Romelu Lukaku

[King Kante 1,643]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Felix would get bullied at CF in the EPL, he is not good at hold-up play

the only players on AM who interest me are

Jan Oblak   (is having an off year so far, and is so not the worth £107m release claise)
Marcos Llorente    (we do not need him, and he is also having an off year)
José María Giménez  (injuries have always worried me, and his play was never the same after Godin left) 
Rodrigo de Paul (see Llorente, minus the off year)
Renan Lodi   (as a backup LB)

At this point, I'd take Paul Furlong in exchange for Lukaku. 

[Alabama 1,992]

9 hours ago, Vesper said:

Felix would get bullied at CF in the EPL, he is not good at hold-up play

the only players on AM who interest me are

Jan Oblak   (is having an off year so far, and is so not the worth £107m release claise)
Marcos Llorente    (we do not need him, and he is also having an off year)
José María Giménez  (injuries have always worried me, and his play was never the same after Godin left) 
Rodrigo de Paul (see Llorente, minus the off year)
Renan Lodi   (as a backup LB)

Unfortunately he is injured right now...Federico Chiesa I hope a desperate club like PSG can come with a bid like £80m above for Lukaku and we replace him with Chiesa or we take a risk on Anthony of Ajax though we have been linked with him in the past...

[King Kante 1,643]

3 hours ago, Alabama said:

Unfortunately he is injured right now...Federico Chiesa I hope a desperate club like PSG can come with a bid like £80m above for Lukaku and we replace him with Chiesa or we take a risk on Anthony of Ajax though we have been linked with him in the past...

Not sure about this guy, his uncle told me he doesn't have the makings of a varsity athlete. 

[Alabama 1,992]

1 hour ago, King Kante said:

Not sure about this guy, his uncle told me he doesn't have the makings of a varsity athlete. 

Anthony?

[Vesper 30,139]

5 hours ago, Alabama said:

Unfortunately he is injured right now...Federico Chiesa I hope a desperate club like PSG can come with a bid like £80m above for Lukaku and we replace him with Chiesa or we take a risk on Anthony of Ajax though we have been linked with him in the past...

Chiesa is out until September or October or so, he destroyed his ACL, so no go on him until summer 2023 (zero chance I would buy him in January 2023 after just 2 or 3months back)

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, King Kante said:

Not sure about this guy, his uncle told me he doesn't have the makings of a varsity athlete. 

It's a saying from The Sopranos series. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

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[OneMoSalah 8,886]

On 05/02/2022 at 17:48, MoroccanBlue said:

5 games on the trot he’s played a full 90. Now 120 minutes today and still nothing. 
 

Say what you want about Havertz and Werner, but neither of them had this run of games with nothing to show for it. 
 

Pathetic from Tuchel. 

100% inaccurate. But its Lukaku so I can get why its very much anyone but him would do. But again Werner went on like two runs of 10+ games not scoring in his first season. Or something incredibly stupid along those lines. Maybe he had some “movement” in those games as many people alludes to during that run but unfortunately, movement doesn’t win football matches at the of the day.

End of the day every attacking signing we’ve made (Lukaku, Werner, Havertz, Ziyech) in the last 18 months, have struggled to inspire confidence and would say more importantly, consistency.

I think that video interview may have put the nails in our season, never mind Rom’s Chelsea career. We seem deflated. I know we’ve got this CWC final and Carabao Cup final but we’ve been very very flat and look very deflated for a good while now.

I know people will say we had a decent front 3 and system last season but lets not forget those players, when they’ve played this season (albeit not together anywhere near as often - couldn’t tell you the amount of times they have) have done very little individually (Mount has an alright G&A though to be fair) which is even more worrying because based on their levels, its not as throwing those 3 back together for the foreseeable may necessarily make a difference either. 

Edited February 9, 2022 by OneMoSalah

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

100% inaccurate. But its Lukaku so I can get why its very much anyone but him would do. But again Werner went on like two runs of 10+ games not scoring in his first season. Or something incredibly stupid along those lines. Maybe he had some “movement” in those games as many people alludes to during that run but unfortunately, movement doesn’t win football matches at the of the day.

Even when Werner went on a goal drought or struggled to score goals, he helped compensate by providing assists along the way at the very least. Lukaku's assist count this season still stands at ZERO and we're in bloody February! If he's not scoring (tap ins), he's contributing nothing and this is a 100 million player!

This isn't about Werner but more about the movement factor. You like to shit on the argument but you seem to ignore the fact that movement helps to disorganize defences, thus leading to opportunities being created. Right now, we literally have a statue upfront in Lukaku who doesn't move about and becomes super easy for opposing teams to pick up and defend against. 

[NikkiCFC 8,313]

But we are scoring more goals this season than last.

58 last season in 38 PL games.

48 in 24 this season.

There is really not much positive you can say about our attack with Rom or no Rom.

Very simple. Werner, Havertz, Pulisic, Lukaku are all playing better for NTs. Why?

[NikkiCFC 8,313]

Giroud with another brace in a derby.

[laura90 556]

On 06/02/2022 at 09:20, Jase said:

It's no secret that the club make the call on signings and while I don't know if Tuchel would have been able to persuade them to do otherwise, it's worth noting that Tuchel himself also went along with the Lukaku signing (he mentioned he spoke with Tuchel before joining). So, Tuchel isn't exactly innocent here. 

Sorry I have just seen your reply. I don't consider Tuchel innocent, obviously I can't but I firmly believe had it been only him making the shots who would be signed Lukaku wouldn't even been here. Had he been told he has 100 mil to spend he would have spent it on wingback and midfielder  or CB probably.

This club spent entire summer generating funds for Lukaku. Waited to sell Cats abuser and Tammy to sign Lukaku. Decision about Lukaku was made early and it was known for everybody,  including Tuchel. Once signing was imminent Tuchel could have tried to come to an agreement with him on how to use him in the team. 

It was his job to get along with board decision. He is paid for that. Could he persuade them to spend 180 mill on one player, who will stay there long after he is gone?  Not in a mil. years. Record transfer, record wages. It's is board decision. Klopp would maybe give Salah 500 000 a week but that salary is board decision.
AS I said before, Marina believed that one Lukaku is enough to cover wingback, midfielder, CB and attacking player.  WE can have mediocre players there if we have Lukaku. Just like Hazard in those days enabled us to have mediocre players in various positions. No need to invest further. 

Had he been exclusively Tuchel signing Tuchel would have let Lukaku to take penalties when goals dried up  ( Just like Conte did, 17 / 18 goals in Italian league isn't that impressive)  and wouldn't bench him ever, leading to interview and manic eating  of fast food we are seeing.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

On 09/02/2022 at 19:17, Jase said:

Even when Werner went on a goal drought or struggled to score goals, he helped compensate by providing assists along the way at the very least. Lukaku's assist count this season still stands at ZERO and we're in bloody February! If he's not scoring (tap ins), he's contributing nothing and this is a 100 million player!

This isn't about Werner but more about the movement factor. You like to shit on the argument but you seem to ignore the fact that movement helps to disorganize defences, thus leading to opportunities being created. Right now, we literally have a statue upfront in Lukaku who doesn't move about and becomes super easy for opposing teams to pick up and defend against. 

End of the day, the excuses or whatever, none of the pair of them are the right fit or more importantly and accurately, good enough for a team that wants to be fighting for the big trophies every season. 

The Timo movement argument for me, I dont get why you persist with it. I mean okay yes movement is all well and good in the final third but its still gonna be pointless without a proper stream of goals/if the guy flukes the easiest looking chance in the world etc etc. Be it Timo or Romelu or someone else scoring them. Goals is something we are lacking from the forward players and something we also lacked last season. Even the at least he’s getting assists argument, would this argument of been valid for a Torres or a Falcao? Or a Morata? Or well anybody else… I severely doubt it because they are/were goalscorers and thats what we expected with Timo. 

He does work hard though, which granted for a player who has been through 2 huge barren runs, missed so many easy chances and can’t get in the team really, is encouraging but barring that, just don’t think he cuts it on a footballing level.

 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

End of the day, the excuses or whatever, none of the pair of them are the right fit or more importantly and accurately, good enough for a team that wants to be fighting for the big trophies every season. 

Yet, one played his part in the Champions League winning run last season. Go figure...

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

The Timo movement argument for me, I dont get why you persist with it. I mean okay yes movement is all well and good in the final third but its still gonna be pointless without a proper stream of goals/if the guy flukes the easiest looking chance in the world etc etc.

If anything, I don't get why you seem to persist with writing essay length post on your hate for Werner. 🙃

If you read the post properly, I had said it's less about Werner and more about the movement quality needed upfront. The lack of fluidity upfront becomes painfully obvious when we play Lukaku upfront because he doesn't offer any sort of movement to keep opponents guessing and disrupt their defensive shape. It might seem like a minor thing but if Tuchel wants to play this possession style game, then the players has gotta offer movement, mobility to create spaces for others, to link up the play better etc. 

[Vesper 30,139]

1 hour ago, Jase said:

Yet, one played his part in the Champions League winning run last season. Go figure...

If anything, I don't get why you seem to persist with writing essay length post on your hate for Werner. 🙃

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