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If they don't bring 45-50mil, or do a swap for rooney, I don't see why we should sell mata to manutd. We won't hear the end of it in the press when he succeeds there. And we would end their problem of finding top players for them.

I just didn't expect sterling that came from the youth team just last season, to be so much better than moses was not expected at all. know but I was just disappointed at how poor moses has been too.

Let's not stop piazon's progress. He has a brazilian level workrate and has a very good vision. I think he could be a fantastic player for us but he should not become our 5th AM cos he will suffer for games at his young age.

Lukaku was good in the first half to me. He linked up well, had good movement. I didn't watch the 2nd half. From the comments above it seems he had a bad second half.

We have our highest points tally in the league since the ancelloti era. Vast improvement this season in that aspect. And this season even though we've lost some games, the only team that outplayed us in a match so far is basel and bayern (in extratime). If I bring out the list of last season, we won't finish today. Mourinho fixed one annoying problem we had last season. We could never win any match anytime mata didn't play or if mata was on bad form. Our system was dependent on giving mata total freedom. The right system for a top team to depend on people or give freedom, are for stikers who score at the rate of a goal a game.(Messi, ronaldo, suarez, ibrahimovic). And on top of this, high pressure system has proven to be very successful in the last few years (barca under guardiola, athletico madrid now, dortmund, bayern last season, even Brazil NT do this) We are adopting it which is the better system for the future and I'm sure we will reap the rewards in years to come.

Wow that explains a lot. I was wondering how he just completely benched moses like that. And when liverpool are struggling they can't even bring him on for some minutes

Wow that explains a lot. I was wondering how he just completely benched moses like that. And when liverpool are struggling they can't even bring him on for some minutes

I can see the difference. Like in the carling cup against arsenal. But he also had great games in the wings against tottenham and southampton at the bridge. I just don't think mourinho has told him to play center back and ruined him. (Coming to think of it, mata plays in the wings for spain too) I think if we had very clinical players in the team who score their every chance like mancity or madrid, mata would play far more games. Ozil played like mata (but he is faster on the counter) but ozil had ronaldo to guarantee 2 goals a match because of far better finishing. But because we can't kill off teams with our poor finishing, there is always a danger to lose points. And this is a main problem for mata to me. Mourinho can't sacrifice defensive duties in the midfield because we are not clinical enough in front of goal to do that. So this is why oscar plays middle more than mata.

I'm quite shocked moses can't get a game ahead of sterling. Is that how poor he was?? Mourinho will find his left footer on the right wing next season, maybe dimaria gets frustrated at madrid. He won't just buy anyone for the sake of it.

The point I'm making is. Mata used to play as a winger from his youth level, in valencia, and in his first season with us. RDM changed him to the center. Mourinho changed him back to his valencia wing position because he doesn't like to lose the midfield battle. When we say he is playing bad because he is playing in the wings is not true because mata is not a one dimensional player that must stay in the center of any team in the world or he'll be playing 30-40% which is benayoun level. That was his original position.

Lol. Your having fun today

I just don't want to see mata in a manutd shirt. Anywhere but in England pls.

I just don't want to see mata in a manutd shirt. Anywhere but england pls

Lol. But if it was just hardwork, shurrle will be ahead of hazard or willian. So no

But mata will still end up playing on the wings Not a good move for us and for him.

So he is basically the same level as benayoun on the wings??

Annoyed me when we didn't get modric, I knew we won't get another chance for a while to get a creative CM. We even gave far more than he was worth and the just frustrated us. We ended up getting mereiles instead as a stop gap. No one was as happy as me when we stole willian from them and they got lamela instead. :lol2:

MATAMATIC must start

Noooooooooooo!!!! He's no longer the kraken. Won't be able to scare anyone anymore in that.

Matuidi just has high workrate. But now we have ramires and matic for that. If we want to completely improve, get a modric. Is the surprise BIG signing Islam Feruz?

Time will tell if our back four became solid when we played Azpi-cahill-terry-cole Ivanovic comes back and we conceded more chances in this match than the past 4-5 games without him combined. Time will tell

So many prematch rituals for eto The last time a player scored a hatrick for us in a chelsea vs manutd match, we won our first league title, 60yrs ago

I just heard jose had surgery on his elbow on skysports WTF?

Madrid had guaranteed 2 goals from every match from ronaldo. So mourinho could sacrifice his tactics and still win when madrid conceded many goals. Here we have eto/torres/ba, we cannot go all out with that system bcos we will lose more than win when we miss all our chances as usual compared to madrid. Its unfortunate, I love mata's assists but were moving on to a pressing and quick transition system. Which means the slow guys with low energy (KDB, mata) will find it hard to fit in. That is why luiz even plays ahead of mikel in the big games (before matic comes) against manutd and liverpool, because he has more energy than mikel. I really thought mata will cope because he was naturally a winger for valencia and in his first season with us under AVB.

He had a poor game, but I think it was because hull and manutd were massively pressing in the first half. They even nullified hazard and willian attacking and for the first time we depended on our striker to bail us out. When both hull and manutd tired out in the 2nd half, he got better. They obviously couldn't continuously press like that for 90mins.