YouNameIt 1,511 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 And rating him on equal level or ahead of one of the greatest and most consistent keepers around when he hasn't proven he could be relied upon in a relatively exposed defensive unit is equally stupid and illogical.You dont get it do you?We have to take this step sooner or later. Bringing Thibaut in as 2nd keeper isnt an option. Just look at the times every great keeper has been sold and swapped for a new one. We have to think about the future.And I dont really agree that our defense is exposed. No team is flawless, but look at our performance against United, Liverpool and City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 And rating him on equal level or ahead of one of the greatest and most consistent keepers around when he hasn't proven he could be relied upon in a relatively exposed defensive unit is equally stupid and illogical.so let me get this straight, we should loan out thibaut to fulham/sunderland to see how he performs and then take a decision if he is capable of playing for us!!!! i mean this has got to be the weirdest statement i have read in a long time. and also, your statement shows exactly how less u have seen of courtouis and ATM over the last 3 years. also i found this very amusing, lukaku is not good enough for us cos he played in a "weaker" team like wba and scored 17 goals, hence he cant play with us cos we dont play the same style. and now courtious is not good enough for us cos he is playing for a strong team and has not proved himself in a weak team. hahahahaha... i doubt if neuer would be able to make it here. BlueSunshine and Mouri_Matic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 All you guys need to know now is that he will NOT GO ANYWHERE ON LOAN. He will be our no1 from the summer or be sold, simple as that. He already said this, he wants to sort out his future by the summer at the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martina 210 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I personally don’t like how some of the young Belgian players communicate with Jose through the media - now they are too young to know better so I must assume it’s their advisers, but still. I don’t think it’s very wise. Why can’t Courtois be tested in the EPL first is beyond me. He’s never played for Chelsea and he has never played in England and he demands to be our number 1 GK? Let’s hope he can handle the pressure better than Lukaku with his infamous penalty. There is another factor some of you seem to underestimate - experience. Gilvorak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I personally don’t like how some of the young Belgian players communicate with Jose through the media - now they are too young to know better so I must assume it’s their advisers, but still. I don’t think it’s very wise. Why can’t Courtois be tested in the EPL first is beyond me. He’s never played for Chelsea and he has never played in England and he demands to be our number 1 GK? Let’s hope he can handle the pressure better than Lukaku with his infamous penalty. There is another factor some of you seem to underestimate - experience.La Liga isnt exactly the SPL or the League of Ireland ,,, He is proven there Reddish-Blue, AswinR and Stingray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Majesty 43 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I personally don’t like how some of the young Belgian players communicate with Jose through the media - now they are too young to know better so I must assume it’s their advisers, but still. I don’t think it’s very wise. Why can’t Courtois be tested in the EPL first is beyond me. He’s never played for Chelsea and he has never played in England and he demands to be our number 1 GK? Let’s hope he can handle the pressure better than Lukaku with his infamous penalty. There is another factor some of you seem to underestimate - experience.So if we would buy Neuer, we should first loan him out to Stoke for experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 yes they would. arsenal dominated teams defensively with jens lehman as their keeper because they had defensive beast like Viera,gilberto silva,Ashley cole,Sol Campbel and Toure in their prime and a solid defensive tactics to get the best out of those players which made them difficult to penetrate and covered lehmans flaws as a keeper making him look worldly. Once he no longer had that shield as a result of Viera and cole's departure and the dramatic decline of Sol Campbell, toure and Silva, his hidden flaws was laid bare for all to see and wasn't so special anymore.You have to be the worst keeper of all time not to atleast have a decent clean sheet record in a team like leti. even in the unbeaten season they conceded a fair few silly goals, (for example Gudjohnsen in the Champions League qf) if they had Cech there figures would have been on the level off ours the yeas later. Whenever i have watched Leti games withAsenjo the defense played much more within themselves knowing that theres an error in the keeper, the same happened to us when we lost Carlo and Cech vsReading. Plus Courtois played with a weak defense at Genk, i saw the last 5 minutes off their title decider and he made 3 top saves in that period alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 No, that's you trying to negate someone's argument by simply jumping to extremes, which sadly doesn't always work. Lionsden is simply making a point that Cech deserves to be treated fairly and not just cast aside like a leper. It isn't a simple case of "yeah, let's just sell Cech". I see what you're saying in regards to sentiment.This is a decision for José to make, and I don't envy him.My point was extreme, what im trying to say is i want the decision to be made in what is best for the club going forward. If Mourinho chooses Courtois, it's not out of disrespect for Cech (just like choosing Cech in 04 wasnt disrespect for Carlo) it will be because he believes it's best for Chelsea going forward. There are many ways we can respect and appreciate Petr without him playing for Chelsea indefinitely until he decides otherwise. Continual evolution is the key to a successful and stable club (after 10/11 we know that as much as anyone ) and if Jose believe this change is the next step in the process then he has my backing. BlueLion. and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I personally don’t like how some of the young Belgian players communicate with Jose through the media - now they are too young to know better so I must assume it’s their advisers, but still. I don’t think it’s very wise.Why can’t Courtois be tested in the EPL first is beyond me. He’s never played for Chelsea and he has never played in England and he demands to be our number 1 GK? Let’s hope he can handle the pressure better than Lukaku with his infamous penalty.There is another factor some of you seem to underestimate - experience.To wich team in the epl would you loan him?Can you send a top 5 gk who has won the europaleague,supercup,spanish cup to a mid table team in the epl?Thats quite some experience he has there already at the age of 21Agreed he doesnt have any experience in the epl but is that such a big deal for a gk? didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm one of the people hoping Courtois will get the spot, but I don't blame folk that want to go on with Cech, just casting him aside just seems unreal at this point.There were always gonna be 2 camps here, we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out xnaed, Gilvorak and Korea 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted January 13, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 13, 2014 Oh, so he lacks experience now.I guess winning the Belgian league as an 18 year old with a semi-crappy team, winning a Spanish cup, winning a European cup and supercup, practically freewheeling through the CL groupstage and winning the Spanish keeper of the year award means nothing, because English balls make different curves.I see.If you want to loan him to a team like let's say Stoke or Newcastle, he will not do it. If you loan him to a team like Everton, they will become serious contenders for a CL spot, if you loan him to one of the top teams there's a big chance you'll be giving them a title. Mouri_Matic, Barbara, guddy69 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xnaed 17 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Would hate to lose Courtois, already one of the top goalkeepers and will get even better with age. But Cech is only 31, still pulls off world class saves and has been immense all these years as we have grown into one of the big teams in the world. I'll never be able to make up my mind with this decision, lets trust Jose and hope its the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Having an excellent game against Valencia so far. One of the rare occasions since he's moved to Athletico where they have been under pressure for long periods of the game and he's being constantly tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 and people say that he has it easy. WOW!!!letting him go would be a MASSIVE mistake!!! MASSIVE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 You think he lacks experience?HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA goalkeeper is the last thing that "needs to be tested in the PL.I guess that if Casillias wanted to come to an English club he'd have to be loaned out to Aston Villa first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 and people say that he has it easy. WOW!!!letting him go would be a MASSIVE mistake!!! MASSIVE.Like Valdes at Barcelona or Casillas at Spain he has it easier than most GK's. Atleti have by far the best defense in football and they are the most positionally disciplined and aggressive team in football. Every player on that team works their bollocks off from Costa to Juanfran.And the saves he made today were routine at best. The saves in the first leg were a lot more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Think we have to sell Cech, his a legend but unfortunately we have to look long term which unfortunately cech does not give us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 What the fuck is this shit? How can we even think about SELLING ONE OF THE BEST GK IN EUROPE?http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/atletico-confirm-chelsea-want-25m-permanent-courtois-move-1432435Have we learn fuck all from Matic recently? This would be one of the shittest move in Chelsea history along with Robben, remember when we sold Matic Essien was the best CDM in the world, now Courtois already on par with Cech and we are fucking thinking about selling him?I love the direction we are going in but this move would be a massive fuck up on our part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 THey can have him if they give us Aguerro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 THey can have him if they give us AguerroSorry to disappoint but that dude is playing for City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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