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Pple are forgetting one thing lacking in our team for years. It would be sad to see us miss out on fernadinho. He is the ball passing defensive midfielder we never had every top team has one. Madrid- xabi alonso, modric Manutd- scholes Barca- busquets, xavi Mancity- yayatoure Bayern- schwenstieger Juventus- pirlo Chelsea- ????? Mikel and ramires are good but have no foward passing sense or accuracy. If mazacar is marked, we need someone from deep to take the pressure off them with killer passes. Answer- FERNADINHO

I was just refering to their similar movement in the box and the fact they are both dutch. Van nisterooy too is right there.

I hope goal.com is right this time. If not we can snatch a poor man's vanpersie in huntelaar. Huntelaar is good in the box(exactly what torres is lacking, no movement in the box)

I think this november/december slump we have recently is because of tiredness. The way to fix this is to rotate the players like ferguson. By playing pple on form(moses) and giving others enough substitute time to make an impact(sturridge, marin) We have to adopt the system that ferguson uses to avoid long bad spells like we are havin now. I remember when ferguson dropped rooney earlier this season, bcos he was playing badly and now he has fit into the team. He is now bringing on hernandez and his time on the bench has spured him to play better. Our usual november slumps is due to tiredness, we need to rotate now more than ever.

Azpi-iva-luiz-betrand Mikel-ramires Hazard-oscar- mata Moses No harm trying moses in the strike role now. Torres needs a rest anyway for juventus. Marin as sub. Edit: but we know torres is starting so half of our attacks shall be halted by lost balls again.... Smh

Azpi-iva-luiz-betrand Mikel-ramires Hazard-oscar- mata Moses No harm trying moses in the strike role now. Torres needs a rest anyway for juventus. Marin as sub. Edit: but we know torres is starting so half of our attacks shall be halted by lost balls again.... Smh

Nobody should bash RDM till he has a complete squad. To be fair on him, the manchester clubs have one thing we lack in our team. Abundance of strikers. And a dm that is a very good foward passer.(Scholes, toure) People who can come in and rescue the team with small motivation from the manager. Until we sign falcao, cavani or lewandoski then I can reserve my bashing a little. The minor problems RDM has are 1. He doesn't try to make a substitution early enough to impact the game before its too late. 2. He doesn't attempt new things so that he can fix obvious problems(torres). Maybe trying moses who doesn't lose the ball upfront instead of torres won't hurt us. 3. The way we play doesn't look like we practice movement in training but it looks like we just wait for our playmakers to do magic. This affects us when the playmakers have an average day and we don't have anyone(drogba) to turn up to bail us out. He takes time to realise his errors like the ramires in the wing so maybe some more time and he will fix it.

I wish he could. How I have missed a striker that could make the opponents fear. Torres has lost his fear factor and defenders feel so confident of owning torres. If drogba was here his presence alone would create spaces and chances for the team.

The point most of us are saying is that, torres is playing bad so maybe putting him on the bench for sturridge will give him a reality check to step up his game and play better. We are not saying sturridge is better, we are just trying to motivate him because so far, pampering him when he is playing badly is not working. I know drogba's presence slowed him down but sturridge does not have drogba's proven talents and could be the inspiration that torres needs to spark his season. I think this strategy will work for torres, since sturridge is not a drogba that would intimidate him.

I've calmed down after the match. But I was attacking torres bcos of how many times he lost the ball or the attack was halted when the ball went to him. Holding up the ball should be basic for any striker and if sturridge is given a chance and he doesn't give possesion to the opposition more than he passes to team mates like torres, then I would take him over torres anytime. But he hasn't had the chance at all but I think moses can play there. RDM just has to be concerned enough to try somthing else instead of hoping torres comes good till the 82nd minute.

I've calmed down a bit after our draw. We have two missing pieces, 1.) a cm that can pass the ball, and 2.)a striker that can at least hold up play. 1.) There were some situations where if scholes or modric or yayatoure was in our team, they would find a pass to the attackers from deep. Mikel and ramires are both average passers, if they could spray long foward passes, then our play will improve greatly. Especially when building from the back, mikel or ramires cannot give an assist from deep or a defence splitting pass. People like (xavi, pirlo, schwinstiger, modric, derossi, yaya toure, alonso) 2.) The other option is the striker, we can't ignore the importance of a striker that can hold the ball and bring the teammates into play. A perfect example was lewandoski against madrid, you could see how he was so strong on the ball and could pass to the AM's of (reus or gotze or kuba) and make sure there attack is flowing. But torres ruins half of our attacks(42touches and 26 turnovers) so it looks like mata, hazard oscar are having a bad day because they didn't score. I can see where your coming from, about us depending on our playmakers to play matches. But I think we press high as part of our strategy, but not as effective as dortmund yet, but we will get there. But if we solve these two pieces I mentioned above I assure u we will play far better.

Yes..... RDM clearly doesn't have the balls to bench him for poor peformances, so I guess the fans can force the issue and help the coach know torres is terrible. We've booed sturridge before. This is chelsea fc not torres fc. Out of 46 touches today, 26 were turnovers just shows how useless he is and on top of that he can't score and earns 200,000pounds a week. What the hell?? Does he expect mata to score for him in every match and not once in a while bail us out like hernandez or dzeko?

Yes..... RDM clearly doesn't have the balls to bench him for poor peformances, so I guess the fans can force the issue and help the coach know torres is terrible. This is chelsea fc not torres fc. Out of 46 touches today, 26 were turnovers just shows how useless he is and on top of that he can't score and earns 200,000pounds a week. What the hell?? Does he expect mata to score for him in every match and not once in a while bail us out like hernandez or dzeko?

Just horrible stats... Everytime the ball was passed to him I had this feeling he will screw it up... Unbelievable, if u can't score then u should at least hold up play!!! I can't believe pple thought he played well.

We need to start booing torres each time he loses the ball. Its getting ridiculous.... How can he lose possesion each time he touches the ball. Just pass the fuckin ball and run into the box FFS.

This is another bad miss. Mata should have scored. Torres is a mudafukin cunt, bulshit of a player, I would take kalou over this piece of shit... Freakin bulshit, RDM should have taken off torres for moses instead of oscar...... Liverpool took control imidiately oscar was off.... Did I say torres was a cunt???

It would be alarming if his positioning cannot get him into at least 4 shooting positions per game. Because from what I have been seeing so far, he has 2 shots per game. I just can't understand if he has lost interest in scoring. The dribbling problem is because he has lost his strength to hold up the ball and bring others into play, so he tries to go head on and loses the ball anyway. He should shoot more so that the defenders can have something to think about he did it from range against newcastle and scored. He should try it more, RDM just has to have a talk with him and stop pretending everytin is ok.

We know he can't trap the ball better than heskey, we know he has the poorest passes in our team(70% completed) but what I can't understand is why he doesn't shoot as the striker. Why don't the team encourage him to shoot more, I mean oscar shoots more than torres. Torres took only one shot against shaktar, how can u score if u don't shoot? RDM is shying away from this instead of having a talk with torres before we start losing games because of his incompetence.

Yes that too. But cavani even has a better goal scoring ratio. 79goals in 2 years playing for napoli. #Boss

Always thought he will add more to our team than falcao and cheaper too, without the pressure of a high price tag. His height and strength reminds me of drogba, but he still finishes like a boss. Outstanding goal ratio, the only strikers at his level are rvp and falcao.

I think I understand what u mean. Its a tough one, hazard has the best close control in our team, very hard to get the ball off him. But he is good at drivin at players, which is why RDM plays him at the wings to attack full backs. If he develops his shooting more, he could be moved there in the center and oscar to the right.

Injury has really slowed him down. He looked so good in the pre-season games even looked as good as hazard. Hope he takes his chance in the world club cup.

In: cavani/falcao/lewandoski In: fernadinho(great upgrade in the pivot, passes as good as oscar and makes energetic runs like ramires. He reminds me of yayatoure, he even is a better long range shooter than mikel and ramires. Would be a steal if we get him)

Because of our swansea draw, this is a must win game. I can't bear seeing manutd getting further from us. And we've lost 6 of our last 8 league games against them and even lost our last 4???? We need to beat this liverpiss

Fernadinho is the advanced form of ramires. He is so good with his passes and he dribbles past people too, he even has a stronger size. I am a big fan of his passing, it cut through our defence a few times. Vital 3 points. No one screamed louder dan me when moses scored. Bring on liverpool!!