Romelu Lukaku

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

10 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

No it is the exact same thing. Lukaku wants the move. Verratti wants the move to. If u can explain pogba you can explain verratti. 

All involve different teams from different countries. So I am not sure what you mean.

The deal involving MU for sure has any effect, for their sake themselves. Don't see any point why Verratti from PSG to Barca has any connection with Pogba or Lukaku deal, involving Juve, MU and Everton in the first place.

Mind you Everton has accepted the bid, not the player has agreed personal term or something. Yes, he want to leave, but he hasn't tell he will want to join MU yet. What I've wrote is when the player has expressed his desire to move to certain club, it will change the price when that club make a bid.

[Bernard N Y Burgesson 139]

1 hour ago, RoyalBlues said:

No way he is 60m player. Everton bought him 28m from us, unless he win PL title every year for Everton since then, no way his valuation went up that high. Everton set the price take it or leave it price and with his agent help, MU bite the bait, lol. It should not have any effect on other deals at all. Again, that is happened on their own world.

What you are saying does not make sense. If it was in this transfer market that we sold lukaku to everton, we would have probably sold for not less that 40m so I don't get it when people say he is not worth it when he has had 3yrs of first team football. 

This is the idea of Chelsea fc. If they could get their loanees to get playing time like Lukaku has done we would have been selling the likes of atsu traore and Ake for 30m each in this transfer market. Example after Christensen's 2yr loan Chelsea is said to be only interested in bid above 30m for him from inter Milan who have shown interest. 

So let face the music as a club and stop pussying around.

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😂 😂 😂 lol

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

7 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

What you are saying does not make sense. If it was in this transfer market that we sold lukaku to everton, we would have probably sold for not less that 40m so I don't when people say he is not worth it when he has had 3yrs of first team football. 

This is the idea of Chelsea fc. If they could get their loaned to get playing time like Lukaku has done we would have been selling the likes of atsu traore and Ake for 30m each in this transfer market.

So let face the music as a club and stop pussying around.

Lol, too much assumptions in there, that I couldn't understand what is your point.

Read all the reaction in social media and most agree that Lukaku not worth 75m. End of.

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all you guys saying in here lukaku isn't worth X or Y amounts... a player is worth what someone is willing to pay for him, and with the new tv money and players going for inflated prices everywhere, it's natural that prices for top players skyrocket, it's supply and demand

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

600 Pages?

Cristiano Ronaldo, is it you?

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

The deal involving English clubs, inflated price. The deal between two English clubs, madness.

[Bernard N Y Burgesson 139]

3 minutes ago, RoyalBlues said:

Lol, too much assumptions in there, that I couldn't understand what is your point.

Read all the reaction in social media and most agree that Lukaku not worth 75m. End of.

Because most are Chelsea fans and Carma is not. Chelsea wants to partially own players. What I mean is while most use the loan system to get players Chelsea uses it for more money.

Chelsea want to have loanees being star players in other teams so for example if coutinho was a Chelsea loanee because of how established he has become PSG will want to buy him for 60m and who gets the money Chelsea and every drop of it. You get it. There is no space for coutihno cause Chelsea will prefer to sell him than to use him and when they receive the money they will use it to buy 1 first team player and 10 players to fill the loan system all worth just some 35m(barrier as other put it) and it goes on and on. 

Now if you are a club and u buy a player from Chelsea who probably was a failed project in the system for 28m and you fix and patch the player up and give him an instant starting place in your team for 3yrs no competitor and he finally becomes the guy Chelsea were trying to make him be u will milk any club who want him because you gave him the time to develop not them and we all now that time is money. This justifies his price and not only his performance but the time you too to build him.

If we were going for lukaku 2yrs ago we would be paying maybe 40m. Next year his price will go higher whether he wins any titles or not so will dele alli and harry Kane and belotti and dembele and mbappe and the list goes on.

[TheIceMan 596]

Wouldn't be too mad if we end up with Morata + Llorente !!!

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

16 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

Because most are Chelsea fans and Carma is not. Chelsea wants to partially own players. What I mean is while most use the loan system to get players Chelsea uses it for more money.

Chelsea want to have loanees being star players in other teams so for example if coutinho was a Chelsea loanee because of how established he has become PSG will want to buy him for 60m and who gets the money Chelsea and every drop of it. You get it. There is no space for coutihno cause Chelsea will prefer to sell him than to use him and when they receive the money they will use it to buy 1 first team player and 10 players to fill the loan system all worth just some 35m(barrier as other put it) and it goes on and on. 

Now if you are a club and u buy a player from Chelsea who probably was a failed project in the system for 28m and you fix and patch the player up and give him an instant starting place in your team for 3yrs no competitor and he finally becomes the guy Chelsea were trying to make him be u will milk any club who want him because you gave him the time to develop not them and we all now that time is money. This justifies his price and not only his performance but the time you too to build him.

If we were going for lukaku 2yrs ago we would be paying maybe 40m. Next year his price will go higher whether he wins any titles or not so will dele alli and harry Kane and belotti and dembele and mbappe and the list goes on.

The true value of the player, and the price set by a club are two different things. Club who want to make a bid will make an offer not far off from his true value. His club of course can set the price as much as their want. Our point discussion earlier, is that I disagree because Lukaku sold 75m, then suddenly it affect all other transfers. Too many factors involved that set the price of any deal, you just can't say because of one specific transfer it will affect this or that other things.

You are talking like the player value could not be the same or going down. Lol, I'll quit with that.

[Henrique 9,133]

Wow, thats a HUGE blow for Conte. No doubt that laves him in a very very very very bad situation in the club. 

[Barbara 15,149]

Sure. Let's assume this logic is true for a second. Bakayoko, Sandro, Lukaku are all poor, sub par players. Pogba and Stones in 15/16 as well - really poor players to target. 
Let's ignore the fact that since Gourlay left, we have been extremely meek in the transfer window. 

And big companies have their executives aligned with their philosophy... So the change from him to her may coincide with the change of philosophy. Saying the problem is who negotiates the deals doesn't make a lot of sense... A club sets a price tag to a player we are interested, it's not entirely up to Marina to reach the value.
Only here I ever seen someone criticising who discuss contracts as opposed to who decides the targets and the plans B, C, D...

[Bernard N Y Burgesson 139]

27 minutes ago, RoyalBlues said:

The true value of the player, and the price set by a club are two different things. Club who want to make a bid will make an offer not far off from his true value. His club of course can set the price as much as their want. Our point discussion earlier, is that I disagree because Lukaku sold 75m, then suddenly it affect all other transfers. Too many factors involved that set the price of any deal, you just can't say because of one specific transfer it will affect this or that other things.

You are talking like the player value could not be the same or going down. Lol, I'll quit with that.

A players value can't go down when he is a first team player scoring 20 goals. please you can't tell me that a player who is playing frequent football can have his price go down. Even James of RM will cost above 60m when that was the price he was purchased for. Yes Remy will go down but we are not talking about a Remy situation. Playing time affect pricing a lot more that performance. musonda is a good playmaker but no one will buy him for more than 30m cause of playing time. The Brazilian kid real bought has had more playing time than musonda so will be more expensive. They are both similar in style of play and young that's why I am using that example.

Lukaku deal will  not affect all deals but it will affect all striker deals for Chelsea because the options are becoming less and less. If Real Madrid wanted 80m euros for morata, they will probably want 90m now. Desperate times for Chelsea because of how freaking slow we are. If Torino wanted 100m euros they will probably want 110m euros now. So yes it will affect our striking target but all other position should stay the same and I am saying should because I am not so sure.

[Chelsea4 1,521]

We can sign Belotti/Morata/Aubameyang who are all better than him.

[Fernando 6,455]

44 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Wow, thats a HUGE blow for Conte. No doubt that laves him in a very very very very bad situation in the club. 

Manchester United have had a £75m offer for Everton's Romelu Lukaku accepted. How long has this deal been in the making?

I was told this deal has been weeks in the making. It isn't just something they've swooped on today or this week.

 

Jose Mourinho gave executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward his transfer wish list at the start of May and there were four options for each of the four or five positions he wanted to improve. What I'm told is that, from the word go, Lukaku was the number one target for the striker berth.

I think everybody else assumed Lukaku going to Chelsea was a done deal and that allowed them to go about their work under the radar, without anybody even thinking it was possible.

However, Lukaku told my colleague Gary Cotterill last month he knew where he was going, and it seems like the deal was at a fairly advanced stage even then.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/15115/10939471/evertons-romelu-lukaku-to-man-utd-big-transfer-deal-explained

 

We probably was never after Lukaku in the first place.....

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43 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Wow, thats a HUGE blow for Conte. No doubt that laves him in a very very very very bad situation in the club. 

It is indeed. The only way we as a club can redeem ourselves now is by buying either Boletti or Mbappe. Conte is going to be fuming.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

44 minutes ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said:

Lukaku deal will  not affect all deals but it will affect all striker deals for Chelsea because the options are becoming less and less. If Real Madrid wanted 80m euros for morata, they will probably want 90m now. Desperate times for Chelsea because of how freaking slow we are. If Torino wanted 100m euros they will probably want 110m euros now. So yes it will affect our striking target but all other position should stay the same and I am saying should because I am not so sure.

Again it is different the value of the player and club asking price. If MU now making bid for Belotti, obviously they will set the special price. To us will they give the same price? I don't think so. The release clause is remain the same (if any). Yes, of course their asking price for us could go up and down, but not because of Lukaku deal to MU. Completely different case. If we want the player and the player himself want the move, the price will go down for sure, no matter Lukaku or other players price was. They will not insisting the price should be higher than Lukaku deal at all cost.

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5 minutes ago, DDA said:

It is indeed. The only way we as a club can redeem ourselves now is by buying either Boletti or Mbappe. Conte is going to be fuming.

Conte might never of even wanted lukaka we might be working on another striker using the lukaka story as cover just like man utd did you just never no