🇪🇸 Juan Mata

[Jase 43,479]

The thing is, we can keep saying this is made-up media b/s and whatnot but to what extent does that go to before you come to the conclusion 'there's no smoke without fire'?

Mourinho can manipulate anyone in the way he wants. Media, players, fans. He's extremely good at it, but he's also been always known to be blunt and straight forward about some issues. The fact is, yes he's made statements about Mata being important to the team.. But he hasn't really shown it, has he? Yea, we can keep using this whole defense about how tired Mata is but I mean he was an unused sub against Bayern Munich in the Supercup Final & Manchester United.

If it was to be believed that he's only being left out because of this supposed fatigue then you get why he missed the Villa and Hull games and most of pre-season. But if he's missing out on the big games NOW, when Mourinho is supposedly molding his team that is a big signal about what's to come.

That's a fair point and think most of us are aware of that too but again, some of us have mentioned that let's just see how Mata is used and fares under Mourinho after this international break with many games coming up. We will then obviously find out who is right all along - Mourinho or the media.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

That's a fair point and think most of us are aware of that too but again, some of us have mentioned that let's just see how Mata is used and fares under Mourinho after this international break with many games coming up. We will then obviously find out who is right all along - Mourinho or the media.

Of course, and hopefully it will be Mourinho. Though we must be wary, the January transfer window will approach us quicker than we think and if Mata's still in this predicament by then it will be a very grueling January.

[Jase 43,479]

Of course, and hopefully it will be Mourinho. Though we must be wary, the January transfer window will approach us quicker than we think and if Mata's still in this predicament by then it will be a very grueling January.

Agree and not just a grueling January though, it will be a horrific November and December to endure as I'm sure the stories/rumours will all come flying out by then.

[Kinol 337]

The thing is, we can keep saying this is made-up media b/s and whatnot but to what extent does that go to before you come to the conclusion 'there's no smoke without fire'?

Mourinho can manipulate anyone in the way he wants. Media, players, fans. He's extremely good at it, but he's also been always known to be blunt and straight forward about some issues. The fact is, yes he's made statements about Mata being important to the team.. But he hasn't really shown it, has he? Yea, we can keep using this whole defense about how tired Mata is but I mean he was an unused sub against Bayern Munich in the Supercup Final & Manchester United.

If it was to be believed that he's only being left out because of this supposed fatigue then you get why he missed the Villa and Hull games and most of pre-season. But if he's missing out on the big games NOW, when Mourinho is supposedly molding his team that is a big signal about what's to come.

Getting Mata in during the super cup would be dumb after the red card and the United game just wasnt Matas type of game.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Getting Mata in during the super cup would be dumb after the red card and the United game just wasnt Matas type of game.

For the Supercup match, it's not that he was unused (though that's still an issue), it's the fact the player we claim is the vital player for us, isn't playing a cup final. If he's as important as we think, he should be starting such games.

If the United match, the match vs the Champions & fellow title contenders, isn't his type of game.. What is?

[chelsea_4_eva 1,182]

[polo 18]

how can he be happy? he doesn't play for the moment

[Kojo 4,676]

Yeah but he's still a football player with an ambition to play for Spain but also be playing regularly for a club with title ambitions, not just being a bit-part player for that kind of club.

I don't understand what you mean by that?

The way how you put but are you saying that it's a bad thing? I like how he has that ambition, most footballers aren't even arsed about there national team, however he wants to play in every game even the U21 tournament he wanted to play all games and Olympics. .

[Ankit 3,176]

IS that Oscar? He looks like he is crying? Whats the story behind this?

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I don't understand what you mean by that?

The way how you put but are you saying that it's a bad thing? I like how he has that ambition, most footballers aren't even arsed about there national team, however he wants to play in every game even the U21 tournament he wanted to play all games and Olympics. .

Because if he's not a regular for us, then he's not going to be looked at for all these competitions. I'm saying that in order for him to get chosen for these international games, he'll want to be playing regularly for a big club. At the moment he's not, he won't settle for being bit-part with us.

[Tomo 21,751]

IS that Oscar? He looks like he is crying? Whats the story behind this?

He's saying goodbye to Oscar because he is about to get on a different plane to Paris to have a medical with PSG.

Source: The Daily Star.

[Ankit 3,176]

Here is Mata's new blog. As usual very nice but he mentions he wants to come to India for a visit. That made me very happy. I hope he comes and i get to meet him somehow!

http://blogs.grada360.com/juanmata/en/2013/09/09/nueva-temporada-nuevas-metas/#comment-1035603174

[DJames 729]

IS that Oscar? He looks like he is crying? Whats the story behind this?

That was when we lost the Club World Cup

[Barbara 15,149]

The thing is, we can keep saying this is made-up media b/s and whatnot but to what extent does that go to before you come to the conclusion 'there's no smoke without fire'?

Mourinho can manipulate anyone in the way he wants. Media, players, fans. He's extremely good at it, but he's also been always known to be blunt and straight forward about some issues. The fact is, yes he's made statements about Mata being important to the team.. But he hasn't really shown it, has he? Yea, we can keep using this whole defense about how tired Mata is but I mean he was an unused sub against Bayern Munich in the Supercup Final & Manchester United.

If it was to be believed that he's only being left out because of this supposed fatigue then you get why he missed the Villa and Hull games and most of pre-season. But if he's missing out on the big games NOW, when Mourinho is supposedly molding his team that is a big signal about what's to come.

I think the main reason why Mata was an unused sub was because Mourinho saw the extra-time coming and he chose to space out his subs a bit more and then Hazard scored for us and with our team needing to literally defend the result bring Mata would be a suicide mission with his poor defending skills. Add that to the fact that we lost Rami during the 90 minutes and chances for him to come are even more unlikely. Also we were able to create chances (we could have scored a goal or two between Oscar's sitter and a couple of saves by Neuer). We only really parked the bus in the second half of the extra time because we had to and Bayern was pressuring us a lot.

That said, I don't disagree about Mourinho not being clear about Mata - he hasn't. While he was praising other players and being very emphatic on Luiz not leaving the club, he was mild and many times simply refused to address Mata. He'd say a 4-5 words sentence to answer questions about Mata and change the topic or wait for the next question. Who knows Mourinho's antics caught it easily. It's the half-truths he says all the time (and imo also his great likeness to Oscar and his work rate) that make me unsure of how he'll use Mata.

I've learned reticent Mourinho about any subject is never a good sign and gosh, was he reticent about Mata at many points?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Is Oscar crying?

EDIT: Never mind, DJames answered the question above.

[Kinol 337]

For the Supercup match, it's not that he was unused (though that's still an issue), it's the fact the player we claim is the vital player for us, isn't playing a cup final. If he's as important as we think, he should be starting such games.

If the United match, the match vs the Champions & fellow title contenders, isn't his type of game.. What is?

Im not talking about the status of the game, but the tactical side. Mourinho clearly used his famous "we cannot lose" speech.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

Totally agree with the fact that Mata couldn't have been effective against Bayern because of his poor defensive abilities and that's why Mou decided to use Schurrle who had previously played against Bayern on a couple of occasions and is much better than Mata in terms of defending.

Also, I am pretty sure that most of you remember Mata's performance against Brasil in the Confederation Cup's Final which he was completely outplayed in by Brazil's high pressing. Bayern play like that too. That was how they managed to control Barca's midfield last year.

[-Kaplan- 410]

Will be very surprised if Mata stays past the winter transfer-window. He's too good to sit on the bench for us. Hopefully Mourinho can actually clear things up with him(not that vague bullshit), like he did with Iker. Otherwise, bye bye Mata.

If he did leave, he is well within his right. He deserves to start every game.

[Jase 43,479]

Miguel Delaney ‏@MiguelDelaney 5m

Mourinho on Mata: "He's in the same plans as all the others. He's a player I like very much, that's why he's here. A player I trust a lot."

Mourinho on Mata: "He's a player that starts the match, sometimes on the bench, the squad is good, the squad is competitive."

Mourinho: "With matches every three days, sometimes I will make decisions that are strange in your eyes... leave out an important player."

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Perhaps he is just keeping him to not be too tired and gain fitness properly. Having top Mata in march-may is better than rushing him at the moment. He might seriously need break atm or sth.