Juan Mata

[Henrique 9,133]

So, does that mean he was necessarily was the worst player on the pitch like people seem to make it out to be? No.

But it seems Mourinho thought he was the worst. Thats the problem.

[Henrique 9,133]

The reason Roman appointed Mour is to induce stabliity in the team with long- term goals. Mata should play into the Mourinho setup and cement his place in the side.

The question of Mata over Mourinho is obsolete. Period

Stability with Roman? lol

For me it wont be a surprise if Mata is around after Mourinho is elsewhere.

[Jase 43,479]

But it seems Mourinho thought he was the worst. Thats the problem.

When he look back at the game, he might well be regretting the subs we made yesterday. And that aside, it doesn't justify some people here for seemingly overreacting to the Mata situation.

[Azpinator 2,325]

But it seems Mourinho thought he was the worst. Thats the problem.

'Hazard is playing very well and the kid is having a very good evolution, showing maturity. Juan Mata was the same level as the team was.

'I took Mata off, I tried Oscar - the same position but a different player as Mata is more a passer, Oscar more individual creation, and maybe he should have had a penalty.'

http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3458532/title/final-whistle-verdict-chances-passed-by

It's better to take what the man himself said after the match than to make assumptions right?

[meetdoscar 335]

Mata has been great for us, but honestly he was great in a chelsea team competing for a champions league spot rather than EPL title. Now mourinho has brought in some very good competitors in kdb,schurrle and willian but also hazard and oscar have grown more especially oscar who has shown stability in the team this season and is capable of offering the same level of work rate and dynamism through out the season. Mourinho isn't competing for top four/champions league spot, he wants to win the league so i think mata is still important but no longer vital in a team that wants to win the league and also with very capable replacements(sentiments aside). For me the key players in our team now are peter cech(can't be replaced), ashley cole(a different class from bertrand), Eto'o( u know who) and hazard(that is if willian isn't as good as him otherwise he won't be so important).

[Badboy 1,526]

I remember Jose talking about putting mata on the wing then on Saturday he puts him in the cam role. I really don't think mourinho likes a playmaker in the premiership. He's ok with a deco in Portugal or Wesley in Italy because those are slower leagues.

[happy_juan 64]

Mata has been great for us, but honestly he was great in a chelsea team competing for a champions league spot rather than EPL title. Now mourinho has brought in some very good competitors in kdb,schurrle and willian but also hazard and oscar have grown more especially oscar who has shown stability in the team this season and is capable of offering the same level of work rate and dynamism through out the season. Mourinho isn't competing for top four/champions league spot, he wants to win the league so i think mata is still important but no longer vital in a team that wants to win the league and also with very capable replacements(sentiments aside). For me the key players in our team now are peter cech(can't be replaced), ashley cole(a different class from bertrand), Eto'o( u know who) and hazard(that is if willian isn't as good as him otherwise he won't be so important).

That is very very harsh on Juan Mata. He played in 31 league games last year in which we got 69 points.

Most of our disappointing results in the Premier League came when Mata was rested. QPR draw, QPR defeat, West Brom defeat, fulham draw, Southampton defeat.

Infact if you extrapolate those 69 points in 31 games to 38 games, we could have ended up with 85 odd points in the league, 6 more than 2nd placed City and just 4 behind United.

[Styles 9,790]

I remember Jose talking about putting mata on the wing then on Saturday he puts him in the cam role. I really don't think mourinho likes a playmaker in the premiership. He's ok with a deco in Portugal or Wesley in Italy because those are slower leagues.

Mata was so bad against Villa on the wing that Mourinho has had to rethink things.

[meetdoscar 335]

That is very very harsh on Juan Mata. He played in 31 league games last year in which we got 69 points.

Most of our disappointing results in the Premier League came when Mata was rested. QPR draw, QPR defeat, West Brom defeat, fulham draw, Southampton defeat.

Infact if you extrapolate those 69 points in 31 games to 38 games, we could have ended up with 85 odd points in the league, 6 more than 2nd placed City and just 4 behind United.

You are right but the point i was making is that he is still important but not as vital as last season(which you stated) where in his absence we always seemed to loose/drop points. This season has been different with schurrle,kdb,willian and a settled oscar and hazard, in fact we haven't lost a match in his absence really and am talking about really tough games against ManU and Bayern which we would have lost awfully last season if mata wasn't playing. All i am saying is that with or without mata just like most other players in our squad we are still very competitive. I only made the statement here because he was our most vital player last season, our player of the year but this season is different there's a lot more quality competition to earn that title.

[carayip 15]

Mata has been great for us, but honestly he was great in a chelsea team competing for a champions league spot rather than EPL title. Now mourinho has brought in some very good competitors in kdb,schurrle and willian but also hazard and oscar have grown more especially oscar who has shown stability in the team this season and is capable of offering the same level of work rate and dynamism through out the season. Mourinho isn't competing for top four/champions league spot, he wants to win the league so i think mata is still important but no longer vital in a team that wants to win the league and also with very capable replacements(sentiments aside). For me the key players in our team now are peter cech(can't be replaced), ashley cole(a different class from bertrand), Eto'o( u know who) and hazard(that is if willian isn't as good as him otherwise he won't be so important).

Is this post for real?

Before last season, did you also think that RVP could only be great and vital for a side competing for top 4, but not for a title winning side?

Yeah every loss was Mata's fault while all those trophies in the last two years were won despite him, is that what you wanted to apply here?

[carayip 15]

You are right but the point i was making is that he is still important but not as vital as last season(which you stated) where in his absence we always seemed to loose/drop points. This season has been different with schurrle,kdb,willian and a settled oscar and hazard, in fact we haven't lost a match in his absence really and am talking about really tough games against ManU and Bayern which we would have lost awfully last season if mata wasn't playing. All i am saying is that with or without mata just like most other players in our squad we are still very competitive. I only made the statement here because he was our most vital player last season, our player of the year but this season is different there's a lot more quality competition to earn that title.

Again, using RVP as an example, Arsenal were top 4 with him and remained top 4 without him. So in your opinion, RVP must not be a great player and could not be vital and influential to a title winning side, right?

Simply ridiculous!

[zolayes 14,489]

Again, using RVP as an example, Arsenal were top 4 with him and remained top 4 without him. So in your opinion, RVP must not be a great player and could not be vital and influential to a title winning side, right?

Simply ridiculous!

I see little wrong with the post you disagreed with and talking of RVP is not relevant ... last season we had little option but to play Mata till he dropped.

NOW we have more options in his position ,,,, On Saturday I thought he was poor and it was correct to sub him

[meetdoscar 335]

Is this post for real?

Before last season, did you also think that RVP could only be great and vital for a side competing for top 4, but not for a title winning side?

Yeah every loss was Mata's fault while all those trophies in the last two years were won despite him, is that what you wanted to apply here?

No one blames mata for any loss but the reality is that we are a lot stronger now even in mata's absence unlike last season where without mata you couldn't even watch a chelsea match because loosing seemed imminent. Using Rvp is not the same you have Rvp and rooney >>> hernandes and welbeck but in chelsea you have mata/hazard/oscar/willian/Kdb/schurrle/Eto'o pick your choice now.

[happy_juan 64]

No one blames mata for any loss but the reality is that we are a lot stronger now even in mata's absence unlike last season where without mata you couldn't even watch a chelsea match because loosing seemed imminent. Using Rvp is not the same you have Rvp and rooney >>> hernandes and welbeck but in chelsea you have mata/hazard/oscar/willian/Kdb/schurrle/Eto'o pick your choice now.

You started by saying that last season, mata was more important as it was oscar's first season in PL so he was adjusting. Then you moved on to sayinh its no longer an issue as we have brought in KDB, willian, schurrle. Isn't this their first season as well?

[polo 18]

yes , Mata isn't more necessary for this team

[zolayes 14,489]

yes , Mata isn't more necessary for this team

isn't more necessary than who? Torres?

[polo 18]

isn't more necessary than who? Torres?

Torres is a striker lol

[didierforever 7,349]

MATA is not necessary!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

u know what, i would rather have our last 30 minutes of the everton game, with and without mata, be the judge of that.