LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I hate to spoil the party but until I see more clear evidence of youth development and integration ala John terry, I wouldn't get my hopes high. We have invested heavily in our academy over the past 5 years and the productivity and end result so far has fallen short of expectation. It's not just about buying, there must be a genuine purpose and vision which we have lacked over the years.What gives you the assurance that these crop wouldn't be dismantled and sold while Abramovich splashes £150m (consider inflation) on a single player before or after they reach maturity?????. The thing is, at Chelsea, we believe the grass is always greener on the other side. we show little faith in our youth product and would rather waste money on more finished articles.Agree with both posts.Even under Villas-Boas, there's no way he'd be allowed to/he'd even choose to play our youngsters (Josh is an obvious one to play now). The argument about them not being good enough is unproven, till they're given a proper run out at least, with us. Not a championship squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 It was never a overnight thing, we have a good few on the way through now but watch out for our 12-15 agegroup, ive heard from multiple people that they are the best ever seen for that age in this countryi think I've heard that song before.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Agree with both posts.Even under Villas-Boas, there's no way he'd be allowed to/he'd even choose to play our youngsters (Josh is an obvious one to play now). The argument about them not being good enough is unproven, till they're given a proper run out at least, with us. Not a championship squad.Absolutely agree especially with the highlighted partWhat baffles me is that most or some of our fans share the same mentality as our Board. It really pisses me off tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I have a question. What's up with the work permit???Hernandez did not need a work permit to come to United?Although i have to give credit to Bruce and SAF, for exploiting the central american market. Had they not taken gamble, i don't think Chelsea would have been looking at this player!Well done, we get a great prospect, and with a Mexican player in our team, our marketing will increase big in Mexico! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I have a question. What's up with the work permit???Hernandez did not need a work permit to come to United?Although i have to give credit to Bruce and SAF, for exploiting the central american market. Had they not taken gamble, i don't think Chelsea would have been looking at this player!Well done, we get a great prospect, and with a Mexican player in our team, our marketing will increase big in Mexico!Probably because Hernandez was a regular member of Mexico squad before his move to Utd. The dailymail article claims he will be loaned to Vittesse because he doesn't qualify for work permit. . .what makes us think he would not suffer the sdame fate as Rajko?. . .makes no sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 is he popular enough to make us popular in Mexico? even if he was, Chelsea rarely give youngsters playing time so would he be able to suceed enough to make us poplar in Mexico? I wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 is he popular enough to make us popular in Mexico? even if he was, Chelsea rarely give youngsters playing time so would he be able to suceed enough to make us poplar in Mexico? I wonderIn Mexico they follow every Mexican player that plays in Europe. And obviously more attention to the one who is better, which in this case is Chicharito.But Mexico is a big market, and if this boy becomes good, then great for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Last question. Have we actually signed him?I did not saw anything on the Chelsea website... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Last question. Have we actually signed him?I did not saw anything on the Chelsea website...He said he will be by the end of this week. Soon mate, soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Alright going to ask my Mexican friends about this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 A little like Luis SuarezExcellent, we need a new goalkeeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast 85 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Alright going to ask my Mexican friends about this guy. You should have plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Even under Villas-Boas, there's no way he'd be allowed to/he'd even choose to play our youngsters (Josh is an obvious one to play now). The argument about them not being good enough is unproven, till they're given a proper run out at least, with us. Not a championship squad.Well, promising youngsters are always a 50-50 chance. The problem is a manager who is established with the team can take that risk often like SAF did with Welbeck and Cleverly this season, and he would still have the trust of the fans and the board of directors of the team if things don't work out. But if a manager is new to a team like AVB (and really almost all our managers in the last 10 years) he is much less likely to take a risk with a young player unless he doesn't have better options, for fear of things not going too well and him loosing credit with the fans and owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 http://www.transfermarkt.de/en/ulises-davila/profil/spieler_108820.htmlAccording to transfermarkt he is a Left Winger. Aka meaning forget De Bruyne, this guy will be our new Chicharito. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Well, promising youngsters are always a 50-50 chance. The problem is a manager who is established with the team can take that risk often like SAF did with Welbeck and Cleverly this season, and he would still have the trust of the fans and the board of directors of the team if things don't work out. But if a manager is new to a team like AVB (and really almost all our managers in the last 10 years) he is much less likely to take a risk with a young player unless he doesn't have better options, for fear of things not going too well and him loosing credit with the fans and owners.Yeah, don't get me wrong, I still like AVB and stuff and it is still early days so he could feature them a lot more than previous managers under Abramovich.. Here's to hoping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 You should have plenty.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I hate to spoil the party but until I see more clear evidence of youth development and integration ala John terry, I wouldn't get my hopes high. We have invested heavily in our academy over the past 5 years and the productivity and end result so far has fallen short of expectation. It's not just about buying, there must be a genuine purpose and vision which we have lacked over the years.I don't really agree with you.Our academy has good vision about how to coach young talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Well, promising youngsters are always a 50-50 chance. The problem is a manager who is established with the team can take that risk often like SAF did with Welbeck and Cleverly this season, and he would still have the trust of the fans and the board of directors of the team if things don't work out. But if a manager is new to a team like AVB (and really almost all our managers in the last 10 years) he is much less likely to take a risk with a young player unless he doesn't have better options, for fear of things not going too well and him loosing credit with the fans and owners.No forward and long-term thinking Chelsea fan would question AVB for showing 100% faith in the youth, We have all been crying out for better youth development and integration for the past 4 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I don't really agree with you.Our academy has good vision about how to coach young talent.ehmm Should our vision be to "coach young talent" or to develop and nurture young talents into the starting X1/ 1st team ala John Terry????. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 No forward and long-term thinking Chelsea fan would question AVB for showing 100% faith in the youth, We have all been crying out for better youth development and integration for the past 4 years or so.Unfortunately that species is nearing extinction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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