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Congratulations our your FIFA 11 nomination super frankie lampard. Truly a legend. :cfc: :cfc: :cfc: #teamofchampions

Congratulations on your FIFA 11 nomination hazard :cfc: :cfc: :cfc: #teamofchampions

they rarely give him space now. And he has no balance so he easily loses possesion under pressure. He needs silva's strength on the ball

You again??

Yea I'm sure scoring 4 champions league goals in 5 games is not enough...

Yea I'm sure scoring more goals than benzema, higuain, ibrahimovic while playing for athletico is not good enough. Even scoring in back to back europa league finals and against realmadrid last season is rubbish too... And iniesta acknowledging his talents is probably just a misunderstanding..

Sandro is a far better tackler than mikel. I can count the number of times I saw mikel make a sliding challenge, that's how few he even attempts that. Anytime we take off mikel, we are better attacking. I'm not sure of defending but we are far better pressing opposition like manutd does, and they don't even have a chance to attack us. With mikel on, the attack is reduce and so we soak pressure instead. I just wish he was more imposing of himself in possesion.

I think benitez is too addicted to playin 4-2-3-1 and won't play that. But we need plan b during matches, so 4-3-3 tinkering could be vital too.

I know ramires is not a good passer, but he makes up for this with his energy to stop opposition counters. Trust me, ramires has stopped a lot of counters for us and that is a massive thing to lose. I can't say this for mikel, so is his role just to sit in front of the defence and pass to the full backs?? I don't see that as a good enough contribution when we attack. He should step up his overhead passing game, he is too poor at that. He is too poor at shooting from distance too. Pivot is always one box to box and one creative midfielder. Our box to box = ramires Our creative = ??? All the opponent do now is to hassle hazard and mata and we can't do any thing while in possesion. I am watching our matches and when we are in possesion I know nothing will come of it because mazacar are closely marked so we mainly create from the counter. Some times the pivot is free for a shot and can't shoot on target. But if we have someone that can shoot too, defending opponents will be fewer on mata and that will leave space for mata. Ramires is doing his box to box role well but the role mikel is playing is just not enough in my opinion. He needs more influence on the possesion side of our game(long through balls or shooting) he should have one. I can tell you that RB will realise this very soon when he tinkers the squad..

I get you, but I'm in no way blaming mikel. I just see ramires as the more important partner in the pivot right now. If you remember the cup game against manutd, in the first half mikel and romeu played together. And the pivot was damn poor, manutd dominated those periods with more chances and romeu played badly. But in the 2nd half ramires came on for mikel and all of a sudden we were by far better with romeu-ramires in the pivot. Another game was against westbrom, he was taken off and we dominated them till the end. All our central pivot players play bad with mikel but are good with ramires that's what I've noticed. Lampard makes foward runs, but with ramires behind him, he can recover and make game saving tackles. So this will make us more attacking assured that we hav a better tackler in midfield. Sometimes we need more bodies foward to push opposition back and pressure from the top. If we have a counter attackin stopper like ramires we could try that sometimes so that we can have a genuine GOAL THREAT from cm that we have lacked since ballack.

Our pivot is okay but coud be helpful if they offer threat when we are in possesion. So that when mata and hazard are man marked, we still look dangerous and offer goal threat from deep. This pivot offers nothing in attack during possesion. 1. They both can't give overhead passes 2. They both can't thread through balls to the striker 3. They can't shoot on target(vidal, lampard, yaya) 4. Mata and oscar have to come very deep to take possesion and it makes them tired. The temporary solution could be in our own team Our best chelsea peformance this season was against norwich(who beat arsenal and manutd). In that game, we played lampard in the pivot. Why haven't we tried lampard-ramires combo more?? Lampard foward runs can be covered by ramires speed to recover and tackle when we lose the ball. Our Pivot Ramires negative is his poor passing, but he 1. Is one of the best at stoping counters, like makekele 2. Is effective when we are on the counter 3. Is a better tackler than mikel Mikel just sits in front of the defence and is strong on the ball, nothing more. 1. He has no energy to run and stop counters, too slow. 2. He can't pass long balls which lampard is far better at. Ramires provides energy so what is he providing an extra body?? 3. He can't shoot on target even if his life depended on it. 4. He offers no threat when we are in possesion. Question Lampard and romeu look bad playin beside mikel, what if its because of mikel rather than lamps?? Why don't we try "ramires-lampard" more often. Everytime mikel is taken off, our domination of the game seems to improve. And any counters are handled briliantly by ramires. I have realised that ramires actually makes mikel look good and not the other way around. Our best pivot for now before we get a regista or KDB comes back could be LAMPARD-RAMIRES. Lampard 1. Is a better passer 2. Can give long passes, (remember the one on one for torres against norwich) 3. Shoots on target and scores from deep 4. Is better with a faster partner like ramires 5. He is intelligent in making late runs into the box. 6. He makes tackles too, remember the champs league final, and against messi, and then the through pass after for ramires goal?? Mikel would have passed back. The lampard-ramires pivot will not be the best in the world but I think its really the best we have now especially against smaller opposition. What do you think?

I think rami makes mikel look better in the pivot. His energy is good, he is even the far better tackler in the midfield. Yesterday he tried some long balls to the flanks. Was impressed with his peformance again.

He can't rely dribble dangerously again. Is not playing up to his potential. It feels like he's too scared to lose the ball when takin on players so he passes instead. Not the same confident guy in the begining of season for sure.

Better 2nd half

Tevez in on... Fuck

I'm faster than fernando torres... No joke

Mata is having a terrible game

Mikel is passing poorly

Luiz has started with his stupid passes again

16th minute "ONE DIMATTEO" CHANTS Should fire our boys up :cfc: :cfc:

I have a feeling that oscar will be moved to the pivot. RB likes long balls from midfield, and the only person right now is oscar. So since ramires is a better aggressive tackler than mikel, mikel will drop to the bench. How I wish mikel was a better foward passer of the ball but just shielding the back isn't enough when we need goals these days. Anderson against qpr is a perfect example of what's needed to win matches in a tougher premier league.

I think benitez will use him in the pivot in some games

That's some nice anaysis on KDB. But he could mature in the future, I think its too early to call him back. Unless we are not getting anyone in that position. OP- INS: 1st options- cavani or falcao, fernadinho or fellani 2nd options - lewandoski or jovetic, Paulinho or bring KDB back OUT: torres, malouda

Spot on there. Chelsea have a big problem in the pivot and most people think our pivot is okay. The big problem is there is no goal threat from the pivot. No killer modric like passes or spraying passes to spread play or quicken counter attacks. The problem with lampard is that, he doesn't fit with mikel in the pivot. But I noticed our best game this season against norwich(who beat arsenal and manutd) lampard played with ramires there, and they were excellent. We were a big threat going foward with lamps timing and ramires had the speed and energy to stop counter attacks on his own. This is where mikel is worse than ramires, because he offers no goal threat(he can't shoot on target in his life) and can't give long passes. All he does is sit in front of the defence and ramires is even better than him at tackling. Because of lampards runs foward leaving mikel exposed he was dropped, but if it was ramires-lamps, the outcome would have been better as we know who the better tackler is.. You are also right that lamps is more intelligent than mikel who never sees hazard runs to try an overhead pass. Lampard would definately be better too in that department. If lampard plays with mikel in the pivot, lamps doesn't play well. But with ramires, they complement each other and could be better than the mikel-ramires combo...

The way man utd came back to be leading is what chelsea needs to learn. Freakin fighting spirit and constant pressure for 10-15mins