🇧🇪 Romelu Lukaku

[Norfolkblue1961 56]

On 21/08/2023 at 20:13, Pizy said:

I DO think Lukaku would score a decent amount of goals in this team if he was in shape and highly motivated. Simply standing in the box as a predator would net him quite a few.

But I don’t see how you can possibly bring him back. He would get mercilessly booed by the entire stadium as soon as he stepped onto the pitch. 

I guess the only way I could see that changing is if he issued a sincere apology, say he’s going to work his ass off to help Chelsea, and then delete his social media. Oh, and agree never to do any interviews again.

Trouble is he has never been in shape and properly motivated since leaving Inter

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

Don’t loan him.

Why have a stance of we won’t loan him all summer, only to eventually loan him? To Roma/PSG/Barca of all teams - not one of them done us any favours. Although would be typical of this ownership to go back on their word and do something as soft as that. We’ve become soft on and off the pitch. 

Let him rot with the u21s to someone buys him. Put him in his place. Fuck him.

Edited August 25, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Don’t loan him.

Why have a stance of we won’t loan him all summer, only to eventually loan him? To Roma/PSG/Barca of all teams - not one of them done us any favours. Although would be typical of this ownership to go back on their word and do something as soft as that. 

Let him rot with the u21s to someone buys him. Put him in his place. Fuck him.

Don't think the club anticipated Lukaku tarnishing his relationship with Inter and subsequently, Juventus. 

Given Roma are desperate for a ST and Mourinho would prefer experience leading his line, we could potentially get something in our favor. Either a loan where they cover all his wages + loan fee, or an outright obligation to buy. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,341]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Don’t loan him.

Why have a stance of we won’t loan him all summer, only to eventually loan him? To Roma/PSG/Barca of all teams - not one of them done us any favours. Although would be typical of this ownership to go back on their word and do something as soft as that. We’ve become soft on and off the pitch. 

Let him rot with the u21s to someone buys him. Put him in his place. Fuck him.

Or get a 10m loan fee and his wages paid for an entire season lol 

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Or get a 10m loan fee and his wages paid for an entire season lol 

And then end up in the same situation again in the summer? Then eventually end up terminating his contract or lose him on a free? Not like we are desperate for £10m after the summer we've just had outgoings wise.

Plus the message has always been straight sale - no loans. All summer, even to Inter who thought they could wrangle a deal because he was there the season before.

Why do you think Barca/PSG/Roma are only wanting to do a loan move?

3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Don't think the club anticipated Lukaku tarnishing his relationship with Inter and subsequently, Juventus. 

Given Roma are desperate for a ST and Mourinho would prefer experience leading his line, we could potentially get something in our favor. Either a loan where they cover all his wages + loan fee, or an outright obligation to buy. 

It’s all loans without obligations/options going off of what is circulating. Thats no use.

Option to buy is basically just a gimmick - look at Bakayoko at Milan & Napoli, they suckered us in with this “option” only to not sign him - pretty sure Milan did it twice actually. We did it to Atletico with Saul & Juve with Zakaria effectively.

A straight up sale even for £20-25m would be perfect. Not like we need the cash and he’s one of the last players on these premium Abramovich contracts.

Personally I’d let him rot with the u21s - fuck him. He had the options to go to Inter, Saudi and now Juve which he blew up himself.

We shouldn’t be looking to loan him out because he fucked up/rejected moves. And the likelihood is any loan to Italy will resort in these clubs haggling to reduce the price like Inter did. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,341]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

£10m after the summer we've just had outgoings wise.

Yeah but, he's on what 350k a week? So 10 mill + 18m in wages saved is better than nothing.

[Amad_diallo 17]

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3650467

This is the actual reason why people not all people should be so quick to jump to conclusions and condemn lukaku.

" Get him far away as possible from the youth squad" 
"He's a cancer he's rotten "

Did he shot himself in the foot with that interview confessing his love and missing inter and italy

He certainly did
But the main issue Chelsea have to take accountibility

Why buy a player sign off it, then be so stubborn that you won't even adjust your tactics just a little bit, and of top of that belittle him  " is antonio conte your father "  
Like really how low can you go Tuchel ?

I really think Tuchel is definitely one of the best managers that are out there. But he's character leaves a lot to be desired constant moaning.

[YorkshireBlue 3,341]

28 minutes ago, Amad_diallo said:

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3650467

This is the actual reason why people not all people should be so quick to jump to conclusions and condemn lukaku.

" Get him far away as possible from the youth squad" 
"He's a cancer he's rotten "

Did he shot himself in the foot with that interview confessing his love and missing inter and italy

He certainly did
But the main issue Chelsea have to take accountibility

Why buy a player sign off it, then be so stubborn that you won't even adjust your tactics just a little bit, and of top of that belittle him  " is antonio conte your father "  
Like really how low can you go Tuchel ?

I really think Tuchel is definitely one of the best managers that are out there. But he's character leaves a lot to be desired constant moaning.

No one gives a fuck, trying to make Lukaku seem good on here is pointless, he is a fucking rat stained sack of shit, you would have more luck impregnating a man.

Edited August 27, 2023 by YorkshireBlue

[Amad_diallo 17]

18 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

No one gives a fuck, trying to make Lukaku seem good on here is pointless, he is a fucking rat stained sack of shit, you would have more luck impregnating a man.

I'm here to have grown-up discussion. All that yapping fuck this fuck that is pointless this is not a video shoot for a rap video behave in a proper manner or dont respond at all !

[YorkshireBlue 3,341]

1 hour ago, Amad_diallo said:

I'm here to have grown-up discussion. All that yapping fuck this fuck that is pointless this is not a video shoot for a rap video behave in a proper manner or dont respond at all !

🤣🤣 your here to blow smoke up Lukaku arse hole nothing more, nothing less.

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

11 hours ago, Amad_diallo said:

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3650467

This is the actual reason why people not all people should be so quick to jump to conclusions and condemn lukaku.

" Get him far away as possible from the youth squad" 
"He's a cancer he's rotten "

Did he shot himself in the foot with that interview confessing his love and missing inter and italy

He certainly did
But the main issue Chelsea have to take accountibility

Why buy a player sign off it, then be so stubborn that you won't even adjust your tactics just a little bit, and of top of that belittle him  " is antonio conte your father "  
Like really how low can you go Tuchel ?

I really think Tuchel is definitely one of the best managers that are out there. But he's character leaves a lot to be desired constant moaning.

This is why folk want rid of him though.

As soon as he did that interview he effectively alienated himself from the manager, the upper management, his teammates and the fans. Its not just shooting himself in the foot, its being disrespectful to the team, manager, fans etc. You only do that interview if you don’t want to be there, same with Ronaldo & Piers Morgan. Its the same. You don’t do something like that if you have any intentions of remaining at a club. I mean the fact Tuchel and several of the senior players had a meeting to discuss what to do with him says it all. 

Everything else you’ve said about the club having to take accountability is so so wrong its a joke, I’m sorry but it is. No other way to say it.

And Tuchel did tailor his tactics and approach to suit Rom a bit more, thats arguably why after the first 6 or 7 games, when things started to get a bit tougher, performances faltered and our “apparent title challenge” evaporated. We changed a more flexible, aggressive, hard working (altho inconsistent output) frontline that had been key to winning the CL to playing with a more fixed, passive way because Rom is different from Havertz.

What Tuchel said happened well after Lukaku’s interview so the damage was already done. So again, to blame Tuchel for a quip which happened when the relationship was already hugely strained from Lukaku’s own actions again is just stupidity. I mean you would be on edge and prickly with somebody, who had made it incredibly clear to Inter 6 or 7 months before that he wanted to move here, done an interview unannounced, wishing he didn’t leave Inter because the manager didn’t want to completely reshape his team for a more limited, one dimensional footballer.

Everything that has transpired for his second spell here is from self sabotage. Same with this summer. Ok maybe he phoned an Anderlecht player or whatever but fucking hell, the way he was here 2nd time round, that doesn’t have any correlation to what he did with that interview.

Saying otherwise is just incredibly naive and looking the other way.

[Amad_diallo 17]

9 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

This is why folk want rid of him though.

As soon as he did that interview he effectively alienated himself from the manager, the upper management, his teammates and the fans. Its not just shooting himself in the foot, its being disrespectful to the team, manager, fans etc. You only do that interview if you don’t want to be there, same with Ronaldo & Piers Morgan. Its the same. You don’t do something like that if you have any intentions of remaining at a club. I mean the fact Tuchel and several of the senior players had a meeting to discuss what to do with him says it all. 

Everything else you’ve said about the club having to take accountability is so so wrong its a joke, I’m sorry but it is. No other way to say it.

And Tuchel did tailor his tactics and approach to suit Rom a bit more, thats arguably why after the first 6 or 7 games, when things started to get a bit tougher, performances faltered and our “apparent title challenge” evaporated. We changed a more flexible, aggressive, hard working (altho inconsistent output) frontline that had been key to winning the CL to playing with a more fixed, passive way because Rom is different from Havertz.

What Tuchel said happened well after Lukaku’s interview so the damage was already done. So again, to blame Tuchel for a quip which happened when the relationship was already hugely strained from Lukaku’s own actions again is just stupidity. I mean you would be on edge and prickly with somebody, who had made it incredibly clear to Inter 6 or 7 months before that he wanted to move here, done an interview unannounced, wishing he didn’t leave Inter because the manager didn’t want to completely reshape his team for a more limited, one dimensional footballer.

Everything that has transpired for his second spell here is from self sabotage. Same with this summer. Ok maybe he phoned an Anderlecht player or whatever but fucking hell, the way he was here 2nd time round, that doesn’t have any correlation to what he did with that interview.

Saying otherwise is just incredibly naive and looking the other way.

I tend to agree with you to a certain extent. He was indeed very disrespectful super true my God even I can't or won't defend him for that.

The club shares blame in this also because of the fact they know rom lukaku very well how he plays his strength his weaknesses

My thing is this why buy a player for a second  time for that huge amount of money ? and dont believe in him.

When antonio conte first arrived he , made adjustment's tailored with tactics. With Tuchel It was the other way around. He had a system it was either you adapt or take the highway 

And it had negative impact we saw the second sesson on the attacking players in the end they struggled mighty pulisic,werner, odoi

Its maybe possible that he rom lukaku felt jerked around the second time because the fact of the matter is he was a proven goalscorer both in serie A, premier league and the national team by now  it felt like deja vu all over again for him.

 

 

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

31 minutes ago, Amad_diallo said:

I tend to agree with you to a certain extent. He was indeed very disrespectful super true my God even I can't or won't defend him for that.

The club shares blame in this also because of the fact they know rom lukaku very well how he plays his strength his weaknesses

My thing is this why buy a player for a second  time for that huge amount of money ? and dont believe in him.

When antonio conte first arrived he , made adjustment's tailored with tactics. With Tuchel It was the other way around. He had a system it was either you adapt or take the highway 

And it had negative impact we saw the second sesson on the attacking players in the end they struggled mighty pulisic,werner, odoi

Its maybe possible that he rom lukaku felt jerked around the second time because the fact of the matter is he was a proven goalscorer both in serie A, premier league and the national team by now  it felt like deja vu all over again for him.

 

 

Disagree re Tuchel’s tactics. His tactics brought huge turn arounds in say 75% of the players who played regularly. A lot of the attackers we had with him have all been moved on, so says it all.

Lukaku is a one dimensional footballer thats why it didn’t work. You don’t completely restructure a CL winning team to suit a one dimensional footballer. Same with him at United and again there at Inter under Inzaghi, who preferred Dzeko in all the big games. 

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[OneMoSalah 9,093]

So much for £10m then 😂

But if hes out the door, ok but 90% likelihood thst we will be in the same situation again next summer. Roma won’t  buy him - theres no option\obligation to buy in the deal - and they won’t be able to afford him in all likeliness so don’t get your hopes up for any £30-35m deal.

Will be extremely cut price or the circus around his future again. 

100% Inter & Juventus wont be interested next year too.

 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

The new contract will make selling him easier.

 

[Fernando 6,723]

If so I think next season many clubs will take a stab at him. 

Who knows maybe Spurs will go after him at that price. 

[Amad_diallo 17]

On 28/08/2023 at 10:06, OneMoSalah said:

Disagree re Tuchel’s tactics. His tactics brought huge turn arounds in say 75% of the players who played regularly. A lot of the attackers we had with him have all been moved on, so says it all.

Lukaku is a one dimensional footballer thats why it didn’t work. You don’t completely restructure a CL winning team to suit a one dimensional footballer. Same with him at United and again there at Inter under Inzaghi, who preferred Dzeko in all the big games. 

Sorry for being  late to reply but I've been busy my apologies.

You' re right about,  his tactics. They indeed was the main factor.

But the issue with tuchel it was never about the tactics More so of his persona.

His handling of players sometimes really felt sorry for werner and pulisic.

Under a different manager they could certainly have thrived I believe.

Lukaku " one dimensional" I think youre spot on. Thats my point Tuchel should of steered cleared and said no. Because tuchel dont now how to get the best out of rom lukaku, only antonio conte, martinez does. You have to use him in a certain way.

 

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

5 hours ago, Amad_diallo said:

Sorry for being  late to reply but I've been busy my apologies.

You' re right about,  his tactics. They indeed was the main factor.

But the issue with tuchel it was never about the tactics More so of his persona.

His handling of players sometimes really felt sorry for werner and pulisic.

Under a different manager they could certainly have thrived I believe.

Lukaku " one dimensional" I think youre spot on. Thats my point Tuchel should of steered cleared and said no. Because tuchel dont now how to get the best out of rom lukaku, only antonio conte, martinez does. You have to use him in a certain way.

 

I don’t think Mourinho will get much out of him either again, or even Conte another time round. For instance, I think he would of struggled in our team under Conte in the PL compared to the Inter Milan team he played for in Italy.

Does nobody else think its alarming that only Italian clubs are really interested in him? No other big teams from European league had any concrete links - was rumblings about Barca & PSG but knew that would only happen if it was as good as free for either because why else would they sign him?

Tuchel should of said no but he pushed particularly for Rom - why? Fuck knows. Was a big mistake. Wanted it to work at first but think that blinded some to how bad he was, although was plenty on here who warned about him coming back too.

And even on the likes of Werner & Pulisic, I don’t think it matters how they were or weren’t treated, they are soft mentally. I mean Pulisic sat bitching like an entitled kid about not playing, he was living off of maybe 7 games in a Chelsea shirt. Yet he wrote a autobiography (at what age 22) and made comments about not playing in it. Clearly a little bit soft. Then again Werner, Lukaku… comments about Tuchel’s tactics, how they didn’t suit them to cover up for bad performances also.

 I think the likes of Tuchel, Mourinho, Conte, Pep, Klopp etc, all these guys will not hesitate to tear somebody to shreds if they have to. Its elite level sport, its about how they bounce back from it. The elite mentality guys do whilst the weaker don’t. Tuchel may be difficult but I don’t think at Bayern for instance or even at PSG it made a huge difference because he works/worked with guys who are of an elite mentality. Even here he had some of these. 

[Amad_diallo 17]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

I don’t think Mourinho will get much out of him either again, or even Conte another time round. For instance, I think he would of struggled in our team under Conte in the PL compared to the Inter Milan team he played for in Italy.

Does nobody else think its alarming that only Italian clubs are really interested in him? No other big teams from European league had any concrete links - was rumblings about Barca & PSG but knew that would only happen if it was as good as free for either because why else would they sign him?

Tuchel should of said no but he pushed particularly for Rom - why? Fuck knows. Was a big mistake. Wanted it to work at first but think that blinded some to how bad he was, although was plenty on here who warned about him coming back too.

And even on the likes of Werner & Pulisic, I don’t think it matters how they were or weren’t treated, they are soft mentally. I mean Pulisic sat bitching like an entitled kid about not playing, he was living off of maybe 7 games in a Chelsea shirt. Yet he wrote a autobiography (at what age 22) and made comments about not playing in it. Clearly a little bit soft. Then again Werner, Lukaku… comments about Tuchel’s tactics, how they didn’t suit them to cover up for bad performances also.

 I think the likes of Tuchel, Mourinho, Conte, Pep, Klopp etc, all these guys will not hesitate to tear somebody to shreds if they have to. Its elite level sport, its about how they bounce back from it. The elite mentality guys do whilst the weaker don’t. Tuchel may be difficult but I don’t think at Bayern for instance or even at PSG it made a huge difference because he works/worked with guys who are of an elite mentality. Even here he had some of these. 

It depends if he still got something left in the tank. I read an article yesterday about Mourinho his thoughts regarding securing  the transfer. And he basically said I know what rom lukaku needs It's love.

Maybe a little bit but it seems like the economics of European football has taken it's toll just a little bit covid, the ongoing war ukraine, Russia. The money has shifted to the saudis. 

Not too be to hard on pulisic but you are absolutely right some players seem to be both week physical and mentally

Back to rom lukaku, he has that bulky frame like wayne rooney does. Those players need to be extra careful with their weight especially after 30 they dont tend to have a long shelf life