Tomo 21,751 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Remember the two home games with Stoke in 2012? It was a Mata moment of brilliance in both that helped us win 1-0.It's incredible how fans have just adopted a 'hate' for Mata in an attempt to show they are true 'Mourinhoista'. These same people have been drawing Mata-Zola comparisons for ages and have been talking about how he's a next Chelsea legend etc. Stop twisting things and maybe these "mourinhoistas" learned from the Cech Cudicini situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 You are so wrong. Also, our best player is Eden Hazard not Juan Mata. Eden Hazard is not just better than Juan, he is SOOO much better. Less crack please.You're 7th in the league desperately fighting for Europa league football with Moyes in charge and you're telling us to be worried ? Also for someone claiming to not be butthurt about Hazard you sure make a lot of butthurt comments about him.He snubbed you guys and chose the better team. Get over it. The better team? Your team is owned by an oil baron. Everything we have was earned. We have a rich history, and are currently champions. Chelsea fans are getting WAY ahead of themselves. You're the pretenders. And bingo. That's the biggest problem Mata had - he didn't have the stamina or athleticism to consistently lead the pressing game for us. He'd always tire out at around the 50/60th minute and it would greatly affect his ability in the final third because he was knackered.Oscar doesn't have that problem. Our CAM is the one who leads our initial pressing game; we have stages - our forwards press, then the pivot then the defence and our AM leads the forwards; and Mata isn't effective in that because of his lack of athleticism and lack of long enduring stamina.It's really that simple.Sorry I don't buy it. If Mata was so unfit he wouldn't be allowed to play. It's not like he's even old either. Also Oscar can do it, but he can't? Really? Because he is shit at it? He isn't even winding people up, in fact he is losing every argument he has started.I'm not a troll. This is why I look shit at it. Well pointed out, and thanks for the support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Sorry I don't buy it. If Mata was so unfit he wouldn't be allowed to play. It's not like he's even old either. Also Oscar can do it, but he can't? Really?It's not about him being unfit, he doesn't possess the lungs that Oscar does. Mata is the sort of player that reserves his energy for action in the final third - Oscar is all over the pitch. You can refuse to believe that if you want but I'm pretty sure everyone on here, you know people that have watched Mata consistently for the last two seasons, will tell you Mata isn't athletic enough to be leading the high press for 90 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Don't get why this JayC guy hasn't been banned. He might not be the most obvious troll in the world, but he surely doesn't contribute anything positive here. Like that Everton fan that used to show up here before. You don't have to like Chelsea, but at least don't go around spouting your United bias all over a Chelsea forum and telling us who our best player is and whatnot The_Flash and Eden2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 It's not about him being unfit, he doesn't possess the lungs that Oscar does. Mata is the sort of player that reserves his energy for action in the final third - Oscar is all over the pitch.You can refuse to believe that if you want but I'm pretty sure everyone on here, you know people that have watched Mata consistently for the last two seasons, will tell you Mata isn't athletic enough to be leading the high press for 90 minutes.I have watched him consistently. He's always on the move...He has amazing energy. You really don't know your ex-player. Lie to yourself all you want, it doesn't bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The better team? Your team is owned by an oil baron. Everything we have was earned. We have a rich history, and are currently champions. Chelsea fans are getting WAY ahead of themselves. You're the pretenders. Oh god enough with this history nonsense. You're starting to sound like a Liverpool fan. "We suck now but we used to be good". Well congrats on that matey. The only place to be, bababoom and AswinR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I have watched him consistently. He's always on the move...He has amazing energy. You really don't know your ex-player. Lie to yourself all you want, it doesn't bother me.Mata has amazing energy? Yeah okay pal. If that's what you want to think to yourself lol. The_Flash, Barbara and bababoom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 He's trying to wind you all up. JayC saying Mata has amazing energy gave it away, better luck next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 That's the main thing many people said, yes mata was good but almost universally everyone said he lacked pace. I saw the cardiff game and he was ***** knackered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I have watched him consistently. He's always on the move...He has amazing energy. You really don't know your ex-player. Lie to yourself all you want, it doesn't bother me. You're stupid. And i mean that in the nicest way possible. bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I have watched him consistently. He's always on the move...He has amazing energy. You really don't know your ex-player. Lie to yourself all you want, it doesn't bother me.Was he full of energy when he looked older than Xavi in the confederatios cup final?Amazing energy all right. Was so amazing watching the striker put more a shift in than him when we didnt have the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I have watched him consistently. He's always on the move...He has amazing energy. You really don't know your ex-player. Lie to yourself all you want, it doesn't bother me.You're stupid. And i mean that in the nicest way possible.And you're either blind or an idiot, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.I'm pretty positive we here know Mata nearly perfectly, having watched him play a lot more than most United fans have. bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 And you're either blind or an idiot, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.I'm pretty positive we here know Mata nearly perfectly, having watched him play a lot more than most United fans have.iseah100 was quoting JayC. bababoom and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 iseah100 was quoting JayC. So? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This forum is totally broken.I give up trying to reason. The comparison between Liverpool, and us was hilarious mind. I really laughed out loud. Thanks for that parting gift.Would an admin kindly completely delete my account please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This forum is totally broken.I give up trying to reason. The comparison between Liverpool, and us was hilarious mind. I really laughed out loud. Thanks for that parting gift.Would an admin kindly completely delete my account please.'This forum is totally broken' :lol:You want to delete your account because people don't agree with your opinion? fucking hell mate get a grip. The comparison between Liverpool was brought up because you wrote about United's history, it was said in jest. Stop being so sensitive. Jesus christ. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 @Yeboii Whoa... I'm a Chelsea fan? Lol bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,507 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 @JayC,No need to be sensitive mateLet's put this way...Mata should help United improve and the 37 million should help us sign a decent strikerWin win situation for both clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This forum is totally broken.I give up trying to reason. The comparison between Liverpool, and us was hilarious mind. I really laughed out loud. Thanks for that parting gift.Would an admin kindly completely delete my account please.1. We don't delete accounts.2. Have self-control and just leave the forum. It really isn't hard to not sign in. Roquila, CHOULO19 and AswinR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 @JayC,No need to be sensitive mateLet's put this way...Mata should help United improve and the 37 million should help us sign a decent strikerWin win situation for both clubs?Nah I'm tired. I have been called a troll, told to fuck off etc... a moderator has banned me for two days for having an opinion. It's enough sorry.You should be proud to call yourself a football and Chelsea fan though. This forum doesn't deserve people liek you.1. We don't delete accounts.2. Have self-control and just leave the forum. It really isn't hard to not sign in.I've always had a problem with self control.I think your mother is a whore.See? So ban me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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