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I see that gravel voiced twat Sean Dyche has been moaning about not getting enough respect. The worse thing is he refer's to himself in the third person if there's one thing Iggy Doonican hates it's that.
'Antonio Conte came in at Chelsea and he got commended for bringing a hard, fast, new leadership to Chelsea, which involved doing 800 metre runs, 400m runs and 200m runs.
 
'Come to my training and see Sean Dyche doing that and you'd say 'dinosaur, a young English dinosaur manager, hasn't got a clue'. So is it perception or is it fact? I have no problem with it. It's the reality I say.'


 

First, Shakez, it's so nice to see you posting. I've been away for a long time (no time to even breathe let alone read, post or even watch Chelsea). Not that I don't welcome new members - if they are nice I surely do, but still seeing some guys from the days I posted more often brings a smile to my face, and you my dear, are certainly one of them
Now about the double training sessions - I'm sure it's only until the team reaches their best physical condition and an attempt to start the season as strong physically as we could.
Last year we as a club - whether it was a Mourinho's option, a club option or both - made a test by giving players longer vacation time and starting very light on training during preseason. Mourinho addressed it a few times at the beginning of the season and back then I thought it was a valid attempt, but one I would assess when the results of such decision appeared. I did assess it and before the whole Mourinho implosion got out of control, I was starting to second guess the decision of letting the players rest more and start preseason with light sessions. I pointed that out as one of the reasons why things weren't working out in the first two months. We were a couple of step behind the other teams in terms of competitiveness and physicality.
Fact is a lot of things - most directly linked to Mourinho's presence - brought us the the deep hole we dug, but I think we were physically subpar. It was a mistake to give players more time to rest. Unfortunately this is not affordable in modern football, not only because of the bloated calendar, but because the intensity of the game increased a lot. The most physical players from 20 years ago wouldn't last much in nowadays football before running out of steam.
So I fully support the decision of taking heavier, more intense sessions, even if twice a day (I'm going to assume one of those two sessions might be a bit lighter than the other). I'd say when the team is running on full throttle physically we can go back to one session a day - or keep it on alternate days, as we'll rarely have midweek football this season.
Players needs to get ready physically, but also mentally for real competition and the aspect of a demanding manager, that is breathing on their neck, pushing them the farthest they can go prepare players not only physically to endure the challenges of an unbelievable busy calendar, but also have them mentally ready earlier as well. I hope we never ago take the longer vacation time,lighter preseason route again.
I don't exactly know what is the floor you're giving me, but I hope is from a stage because I'm on vacation and I won't sweep anything (bad joke I know, but I'm the queen of bad jokes)
I think it's going to be paramount for our success this season - and consequently Conte's too - the fact that we won't have any European football to play at all. I mean, of course I would have preferred if we were playing Europe, even Europa League, but as we are not, let's make the most of it and I think that gives Conte the best scenario to work. After the season we had, there's obviously less pressure than usual. We were 10th, so it's not like people are going to demand us to win the title. Most fans would be happy with being Arsenal for a season and just aiming the 4th place and assuring UCL next season. So when bad results come - and they certainly will - media and fans won't be on Conte like they would if we had a standard Chelsea season last year. Unfortunately the stakes aren't as high as they normally are, but that's working to Conte's advantage if you ask me.
Not playing during the week not only helps the players being fresher, but also allows Conte to make more tests with formations, tactical approaches, etc. When you have two or three days before your next match, you can't work on those things as much as you want because you need to get ready for the next game. With the next game being 6, 7 or even 8, 9 days later, Conte has time not only to train drills, but also to make tests. Even though the lack of European football sucks, I think it's going to be the one fact that will help Conte the most.
And let's not joke ourselves, even during my most avid Mourinho defending days, I complained about how he seemed to have dropped some of the drilling aspect of training. It seemed like he became sloppy in training certain kind of moves with players, how to position on free kicks - both defending and attacking. How many times have we read or heard him saying that he told Hazard he could go there and do his thing and it feels like except demanding a whole much of work rate from all players, Mourinho seemed to have settled for letting them to their thing most time and having only a few organized, trained (or as we say in Portuguese, rehearsed) plays, moves, composition, etc. We relied a lot on Fabregas killer eye for an assist, Willian's energy and pace, Hazard's talent and Costa giving-it-all attitude.
A team as big as us certainly needs its manager to go beyond that. The manager we need can't let players do their thing and only demand work rate from them. They need to be trained in the most strict meaning of the word, drilled, pushed, guided and if that's the case, even taken by the hand. I want to see Conte stopping the training motion simply to correct our defense and midfield positioning. I want him to be livid on players when they aren't paying enough attention or keeping to the plan as they're supposed to, I want him to push, push, push as much as he works, works, works. Those players aren't as bad as they looked last season, the thing is they weren't pushed enough and most of them became the worst version of themselves because let's not fool ourselves, the intensity and demands of modern football I mentioned above are insane and if there isn't someone breathing on their necks to give more and go further - they, like any other human being on their place - will just fall into their comfort zone. Most of them probably do it without noticing and without being able to leave that place by themselves. Modern sports - not only football actually - keep demanding more, and it's a while since the demands went above the 'natural' disposition. Yes, they're paid much more than they should just to play in this level, but money doesn't reset how your brain works and the exception is the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo - players that are constantly pushing their limits by themselves, but that's a very particular and personal trait, we can't expect - let alone demand - every player, no matter how much money the club gives them to have their brain reset to just make their body go beyond its natural limits.
And now I said too much, but that's entirely Chelsea Buzz fault. He gave me a whole floor, what was I supposed to do with it as I refuse to do any more sweeping on my vacay time? Complaints direct to him please
Kidding of course, I may not be the queen of the longest posts anymore, but I just had a lot to say... as usual for women and even more so for me. Good thing most of you can cope with me already
The ones who can't yet for they're new here, chop chop and learn (bad joke again)

Emenalo already preparing for Koulibali

You do realize the players themselves don't decide when they come back right ? It actually makes sense that they get longer off then Batshuayi since both Courtois and Hazard played every minute of the tournament while Batshuayi only played 21 minutes in total.

I saw this too from a Juve fan on another forum:
Skeleton or not, you won’t enjoy watching Conte’s team in pre-season. He will run them ragged with double seasons daily to improve their fitness.. He lost his very first pre-season with Juve too, and won a couple with uninspiring 1-0s. Be prepared for a shock. You will see a completely different Chelsea against West ham on the first day of the season in comparison to what you’ll see during the pre-season. I still remember the first game of the season against Parma, 90 minutes of tireless non stop attack.

Most appearances by a foreigner.
Most games captained by a foreigner.
Most trophies ever won at Chelsea.
You could be fooled into thinking he was a Balon D'or candidate in 15 years.

Very good loan move for him and I hope he tears the league apart. He was excellent for our U21/U19 team last season. Got around 16 goals IIRC which is excellent. Now is the real step up. Men's football and the Championship. Their manager is right. He really is one of the most exciting young English talents around. People just don't know it yet. Kind of a late bloomer but he has tons of potential and I think he will do bits at Huddersfield.
Like I keep saying, can someone with sense just move this to the player's thread please. He is a pro footballer and when he is taking the Championship by storm next season me (and other people) will be looking to comment on his performances in the player thread. That is where people expect to find it.

THIS! We are in good hands.
Conte:“I really appreciated the effort of all the players. We have to work on a tactical level and find the right solutions for this team.
“We certainly need to work and shake out some skeletons from last season, that is without doubt. In some situations, especially at the start, the team was very deep and too defensive. That’s not what Chelsea are about.
“We need to change the mentality in that sense, but I have at my disposal a group of lads who are ready to work.”

For me, too. There's something about him that makes me think he is going to be a hit here. Can't wait for his presser tomorrow. 

After making an idiot of myself when AVB took over I try and remain on the cautious side when it comes to new manager's, but Conte is making it really hard for  me.

Must also be praised for his loyalty  -he chose to stay at a club with no CL football

Antonio Conte when he turns up to training and sees Marko Marin still plays for us...

So nobody is talking about Clinton ? She has basically been found guilty of treason against the State, but she is not prosecuted. The FBI has found 110 emails that contained secret informations and seven of them were "top secret" informations. Moreover she poorly handled her emails and because of that she found herself in positions where enemies of the US could have easily hacked her mail box and stole the top secret informations.
She should be charged for trahison. And if you chose to believe her defence, i.e. "I did not know it was secret informations", then at the very least she should be charged for extreme incompetence and should be deemed ineligible for a high public position, especially the presidency of the country. She was the Secretary of State back then, she should have know better than anyone else that it was secret informations, even if there were no big red stamp that read "top secret". Thus if she did not do it on purpose, then this old woman should be deemed as unfit for the presidency.
As a Fox News reporter has pointed out, if you let your children inside your car on the parking lot, with all window closed, and that he is harmed by the effects of the sun, you will be prosecuted even if you intended to leave him for one minute and you somehow got lock in the elevator.
But of course, you have the US president that starts to attend to Clinton campaign at the very same moment — what a lucky coincidence.
You also have James Comey, the FBI director, that sweats like a fat American in the desert, when declaring that Clinton should not be prosecuted. He is not only sweating, but he is also looking on the edge, ready to implode in anger and scream "arrest this fucking traitor of old witch". Yet, despite a ten minutes long "testimony" that incriminates Clinton, Comey concludes by saying she should not be prosecuted... Poor man, he know he is doing wrong, but what could he do ? The most powerful US politician is sitting symbolically and physically next to Clinton — the US Establishment is clearly saving its candidate.
 
 

I'm hoping he instills a proper philosophy for us. It would be great if our players trained their attacking movements so that on the pitch, they look like they know what they're doing instead of looking lost like we did a lot in the last two seasons (passing around then giving ivanovic for a poor cross comes to mind, or passing to hazard and hope he dribbles everyone)

Thought ill break the habit of the day and talk about the manager who's actually with us.
20, 24 and 23 were the amount of league goals Juve conceded in his three season's in Turin, Juve conceded 47 and 56 goals respectively in the two season's before he took over, last season we conceded 53.
Hopefully he can get our numbers down to that rate, or even lower if were lucky.

Think the only way you're gonna avoid the quotes is staying off the Internet.

It depends really.
If we are at absolute worst between 6th and 8th, with some positive signs on display and enough encouragement that when he gets rid of the players "not in his direction" things will really pick up (a bit like Poch in his first season at Spurs) then I reckon he will get the time.
If we are one point off relegation in December, with only two players in the whole squad on any sort of form, and the way we are playing making Roy Hogsdons spell at Liverpool look like Barca under Pep, then yes he will be sacked and rightly so.

Imagine Zlatan scoring against Citeh and running all the way to Guardiola, gesturing to him what a serial cunt he is.  That would be a sight to behold.

I won't be surpised if he flops hard. 

Lol losers that's democracy for you. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose and everyone's vote is worth the same. Or is democracy for you to repeat voting so many times so you get the result you want? Just fuck off with this bullshit please (not aiming this at you petr).

ı hope to see leo bonucci at chelsea this season.İt should be very expensive transfer for che but worth it

You are one of my favroite posters on here but posts like that annoy me, this thread was quiet as shit when he went 10 games without a goal at the end of the season, 2 goals against Ireland and this happens.
As for today, he looks brutal against teams committing men forward leaving themselves exposed for a counter, but the problem is, in the premier league not many teams will play that way against Chelsea and every time I've seen Lukaku face a parked bus or an astute defence he's been absolute wack.
For me he's like a striker version of Ramires in the sense that has world class attributes that in certain circumstances can be a massive help, but has too many flaws to his game, meaning for one time he amazes you, he will frustrate you a further 7 times.
I hope he makes a good career for himself, but I genuinely hope we stay clear of him, £65m for Lukaku is a brutally depressing thought.

I can't understand people. Even if he was from Afghanistan with muslim parents, the guy was born in America, had a job, had a first wife, then suddenly pledges allegiance to ISIS and kills people. It's just scary to imagine how it feels when someone you know on the street can go on a killing rampage at anytime in his life. 

And you don't think that if Mou wants him yet again he won't surround him with players that will get the best out of him? Of course he will.
Sell him if we get both Nainggolan and Kante, but no way on Earth sell him to United. You can't send that message to rivals that your players can be had. Do this and what's to stop City or United from making a run at Hazard or Wilian?
Business between anyone that can potentially stop Chelsea from winning the league should be strictly off limits. Not even a discussion should take place.