the middle all of the time. I would actually say we need two wingers that are happy to play 15-20 games a season, as well as a backup for Matic.Shirley is in a horrible patch of form and doesn't look like the answer, same with Salah.We do need a Plan B though - so hope Jose is working on this... petre.ispirescu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Ummm, I think you're wrong there about him not being a DM. In the times i've watched him (mostly during his time at Porto admittedly) he's split his time between playing like a DM and playing like a DLP CM. And while I think he is better as a DLP, he definitely can play DM and has done so before to a very good standard.We can only play 7 men on our bench and we need back up for numerous positions from each player, so Moutinho could theoretically replace either one of Matic or Fabregas as he can play both styles without us losing that much in terms of quality. It's why Essien was such a good player, could play in so many positions on the pitch to such a high standard that he became one of our most important players.I think Ake could be good enough to be our back up DM too, but until he's given a proper chance there it's hard to know. You can't say he is on the back of the meagre minutes we've seen this season yet.Ummm... He has been deployed in the DM role without success. I watched him since he made his first appearances for Sporting, his cameos as DM were nowhere near his usual standard... Veloso was the DM. Then at Porto Fernando was the DM. In the national team Veloso/William/Tiago (altough I prefer him a little further forward). Now at Monaco he plays in front of Kondogbia and Toulalan. Well I think he his good enough already. Plus he can play as a LB, DM or CB... Great bench option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Team needs more Naingogglan TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Team needs more Naingogglanlol not at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Team needs more Naingogglanlol not at allTop player, unrealistic transfer. He only just signed for Roma and it's unlikely he'd want to come here to sit on the bench, and if we're going to switch formation and have a 3rd CM then there are far better/cheaper targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Next season I'd be looking at signing A CB, A ST to replace Drogba and Reus. We don't need anything else IMO - I'd rather have the likes of Boga, RLC, Ake, Baker etc. develop - truly think they can fill in enough. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Next season I'd be looking at signing A CB, A ST to replace Drogba and Reus. We don't need anything else IMO - I'd rather have the likes of Boga, RLC, Ake, Baker etc. develop - truly think they can fill in enough. DD's aura cant be replaced!!! if DD does indeed retire, remy should be no. 2 and bamford is more than capable for the 3rd striker position.i dont think we need to spend 10-15 mil on a 3rd striker.CB will be subject to if JT retires. just cant see us having JT, GC, new CB, zouma/kalas/omerou.reus would be a fabulous signing without a doubt!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Next season I'd be looking at signing A CB, A ST to replace Drogba and Reus. We don't need anything else IMO - I'd rather have the likes of Boga, RLC, Ake, Baker etc. develop - truly think they can fill in enough. I'd like a CB, but I really want Zouma or Christensen to make it here. if we get a cb maybe just a short term solution like..idk.Also, just Reus would do it for me, we have Bamford next season with Costa-Remy. Not bad, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
special Eden 78 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 We MUST sign Varane! He is for sure one of the 10 best CD, and Varane is just 21. We can't rely on Zouma and Christensen yet, that would be a huge gamble in my eyes! And if we gonna get a short term solution he would cost the same as him.Reus seems to be RM bound. Splash the cash on Pogba and push Cesc forward. Let Eden, Oscar, Willian, Schurrle and Cesc rotate. Maybe get Talisca as 2/3 striker and he can play right wing.-Varane, Pogba and Talisca in would be a dream! World class and so YOUNG! And of course we need a cheap HG keeper(maybe Blackman in).-Salah, Cech and Drogba(coach) out. And some of our loan players like: Kakuta, Piazon, Bertrand, Chalobah, Davila, Marin, Romeu, Moses didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 We MUST sign Varane! He is for sure one of the 10 best CD, and Varane is just 21. We can't rely on Zouma and Christensen yet, that would be a huge gamble in my eyes! And if we gonna get a short term solution he would cost the same as him.Reus seems to be RM bound. Splash the cash on Pogba and push Cesc forward. Let Eden, Oscar, Willian, Schurrle and Cesc rotate. Maybe get Talisca as 2/3 striker and he can play right wing.-Varane, Pogba and Talisca in would be a dream! World class and so YOUNG! And of course we need a cheap HG keeper(maybe Blackman in).-Salah, Cech and Drogba(coach) out. And some of our loan players like: Kakuta, Piazon, Bertrand, Chalobah, Davila, Marin, Romeu, Mosesthat sounds like a plan - on fifa.Honestly I agree those would be some great moves, but I don't think we will sign anyone, cos neither club has the need to sell which would make the bargaining take ages and those three will easily cost 100m+ We simply can't afford this shit.Also I don't think we should all offload those fringe players yet. Most of them will still improve and we will make more money on them when we sell them on better form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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