Guest justin_3d Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I will feel a lot safer with IvanBut he is not explosive when Bosingwa was. We need someone like that or like Dani Alves. And VDW fits that bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I would rather get an explosive right winger like Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I would rather get an explosive right winger like SanchezI'm curious, with Torres in the team, and if we get Neymar, or continue with Malouda, can't Sturridge play on the right wing with a 4-3-3 taking over Anelka spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 we need at least one specialist winger. and Neymar is not coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Sturridge is not an out and out winger but I still believe he can do a lot better than anelka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 we need at least one specialist winger. and Neymar is not coming.Ok so Neymar not coming and neither Sanchez. He has agreed to move to Barcelona. He wants to go there.So look elsewhere. Who do i see??? uhmmmm Douglas Costa? Don't know much of an explosive winger then Neymar and Sanchez. Guess who ever takes charge hopefully Guus comes with a good winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Ok so Neymar not coming and neither Sanchez. He has agreed to move to Barcelona. He wants to go there.So look elsewhere. Who do i see??? uhmmmm Douglas Costa? Don't know much of an explosive winger then Neymar and Sanchez. Guess who ever takes charge hopefully Guus comes with a good winger.Barca have not wrapped up with sanchez yet. Have not watched Costa much. My choice is mata a formation like this .............................Back four + cech......................................-----------------mikel-----------------Josh-------------------------------Ramirez--------------------Pastore-------------------------Mata-------------------------Torres-----------------------------------------or .............................Back four + cech......................................----------------------------Mikel-------------------------------Ramirez--------------------Pastore-------------------------Mata------------Sturridge-------------------------------------------------------------------Torres-----------------------------------------But neither Pastore nor Mata linked with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Although I wanted Sniejder instead of Pastore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Barca have not wrapped up with sanchez yet. Have not watched Costa much. My choice is mata a formation like this .............................Back four + cech......................................-----------------mikel-----------------Josh-------------------------------Ramirez--------------------Pastore-------------------------Mata-------------------------Torres-----------------------------------------or .............................Back four + cech......................................----------------------------Mikel-------------------------------Ramirez--------------------Pastore-------------------------Mata------------Sturridge-------------------------------------------------------------------Torres-----------------------------------------But neither Pastore nor Mata linked with us.Yeah Mata and Pastore looks good. That would be all I say we need if we where to get them. It is why i don't like the Lukaku link. Yeah he is a player for the future, but don't need him right now.Lukaku and Sturridge might be great to see, but for the new season we need a winger and creative midfield more.Now if Roman will get the winger, creative midfield and Lukaku i would not mind. Although I wanted Sniejder instead of PastoreSneijder about to be 28 and Pastore what like 21? We want to lower the teams age. Pastore makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Barca have not wrapped up with sanchez yet. Have not watched Costa much. My choice is mata a formation like this .............................Back four + cech......................................-----------------mikel-----------------Josh-------------------------------Ramirez--------------------Pastore-------------------------Mata-------------------------Torres-----------------------------------------or .............................Back four + cech......................................----------------------------Mikel-------------------------------Ramirez--------------------Pastore-------------------------Mata------------Sturridge-------------------------------------------------------------------Torres-----------------------------------------But neither Pastore nor Mata linked with us.spanisch newspapers are writing about mata going to chelsea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Sneijder about to be 28 and Pastore what like 21? We want to lower the teams age. Pastore makes more sense.He just turned 27 a few days back. That is stil 5-6 good starting seasons.Funnily enough I was just reading Sneijder's wiki page and someone has vandalised it."Current club Manchester United He joined man utd on 13 june for 30 mil" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent 403 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 vd Wiel aint really explosive believe me, maybe on the clips you'll find on youtube. But if you watch him for 90 minutes he's not more then a decent player. The last half of the season in the Eredivisie (The Mickey Mouse League) he was even terrible. All Ajax fans will agree that with me. He was tired and didn't come as often up front as he did earlier. He also made more mistakes and I think he's way below Chelsea's standards. The problem is there are not many good right backs only Dani Alves is pretty good, also Ivan is. So why should we change that? We have Ivan as RB with Bosingwa as back-up even PF. Central we have D.Luiz and Terry with Alex as back-up even Bruma. LB we have Cole with Bertrand and v Aanholt. I don't see why we should need another defender. I would go for some creativity on the midfield, and give the youth a chance as back-up. We can't ruin a player like McEachran, can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 also Ivan is. So why should we change that? We have Ivan as RB with Bosingwa as back-up even PF. Central we have D.Luiz and Terry with Alex as back-up even Bruma. LB we have Cole with Bertrand and v Aanholt. I don't see why we should need another defender. I would go for some creativity on the midfield, and give the youth a chance as back-up. We can't ruin a player like McEachran, can we?Completely agree give the youth a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 The problem is there are not many good right backs only Dani Alves is pretty good, also Ivan is. So why should we change that? We have Ivan as RB with Bosingwa as back-up even PF.Because Bosingwa is shit and Ivanovic ain't a right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Because Bosingwa is shit and Ivanovic ain't a right back.You seem to forget that we won the double while having Ivanovic as a right back, and that this season he was one of our best players, if not the best. I don't think he deserves to warm the bench, and as Vincent said, there are not too many right backs around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 You seem to forget that we won the double while having Ivanovic as a right back, and that this season he was one of our best players, if not the best. I don't think he deserves to warm the bench, and as Vincent said, there are not too many right backs around...Maybe.But he can't cross, he can't dribble, he is slow. All the contrary of a modern right back. My bigger concern is when he faces pacy winger. Against United and Tottenham, he has shown that he was too slow too handle Bale and Nani.And at the end of the day, we gotta have a real right back. To play players out of position is a real disease at our club...ps : don't get me wrong, i ain't saying he's done a poor job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 vd Wiel aint really explosive believe me, maybe on the clips you'll find on youtube. But if you watch him for 90 minutes he's not more then a decent player. The last half of the season in the Eredivisie (The Mickey Mouse League) he was even terrible. All Ajax fans will agree that with me. He was tired and didn't come as often up front as he did earlier. He also made more mistakes and I think he's way below Chelsea's standards. The problem is there are not many good right backs only Dani Alves is pretty good, also Ivan is. So why should we change that? We have Ivan as RB with Bosingwa as back-up even PF. Central we have D.Luiz and Terry with Alex as back-up even Bruma. LB we have Cole with Bertrand and v Aanholt. I don't see why we should need another defender. I would go for some creativity on the midfield, and give the youth a chance as back-up. We can't ruin a player like McEachran, can we?It's funny cause i remember some exact same argument being said about Suarez.Not sure if it was you or some other guy, that watches the dutch league. But they said the same exact thing you are saying about VDW, and look at him now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,543 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Folks are saying Bran aint a RB even after more than two years at the position for both club and country(has also won RB of the year in the EPL award) yet are happy to state that Luiz is a CB when he`s only played the position the same amount of time that Bran has played RB.interesting..i personally would let Bran keep the spot as his, with Billy Clifford being his understudy..if Billy don`t pan out there are other options that could be tried out already at the club.if you can`t ever give a kid the chance to become a man then he`s never gonna prove himself to be one...is only a football game we talking about throwing these kids into, not some war where younger kids than these have already been killed. you get 16 weeks training before you go to war,these kids have been training to play just football for 10 years and more. some folks sound like overprotective mums,when it comes to the youngsters in the academy...yet if Billy Clifford had played like he did last year in a shitty league some of those same people would be saying we should spend millions on getting him i`m sure.i love Ferriera for his loyalty to the club but i think it`s got to the point now where like with Anelka and Kalou,he`s blocking the path to the future. when his play these days does not warrant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 i personally would let Bran keep the spot as his, with Billy Clifford being his understudy..if Billy don`t pan out there are other options that could be tried out already at the club.if you can`t ever give a kid the chance to become a man then he`s never gonna prove himself to be one...is only a football game we talking about throwing these kids into, not some war where younger kids than these have already been killed. you get 16 weeks training before you go to war,these kids have been training to play just football for 10 years and more.Totally agree with you mate! Why can't we use Billy as an understudy when we see Dalglish using 18year olds to start as full-backs! It's the most logical decision to have Billy Clifford & Ryan Bertrand as full back under studies now. No need to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Maybe.But he can't cross, he can't dribble, he is slow. All the contrary of a modern right back. My bigger concern is when he faces pacy winger. Against United and Tottenham, he has shown that he was too slow too handle Bale and Nani.And at the end of the day, we gotta have a real right back. To play players out of position is a real disease at our club...ps : don't get me wrong, i ain't saying he's done a poor job for us.I understand what are you trying to say, and I wouldn't object if we bought a right back of Dani Alves' quality, but unfortunately we can't. Van der Wiel had a bad season, and imo Ivanovic can do a better job then him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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