Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 After reading several articles, finally I understand why a world-class manager like Del Bosque preferring Silva over him. You didnt have to read the articles, you could have just asked me. Silva is a much better player than him.Silva also is a much better player for Spain. Korea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cech's helmet 220 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Jose Mourinho has been recalling his time as Joe Cole's manager, saying he is pleased he was able to develop our former midfielder, now at West Ham, into a better player.Cole is yet to turn out at Stamford Bridge since leaving Chelsea in 2010, and unfortunately injury prevents him from playing any part in today's game, where he would certainly have received a fantastic reception from former colleagues and supporters alike.Cole was a key component of Mourinho's title-winning sides in 2005 and 2006, with the Portuguese helping convert our former number 10 from a skilful midfielder capable of individual brilliance to a team player capable of consistency and quality in equal measure. Mourinho reflected on that transformation ahead of our game with Cole's current employers, West Ham.'I very much enjoyed working with Joe,' our manager said.'Maybe I'm wrong - and Joe is the one that can say if I'm wrong or not - but my opinion is that with us he had the best time of his career. He had a difficult five or six months but after that I think he had the best three years of his career with Chelsea and as a consequence of that with England, because he was a regular player for England too.'As a coach Joe is one of the examples you keep, and I keep a lot from my career, where you feel that we did something to make a player better. I like this because when you have players with talent but not other things, you can give them the other things. When the players have the other things but they don't have the talent, you cannot give them the talent.'The way you train, the way you face competition, the responsibility to play in a collective situation and be ready to play in different positions and in different tactical systems - these are the things we managers can give them. Joe was a very talented player at that time and I think we helped him to be better.'http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3642304/title/mourinho-a-great-exampleEveryone needs to read this. I'm pretty sure he's slagging Mata there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 According to the Jim White, he had a great influence. His pass to Young set up the move for their opening goal.No he didn't, what game was he watching ?? I barely heard his name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svita 10 186 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 very poor from Cohen this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He's a good player but he has not a cutting edge.The way he played yesterday reading many comment of Manchester United fans was how I expected him to play especially with Valencia and Young in the wing.I guess he will look extra good again if he plays with Januzaj that will eliminate players in midfield.He played deep yesterday, playing either very conservative passes or speculative long balls. He played good last year as second striker but it was Oscar Hazard that were going past players. Like I said earlier, it was Oscar, Ramires, Hazard and Torres that were doing the work of carrying the ball, going past players, movements around the box that were giving him extra time and space in the final third.So you are basically Mata was only good because he had those players doing the things you mentioned?! Seriously, I don't know what is wrong with some people this season being so keen to play down Mata's abilities and discrediting all those great things he has done for us in the past 2 seasons.For starters, Mata is an advanced playmaker that dictates the play in the attacking third and you obviously then gonna need players to make off the ball movements to allow chances to be created and allow Mata to exert this influence. And let's not act like as is Mata himself doesn't pass and move around to offer himself as a passing option and/or drag players away so that others can shine as well. You think players like Hazard, Oscar are able to dribble and get players if they don't have players like Mata, Torres and others don't make off the ball movements? They will just be running into cul-de-sacs!Also comparing the likes of Hazard, Oscar etc with their ability on the ball to get past players with Mata is just nonsensical when they are different type of players with their own unique abilities on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 very poor from Cohen this timeAlmost, if not, all of his songs are rather cringeworthy IMO. Svita 10 and ZanSnake 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I understand that it all hurts us to see him play for United but we just have to accept it and move on. Does it really hurt people? He was unwanted by us. We had moved on from him with a style of football that is attractive and also gets results. He was a very nice player for us in a period when we were pretty shit but to be honest I'm not at all pained by seeing him playing for United.It was all very amicably done so I don't get why there should be any bad feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 So you are basically Mata was only good because he had those players doing the things you mentioned?! Seriously, I don't know what is wrong with some people this season being so keen to play down Mata's abilities and discrediting all those great things he has done for us in the past 2 seasons.For starters, Mata is an advanced playmaker that dictates the play in the attacking third and you obviously then gonna need players to make off the ball movements to allow chances to be created and allow Mata to exert this influence. And let's not act like as is Mata himself doesn't pass and move around to offer himself as a passing option and/or drag players away so that others can shine as well. You think players like Hazard, Oscar are able to dribble and get players if they don't have players like Mata, Torres and others don't make off the ball movements? They will just be running into cul-de-sacs!Also comparing the likes of Hazard, Oscar etc with their ability on the ball to get past players with Mata is just nonsensical when they are different type of players with their own unique abilities on the ball.I didn't say he was a shitty player.Just that he has more limitations than some players and not just physically. If he could play more with his right it would help him. Players who press him knows where he will turn, to his left foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 No he didn't, what game was he watching ?? I barely heard his nameNo he didn't, what game was he watching ?? I barely heard his nameI think he meant that Juan Mata brought some quality into the team. And while I saw the game today (had exams so when I came home I saw the games I missed) he did play some nice diagonal balls. (anyway I only read a bit of his article haha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Goodbye Mata.I will remember you're amazing moments in the blue, and will always held you high within my lists of best players for Chelsea in the last year - but i also hope, that as a red the goal of the Premier League title eludes you as it will always hurt me to see you hold that cup with a red shirt when you didn't with a blue.Thank you for the memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 that was a kind of game where we needed that one moment of brilliance, that one pass Juan Mata used to provide. counter-attack my ass when the opposite team has one shot on goal. Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 that was a kind of game where we needed that one moment of brilliance, that one pass Juan Mata used to provide. counter-attack my ass when the opposite team has one shot on goal.Maybe it needed a Torres goal or a Lukaku one ,, I guess we will get a brilliant post from you whenever we fail to win ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 From Oscar and Hazard to Giggs, Valencia and Young. Enjoy.Don't be so bitter.One game, one assist for Mata in United RED. In other news..... Hazard was simply the best tonight. Your best player? I'd be worried. ;pI mean I lost a seven bet accumulator tonight because of Chelsea and their best player. I took it in good confidence what was said to me pages ago. Guess I shouldn't listen to kids.... my own fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Don't be so bitter.One game, one assist for Mata in United RED. In other news..... Hazard was simply the best tonight. Your best player? I'd be worried. ;pI mean I lost a seven bet accumulator tonight because of Chelsea and their best player. I took it in good confidence what was said to me pages ago. Guess I shouldn't listen to kids.... my own fault.delighted to know you lost your pocket money Surrey boy ,, now fuck off its past your bed time Reddish-Blue and AswinR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 delighted to know you lost your pocket money Surrey boy ,, now fuck off its past your bed time Will you tuck me in..? oh and I always get a cuddle before bed. Pleeease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Will you tuck me in..? oh and I always get a cuddle before bed. Pleeease.doesnt mommy do that ,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Guess I shouldn't listen to kids.... my own fault.Must be fucked when you can't even listen to yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Must be fucked when you can't even listen to yourself.I wouldn't worry about it, I lost a nine bet accumulator on Saturday too, by one result. I told myself - don't choose Arsenal. Unfortunately I didn't agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I wouldn't worry about it, I lost a nine bet accumulator on Saturday too, by one result. I told myself - don't choose Arsenal. Unfortunately I didn't agree.Shakira Shakira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 One game, one assist for Mata in United RED. What assist? That pass to Young was recorded as an assist? Load of bollocks, Young took 100 touches and ran a mile before he scored. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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