Romelu Lukaku

[Eligius 121]

If it was me, I would bring in Costa or whoever as the number 1, Remy, and bring back either Eto or FT9.

Everton should play in europe next season and martinez success is largely due to lukaku and barry, so another season on loan would be logical.

[didierforever 7,349]

If it was me, I would bring in Costa or whoever as the number 1, Remy, and bring back either Eto or FT9.

Everton should play in europe next season and martinez success is largely due to lukaku and barry, so another season on loan would be logical.

Not bad actually. Everton shoukd get europa at least and lukaku does need that big nights experience. It would be a good thing for him especially if everton can get CL.

As for remy. long shot. Dont think we would be buying a striker for 20mil when loaning out anotger of the same value. That would be a true hit on the FFP. Simply can't see that happening. I woukd rather like a costa-etoo and ba as a 3rd striker. Torrws no where near the club

[Eligius 121]

Not bad actually. Everton shoukd get europa at least and lukaku does need that big nights experience. It would be a good thing for him especially if everton can get CL.

As for remy. long shot. Dont think we would be buying a striker for 20mil when loaning out anotger of the same value. That would be a true hit on the FFP. Simply can't see that happening. I woukd rather like a costa-etoo and ba as a 3rd striker. Torrws no where near the club

Remy cost QPR 8-10m.. His release clause is 8-12m. QPR plays in the championship, he will not cost 20m.

Also, Remy probably wont come here anyways and move either to Arsenal or stay another season on loan at Newcastle with the other French mates.

[didierforever 7,349]

Remy cost QPR 8-10m.. His release clause is 8-12m. QPR plays in the championship, he will not cost 20m.

Also, Remy probably wont come here anyways and move either to Arsenal or stay another season on loan at Newcastle with the other French mates.

Qpr are 3rd and definitwly would take part in play offs. They might ver well even get promoted. Don't see wht they will sell remy then. I sincerely doubt remy has a buy out clause. Specially something as low as 12mil. Atleasr I have never heard bout that.

But totally agree that remy would prefer arsen / newcastle.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

Qpr are 3rd and definitwly would take part in play offs. They might ver well even get promoted. Don't see wht they will sell remy then. I sincerely doubt remy has a buy out clause. Specially something as low as 12mil. Atleasr I have never heard bout that.

But totally agree that remy would prefer arsen / newcastle.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with what you're saying but just saying that Remy is worth less than 12 million.

[Stingray 9,441]

Sorry but Azpi was not figured into Mourinho at the beginning of the season and he fought for his place.

Schurrle was a ghost for a half a season and has found his way back in his team by hard training and such.

KDB could not cut it and ran way. Weak mental characters, nothing more.

I cannot but react. In your definition Abrahamovic even would'nt cut it. You make an interpretatation about a weakness Kdb apparantly has - in another fashion than Oscar - been seperate from his parents to train/footbal far away.

Lol. Your interprations are more premature than a pope's ejaculations with a food hooker.

We can only be the judge on guys that had a real chance in the team. Torres anyone?

[Eligius 121]

Qpr are 3rd and definitwly would take part in play offs. They might ver well even get promoted. Don't see wht they will sell remy then. I sincerely doubt remy has a buy out clause. Specially something as low as 12mil. Atleasr I have never heard bout that.

But totally agree that remy would prefer arsen / newcastle.

The same reason why they allowed Remy to go on loan even when their club needed remy to get them back into top flight.

Remy release clause in France was the amount QPR paid for him and his release clause for QPR is around the same range.

[Fernando 6,453]

I cannot but react. In your definition Abrahamovic even would'nt cut it. You make an interpretatation about a weakness Kdb apparantly has - in another fashion than Oscar - been seperate from his parents to train/footbal far away.

Lol. Your interprations are more premature than a pope's ejaculations with a food hooker.

We can only be the judge on guys that had a real chance in the team. Torres anyone?

[ZanSnake 1,211]

If it's true about Ba leaving, and with Torres open to moving back to Atletico - we can either do a cash-plus swap for Costa and then have Eto'o, Lukaku and Costa or Loan him back out to Everton (if in Europe) and then promote Bamford to third striker. Or another way is to use Shurrle for the third option and loan both Lukaku and Bamford out, with a semi-rotation with Eto'o and Costa for the season.

[didierforever 7,349]

The same reason why they allowed Remy to go on loan even when their club needed remy to get them back into top flight.

Remy release clause in France was the amount QPR paid for him and his release clause for QPR is around the same range.

The reason remy was sent out on loan was cos people don't want to play in the championship. They would find it derogatory. Its hilarious that u think that If qpr do get promoted, they would still let him go out on loan. No way.

[Eligius 121]

The reason remy was sent out on loan was cos people don't want to play in the championship. They would find it derogatory. Its hilarious that u think that If qpr do get promoted, they would still let him go out on loan. No way.

its also hilarious that you seem to know more about Remy than me...

Even though his release clause has been publicized multiple times in England. Um, if they get promoted. What if they dont? Why would you risk loaning one of your best players to another team? Maybe, it's because he was going to leave anyways, but a deal was never made. Remy came to QPR/England just for money/exposure, he could care less about QPR.

So, if Chelsea were playing in the championship, would we loan Hazard to a team in the EPL just cause he doesn't want to play in the championship?

[didierforever 7,349]

its also hilarious that you seem to know more about Remy than me...

Even though his release clause has been publicized multiple times in England. Um, if they get promoted. What if they dont? Why would you risk loaning one of your best players to another team? Maybe, it's because he was going to leave anyways, but a deal was never made. Remy came to QPR/England just for money, he could care less about QPR.

So, if Chelsea were playing in the championship, would we loan Hazard to a team in the EPL just cause he doesn't want to play in the championship?

What the f!!!!

Do u have any clue at all. Qpr loaned these guys so that if they make it to PL next season, they can call them back. And please check again about whom ALL, qpr have loaned out. It is remy, park, bosingwa, cesar, granero, tarrabt, derry etx

LOL, u think a deal could not naterialize for all these players. That is one lazy ass board then. LOL.

Why wpuld they risk loaning them out cos

A. The players dint want to play in the championship

B. Not loaning them would mean permanently losong them.

C. By loaning they would get a chamce of having these players backif rhey get PL.

So please get your facts right.

If chelsea gp to championship, and if hazard says that he does not want to play in championship then we would have to loan/sell him out.

[Eligius 121]

What the f!!!!

Do u have any clue at all. Qpr loaned these guys so that if they make it to PL next season, they can call them back. And please check again about whom ALL, qpr have loaned out. It is remy, park, bosingwa, cesar, granero, tarrabt, derry etx

LOL, u think a deal could not naterialize for all these players. That is one lazy ass board then. LOL.

Why wpuld they risk loaning them out cos

A. The players dint want to play in the championship

B. Not loaning them would mean permanently losong them.

C. By loaning they would get a chamce of having these players backif rhey get PL.

So please get your facts right.

If chelsea gp to championship, and if hazard says that he does not want to play in championship then we would have to loan/sell him out.

Remy is gone this summer.

Park is old. You really think someone going to pay a transfer fee for Park? Also, park is not a starter even though he was captain.

Bosingwa is old. You really think someone going to pay a transfer fee for him?

JC lost his starting role...

Granero sucked

And the Milan cam was always going to leave them....

You don't seem to know the QPR board that gave ridiculous high wages to their players? Of course they are one terrible board, with the amount of money that was put into the club and being relegated....

None of these guys are coming back to QPR, they were loaned out because the board couldn't finalized deals properly for them.

Look at their transfer history. The only decent money they got back was Samba, who went back to his original team for a lower price than what he was purchased.

[didierforever 7,349]

Remy is gone this summer.

Park is old. You really think someone going to pay a transfer fee for Park? Also, park is not a starter even though he was captain.

Bosingwa is old. You really think someone going to pay a transfer fee for him?

JC lost his starting role...

Granero sucked

And the Milan cam was always going to leave them....

You don't seem to know the QPR board that gave ridiculous high wages to their players? Of course they are one terrible board, with the amount of money that was put into the club and being relegated....

None of these guys are coming back to QPR, they were loaned out because the board couldn't finalized deals properly for them.

Look at their transfer history. The only decent money they got back was Samba, who went back to his original team for a lower price than what he was purchased.

Hahahaha LOL.

Just can't stop laughing at they could not finalise a deal for any of them. By the way they could finalise a deal for taraabt to get loaned for fulham, call him back and then loan him to milan but could not get a transfer for him or any of the aforementioned players. :lol:

Granero has RM on his cv. He can probably play for a team like cardiff who have medel playong as a DM, yet you are saying that no club in the world wanted any of these players.

Plus let me get this straight. U r saying that if qpr get PL next season, none of these players will play for it???

[Eligius 121]

Hahahaha LOL.

Just can't stop laughing at they could not finalise a deal for any of them. By the way they could finalise a deal for taraabt to get loaned for fulham, call him back and then loan him to milan but could not get a transfer for him or any of the aforementioned players. :lol:

Granero has RM on his cv. He can probably play for a team like cardiff who have medel playong as a DM, yet you are saying that no club in the world wanted any of these players.

Plus let me get this straight. U r saying that if qpr get PL next season, none of these players will play for it???

DO you know how much their wages are?

Why do you think they went to QPR?

Fernando Torres has a pretty good CV, you dont see us making any deals for him do you? Kaka had a pretty good cv and he left on a free transfer.....

Loans aren't difficult. Look at us, we loan all our youngsters out with ease.

Remy is not. Park is not. JC is not. Granero and tarrabat maybe, but probably not.

Take away Samba transfer fee and see what their net is.

I enjoy how you come up with random transfer fee numbers...

[didierforever 7,349]

DO you know how much their wages are?

Why do you think they went to QPR?

Fernando Torres has a pretty good CV, you dont see us making any deals for him do you? Kaka had a pretty good cv and he left on a free transfer.....

Loans aren't difficult. Look at us, we loan all our youngsters out with ease.

Remy is not. Park is not. JC is not. Granero and tarrabat maybe, but probably not.

Take away Samba transfer fee and see what their net is.

I enjoy how you come up with random transfer fee numbers...

First thing first. I have not given any transfer fee number for any of these guys except for remy. So arr u sure its not just anither of your imagination.

If the wages of these players are so high, then how are the loan deals possible. A loan deal would be worse off for the finances of the club as they would have to pay some amount of the wages. And if NONE of these players are going to play for QPR again, then why would the board not just sell them for free. People like park, bosi, derry, JC are not getting any younger, are they? Even if they sell them for free, they would still be saving on their wages. Hence nothing yiu have said makes any sense whatsoever.

Now let us talk about torres since u so think we are not ABLE to sell torres cos of his wagea. Torres was a 50mil transfer which according to FfP is amortized over the course of his contract. Hence his trabsfer fee costs us 9mil a season (5.5 year contract). Lets say he earns 10mil a season. So for one season torrea costs us 19mil.

Now for the sake of argument say we sell him for 10mil, buy a striker for 30 mil, 5 year contract and say 6mil a year wages. Which would mean the new striker himself would cost us 6+6mil a season which is 12mil a season

Now suppose we had sold him last summer, his unamortozed transfer fee would be added to the books which would be 27mil. Subtracting the 10 mil we would get for transfer fee but adding the 12 mil more for a striker, we would be spending 29mil for a single striker compared to the 19mil we are spending on torres thos year.

And now lets consider if we sell torres this summer keeping all the above prices constant. Torres would cost us 18mil as unamortized value, 12mil for the new striker minus the 10mil transfer fee which overall comes to 20mil for one striker next season compared to the 19mil torres would cost. Which is an acceptable loss.

Get it!!!!! We could not afford to sell torres till this summer financially and speciallt cos of FFP. like I said before, get your facts right.

[Eligius 121]

First thing first. I have not given any transfer fee number for any of these guys except for remy. So arr u sure its not just anither of your imagination.

If the wages of these players are so high, then how are the loan deals possible. A loan deal would be worse off for the finances of the club as they would have to pay some amount of the wages. And if NONE of these players are going to play for QPR again, then why would the board not just sell them for free. People like park, bosi, derry, JC are not getting any younger, are they? Even if they sell them for free, they would still be saving on their wages. Hence nothing yiu have said makes any sense whatsoever.

Now let us talk about torres since u so think we are not ABLE to sell torres cos of his wagea. Torres was a 50mil transfer which according to FfP is amortized over the course of his contract. Hence his trabsfer fee costs us 9mil a season (5.5 year contract). Lets say he earns 10mil a season. So for one season torrea costs us 19mil.

Now for the sake of argument say we sell him for 10mil, buy a striker for 30 mil, 5 year contract and say 6mil a year wages. Which would mean the new striker himself would cost us 6+6mil a season which is 12mil a season

Now suppose we had sold him last summer, his unamortozed transfer fee would be added to the books which would be 27mil. Subtracting the 10 mil we would get for transfer fee but adding the 12 mil more for a striker, we would be spending 29mil for a single striker compared to the 19mil we are spending on torres thos year.

And now lets consider if we sell torres this summer keeping all the above prices constant. Torres would cost us 18mil as unamortized value, 12mil for the new striker minus the 10mil transfer fee which overall comes to 20mil for one striker next season compared to the 19mil torres would cost. Which is an acceptable loss.

Get it!!!!! We could not afford to sell torres till this summer financially and speciallt cos of FFP. like I said before, get your facts right.

And where do you come up with Remy transfer fee from, when he has a release clause in his contract. The same release clause he had in France.

Loans are possible because it is a short term commitment. Transfers are not. You can make a mistake loaning in a player like liverpool did with Moses and it wouldn't be a financial burden. Those players are on contract still, just like Malouda was on contract still and collecting checks from us. Did we cut him free? NO. Did we sell him? No.

I don't think you read, but neither JC and Park are starters for QPR and bosignwa i have no clue if he starts.

YEs, MR FFP expert. Apparently, we could not sell Torres, yet we were able to purchase Schurrle, MVG and Willian in the summer. We had a net loss for the past 2 years. We are able to have a million youngsters on payroll though.

We are getting no transfer fee for either Cole or Lampard and got nothing from Essien.

Obviously, you have no background in basic accounting.

[didierforever 7,349]

And where do you come up with Remy transfer fee from, when he has a release clause in his contract. The same release clause he had in France.

Loans are possible because it is a short term commitment. Transfers are not. You can make a mistake loaning in a player like liverpool did with Moses and it wouldn't be a financial burden. Those players are on contract still, just like Malouda was on contract still and collecting checks from us. Did we cut him free? NO. Did we sell him? No.

I don't think you read, but neither JC and Park are starters for QPR and bosignwa i have no clue if he starts.

YEs, MR FFP expert. Apparently, we could not sell Torres, yet we were able to purchase Schurrle, MVG and Willian in the summer. We had a net loss for the past 2 years. We are able to have a million youngsters on payroll though.

We are getting no transfer fee for either Cole or Lampard and got nothing from Essien.

Obviously, you have no background in basic accounting.

Hahahahaha. Dude u really are a piece of work. Do u have any idea about FFP and how it works.

Here read this and get the basic idea of how FFP works and how a deal like essien helps us. By the way, rhe youth players abd the academy is not included in the ffp so we can have a trillion players on our pay role and not be affected plus we dint make a loss for 2 ywars, infact we made a profit of 1.4mil in 2011-12.

Here is the article please read it

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/1/24/5342030/michael-essien-to-ac-milan-the-financial-impact-of-the-transfer

And since u seem utterly clueless about almost everythin, I won't bother giving a reply anynore.