capriccioso 2,545 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Nakamura's free kicks are far better than Juninho's, imo. Could Juninho beat that? Incredible stuff, he had a split second to aim using a mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I don't buy your argument entirely, blue out west. Growth drugs can't help him technically, his dribbling, passing, eye for goal etc. are all his.Can they improve pace, though? Messi would be half the player he is now if he couldn't control the ball and move at high speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSunshine 672 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 You aren't understanding me.Imagine Pele on test since 13or Zidaneor Maradonahell, even Neymar, he could sure use the massbut Messi got a special exemption because of La Masia political connectionsMessi has a HUGE advantage over other players, he doesn't play under the same rules as others, and whats more, neither does his club!So is it really a surprise you give cheat codes to one player, and cheat codes to a team essentially, and that star player looks so unbelievable?and the argument you made is just ludicrous. Either you prosecute people fully for violating the rules and close the loopholes, or allow PEDs completely. cheating is cheating.Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue out west 27 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I don't buy your argument entirely, blue out west. Growth drugs can't help him technically, his dribbling, passing, eye for goal etc. are all his.Can they improve pace, though? Messi would be half the player he is now if he couldn't control the ball and move at high speeds.You don't know much about performance enhancing drugs, this much is clear.I'm not going to give you the 101 class on it but I can tell you that they for sure helped his technique, control, eye for goal, vision etc.PEDs help you train and help you recovertraining is what develops those skills.If he wasn't on test @ 13 he would've never even been at La Masia on his 15th birthday, much less a Barca reserve player, senior player OR all-world talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I'm no doping expert, but I'm kinda interested in it as you have talked more about it. Sorry if I'm asking too much, can you please write up a small word document or something and PM me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I would like to see Pele on an unlimited amount of steroids since he was 13, and shit, have him schooled there too.Pele 5x the athlete, easily, and thats not even considering testosterone levels.Zidane and Maradonna better than Pele tooMessi is a cheating egomaniac roid monkeythe perfect poster boy for the modern gameMessi was born with a Growth Hormone Deficiency so without these so called "steroids" he would be very sick throughout his life. Do your damn research before slagging him off.Since when was a legitimate medical practice used on sick individuals considered fucking cheat codes?Sure some idiots abuse growth hormones, but it is pretty damn arrogant to think you can just place Messi in with those losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 How on earth did Bosingwa manage to keep Messi quiet as a puppy dog during that semi-final first leg? Watched the Barca game yesterday and he was incredible. There aren't enough superlatives to describe him, really. He scores when he wants. Thing that dumbfounds me most is his backlift before connecting with the ball - it's so short! Like a short arm jab. Pow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Nakamura's free kicks are far better than Juninho's, imo. Could Juninho beat that? Incredible stuff, he had a split second to aim using a mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 He could score 1000000 goals and still not everyone would say he's the best ever. From my opinion, he's the best player i've ever seen and ever will see. I'll be proud to say i watched him throughout his whole career like how ppl saw Pele, Maradonna, Best, Cruyff, Van Basten and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 How on earth did Bosingwa manage to keep Messi quiet as a puppy dog during that semi-final first leg? Watched the Barca game yesterday and he was incredible. There aren't enough superlatives to describe him, really. He scores when he wants. Thing that dumbfounds me most is his backlift before connecting with the ball - it's so short! Like a short arm jab. Pow!Don't remind me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Overated rat faced growth hormone drug cheating cunt not fit to lace Maloudas boots...and he got Del Horno sent off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Nakamura's free kicks are far better than Juninho's, imo. Could Juninho beat that? Incredible stuff, he had a split second to aim using a mirror.Do you know Remi Gaillard ? Because he is better than the guy of whom you posted the video. If you don't, I'll show you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Overated rat faced growth hormone drug cheating cunt not fit to lace Maloudas boots...and he got Del Horno sent off'How do you say cheater in catalan ?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 The great thing about Messi is that I don't even think about his statistics. Just watching him play, magical and majestic.Yeah, it is a real pleasure to watch him play. I can't get enough, everything seems to be easy with him. And what I like with his style, it is that it's very clean (unlike the likes of Ronaldo, Nani, ect...).Some might argue he isn't the best player, but soon enough there will be no room for this debate. Unless he gets a bad injury, in a max of two years, he most likely will top everything.P.s. To discredit him because he had to take testosterone is plainly ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I'm curious to know in how people think he is a cheat. Not trolling or anything i'm actually quite curious and would like to know what they think. Maybe there is a reason for his freakish ability and talent. Or maybe he is just truly a footballing gift. Let the debate begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I'm curious to know in how people think he is a cheat. Not trolling or anything i'm actually quite curious and would like to know what they think. Maybe there is a reason for his freakish ability and talent. Or maybe he is just truly a footballing gift.Let the debate begin.True football ability as far as I'm concerned. Watching him play, how can that be cheating? That's natural ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 True football ability as far as I'm concerned. Watching him play, how can that be cheating? That's natural ability.I've been hearing arguments that he has been given so called 'steroids' for his growth hormone deficiency that overtime has advanced his physical ability, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I've been hearing arguments that he has been given so called 'steroids' for his growth hormone deficiency that overtime has advanced his physical ability,People clutching at straws. He had a growth deficiency, and it's not like he's one them continuously, it was a round of dosage when he was like 10-years old or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 People clutching at straws. He had a growth deficiency, and it's not like he's one them continuously, it was a round of dosage when he was like 10-years old or something.Hence me saying those massive HGH treatments he's been receiving from Barca. A steroid for Height advancements with an increase in muscle mass. Who knows if Barca injected more into him lol, who knows if his overall ability was enhanced as a teenager, speed, strength, balance, etc. Realistically, its not okay for a tall person to cheat to become taller and stronger, I fail to see how its okay for a short person to do it, unless for health reasons. Many view it as that, or maybe were just ignoring the fact he is just truly talented and one of the greatest footballers we will ever see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 last night he was amazing. destroyed and team who beat us. previously he has been anonymous in games between us , though that was when we had a solid defence. if we somehow overcome Napoli i hope we miss Barca by a mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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