LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Now we all know Suárez has been found guilty of racially insulting Evra a month or so back. However what I have created this thread for relates to this:http://bcove.me/g0eyq3fwLast night, Liverpool players & Dalglish wore t-shirt bore with Suárez's name and number on the back, in a show of support. What is Suárez guilty of? He used a term which is actually accepted in Uruguay, but still considered offensive because it targets a player's colour.Today Liverpool are being condemned by anti-racism campaigners & former Newcastle defender Olivier Bernard has told SkySports he thinks Liverpool are wrong to show support in this way (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7391485/Bernard-condemns-Suarez-stance)I, very much, agree with him. He has proven to use the term, and he has been punished for it. The case is now over, of course with an appeal, and I think Liverpool are trying to say "we think this isn't wrong" to use that term.. When it fully well is.My question to everyone is this.. Do you think Liverpool are taking the wrong stance and, if you do, if Chelsea's players did it would you consider their stance wrong too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 The fact they were all wearing Suarez shirts was cringe-worthy. Basically advertising their support for a racist. I hope we don't do the same for Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Completely right stance.There getting behind one of their own just like we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name=BlueLion' timestamp='1324568043' post='323068]The fact they were all wearing Suarez shirts was cringe-worthy. Basically advertising their support for a racist. I hope we don't do the same for Terry.The worst part was that Suarez actually had the audacity to wear one of those shirts himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 Blind loyalty at Liverpool and Chelsea will not help beat racismFootball has fought a long campaign to fight prejudice in the game, but the reaction of two clubs to recent allegations has been shortsighted and damagingRegardless of the guilt or otherwise of those involved, the initial expressions of support from both clubs had in common the unquestioning acceptance of their players' versions of events, an acceptance that has only hardened with time. Both ruled out the very possibility of guilt, and as far as fans were concerned fully backed the notion that any process capable of convicting the players could only be flawed. In Chelsea's case, the one redeeming feature has been that the defence of Terry has not rested on a besmirching of Ferdinand, thus at least in theory respecting the Queens Park Rangers player's right to complain. It is the same right that, in Evra's case, has been comprehensively ignored by Liverpool.http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/dec/22/chelsea-liverpool-racism-reaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I can't believe Liverpool fc brought out a statement with "Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black''. I could imagine Suarez with his guffy teeth saying, my grandfather was black so i can't be a racist. My question is, why bring colour into an argument Luis ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I can't believe Liverpool fc brought out a statement with "Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black''. I could imagine Suarez with his guffy teeth saying, my grandfather was black so i can't be a racist. My question is, why bring colour into an argument Luis !Yeah I dont get that just seemed a clutching at straws attempt..or can be see as anywayBut guess when really when it comes down to Evra's words against his..not surprised for the fuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hd123 5 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 You spelt Saurez wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 There's a list of tweets on Stan Collymore's twitter account where he's saved a lot of the abuse against Evra by Liverpool fanshttps://twitter.com/#!/StanCollymore/favorites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 WTF?! Whats the point in that?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 WTF?! Whats the point in that?..Because he's the most self-righteous, up-his-own-arse ex-player I've ever heard from. He'll do anything to attack people and show how mighty and above humanity he is. I'm sure his ex-wife agrees... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 But the tweets are still disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 ^ agreed. Collymore is a twat of the highest order but the things that people tweeted were absolutely disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 One of them mentions : -hey come on now that's not cool, LFC family we're better than that!Utterly deluded vile cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 To be honest I don't believe that Suarez did racially abuse Evra. The reason for this is that in 2008, when Evra got into a fight with Chelsea groundsmen he accused them of being racist. Obviously, we never found out whether a particular groundsman did use racist abuse against Suarez and I am not denying that he did but it does seem strange that Patrice Evra has been racially abused twice in his time playing in England and the vast, vast majority of black players have not been abused at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 ^ agreed. Collymore is a twat of the highest order but the things that people tweeted were absolutely disgustingThats what I mean wtf is that gana achieve.........hey come on now that's not cool, LFC family we're better than that!I know every clubs supporters have their idoits and all but LFC ones seemed to pop out a lot more then most... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 To be honest I don't believe that Suarez did racially abuse Evra. The reason for this is that in 2008, when Evra got into a fight with Chelsea groundsmen he accused them of being racist. Obviously, we never found out whether a particular groundsman did use racist abuse against Suarez and I am not denying that he did but it does seem strange that Patrice Evra has been racially abused twice in his time playing in England and the vast, vast majority of black players have not been abused at all.Evra is an absolute cunt and trouble maker . I find it easier to believe Suarez even if he is a diver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Evra is an absolute cunt and trouble maker . I find it easier to believe Suarez even if he is a diverYeah thats the thing whereas with JT there is some evidence.with him its someones word against another...nothing much to go on really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 WOW Liverpool fans are just incest twats. Some of those tweets are just disgraceful beyond belief:Regardless of his guilt or not, LFC fans are just reaffirming themselves (if it was even needed) as the mindless idiots most of them are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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