Thibaut Courtois

[Kieran. 6,317]

Could have already made his mind up to move on this summer. Who knows.

[Pizy 18,368]

14 minutes ago, Jason said:

Beaten at his near post...again. F**cking joke! Starting to think he is overrated.

Starting to think so, too. 

He's a brilliant shot stopper and great at coming for crosses (even with this he's struggled this season) but the rest of his game is weak. His distribution is simply dreadful and he's really poor with the ball at his feet compared to many modern keepers.

Only reason I'm not too hard on him is because of the shit on a stick he always has in front of him. We've seen what he can be with a competent defense in front of him so I'm hoping we build that over the summer. Having Ivanovic, Cahill, and a declining Terry shielding you is disastrous. At the same time, De Gea has had a huge array of shit in front of him and has still done magnificently. 

[Amblève. 4,995]

5 hours ago, Essien19 said:

Was it really his fault? I don't think so, he made a couple of good saves today

Which is basically what he has been doing lately; the nutshell-kind-of-thing. A few good saves here and there only to fuck it up in the end and the worrying thing is he has been conceding goals the same way on almost ALL occasions for which he has been criticised during the past few weeks. There's simply no excuse for that.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Calling out my pal Tom (he's actually a pal of mine so I'm not being sarcastic), do you still think Courtois isn't worrying!!!!!????

 

edit: btw I mean @Tomo not @Stingray  

[Polo7 3,496]

Has been utter shite since injury. Give begovic a run, sick of the same near post goals over and over.

[11Drogba 2,000]

This is how you react when a 23 year old goalkeeper makes mistakes while in other threads you want Guus to play youth.

[Amblève. 4,995]

43 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

This is how you react when a 23 year old goalkeeper makes mistakes while in other threads you want Guus to play youth.

Young players usually ACTUALLY LEARN from their mistakes. Courtois has been doing the same shit for weeks now. The world's a lot greyer than what you imply.

[Essien19 1,415]

2 hours ago, Amblève. said:

Which is basically what he has been doing lately; the nutshell-kind-of-thing. A few good saves here and there only to fuck it up in the end and the worrying thing is he has been conceding goals the same way on almost ALL occasions for which he has been criticised during the past few weeks. There's simply no excuse for that.

It's always the same at the end of the day.
A striker can miss a couple of sitters and is still allowed to get away with murder when he scores one goal. The life of a goalie is different, one fragility is enough to put him under the microscope.

Now taking a look at the recent situation, Payet ran through Chelsea's midfield and was able to play a perfectly timed pass, Carroll was onside and completely alone, no defence whatsoever,
so he had all the time in the world to wrong-foot the keeper.
Make no mistake, Carroll is a proven Premier-League hitman, multiple clubs paid the big bucks for him, he knows how to score goals and in front of the goalie and being alone,
there's not much you can do to prevent him from scoring.

I know that in recent times there were occasions where Courtois should have done better, it's sometimes a similar thing happen all over again, but why so serious?! You say there is no excuse for that, okay, but what's your solution, would you bench him?
I for one don't want to take away his opportunities to learn and improve his game.
Sometimes a person especially a young one needs more time, i think we all been through such a situation in life and appreciated the patience others had with us.

That's the mentality i want to see from Guus and therefore i'm a bit disappointed that he doesn't award more chances to young guys.
We need more young guys out there who will make most certainly mistakes but that's the way they learn the fastest.
We need to be ready for next season and because there's already nothing left to play for us,
we can run some benchmarks and maybe while doing it crush Tottenham's title hopes,
that's not too bad, i think.
The flow must return, the fun, the attacking, we want more and more.
That's one of the reasons why we let go off Jose, so change the playbook, just do it, Guus, no one will to be too harsh on our prospects.

[scargo 75]

His positioning is the worst.

[FabHazard 655]

His positioning is really horrible when coming out to stop one-on-one....it is like he does not know where his goal posts are...his near post area is completely open when he came out yesterday..similarly he conceded that cavani goal..Don't know what christophe lollichon is doing...His distribution is really very poor compared to keepers like trapp,ter stegen,bravo,neuer and de gea...Thibaut still has lots of time to improve...but ATM would not mind begovic to start over him

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

This is how you react when a 23 year old goalkeeper makes mistakes while in other threads you want Guus to play youth.

The difference here is while Courtois may be only 23 years old, he is a lot more experienced than most of the young players out there and as Amels alluded to, he has been making the same mistakes over and over and over again. Doesn't seem to be learning from it!

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

5 hours ago, Amblève. said:

Young players usually ACTUALLY LEARN from their mistakes. Courtois has been doing the same shit for weeks now. The world's a lot greyer than what you imply.

This.

[It's too big 625]

Which other keepers are out there? I didn't watch much of him at atletico, but how much better was he at Madrid? 

[11Drogba 2,000]

 

7 hours ago, Amblève. said:

Young players usually ACTUALLY LEARN from their mistakes. Courtois has been doing the same shit for weeks now. The world's a lot greyer than what you imply.

He is experienced but still very young for a goalkeeper. Fans who want to see the young players play should not just expect to see mistakes but the same mistakes repeated imo, yet the best goalkeeper of his generation is on a bad form after an injury and and he is called as donkey, not a top goalkeeper, overrated etc.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

8 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

This is how you react when a 23 year old goalkeeper makes mistakes while in other threads you want Guus to play youth.

I doubt people will want Guus to play the likes of RLC and Traoré if they'd be giving the ball to the opposition for no reason or consistently shooting it out wide and never be in a good position.
Most of us want Guus to play the younger guns simply because we believe they are better than the usual lazy idiotic starting XI.

Courtois is no better than Begovic.

Hell, i'd wager Blackman could defend the near post better than him at the moment.

[11Drogba 2,000]

7 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

I doubt people will want Guus to play the likes of RLC and Traoré if they'd be giving the ball to the opposition for no reason or consistently shooting it out wide and never be in a good position.

Thibo's performance is far away from goalkeeping version of this and I am talking about the overreaction to a young player when his performance drops.

But you are right I guess, most of the fans who want Guus to play youngsters want that mainly because they think we might get better results/play better with them not because they want our young players to gain experience.

[Polo7 3,496]

1 hour ago, 11Drogba said:

Thibo's performance is far away from goalkeeping version of this and I am talking about the overreaction to a young player when his performance drops.

But you are right I guess, most of the fans who want Guus to play youngsters want that mainly because they think we might get better results/play better with them not because they want our young players to gain experience.

Constantly conceding near post goals is one of the worst things a goalie can do. Hence that description is perfect.

[Tomo 21,733]

15 hours ago, Kieran. said:

Calling out my pal Tom (he's actually a pal of mine so I'm not being sarcastic), do you still think Courtois isn't worrying!!!!!????

 

edit: btw I mean @Tomo not @Stingray  

My stance remains the same, it takes me a long time to give up on a aayer especially one with proven world class pedigree, said the same with Diego pre Christmas.

Although having said that I wouldn't be averse to dropping him for a few games in normal circumstances but doing that now will probably only serve to send him to the exit door.