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WHAT?

It struck everyone by surprise, it was way worse than RDM. The media is expeculating Scolari, Muricy or Pep. not looking good for us.

MANO MENEZES HAS BEEN SACKED!

True, I am more realistic though. The big changes and philosophy wont happen so I want the small one at least... There are ways to transform football in a transparent and healthy business. American institutions does it for decades. I am not crazy expecting it can be done anywhere but I am sure it can be done in England. Some leagues (NFL and NBA) have an insurmountable budget for clubs, but I dont like that. I prefer MLB, it has a budget for players and staff wages but it is called a soft budget, if the team wants to spend more than the limit they have to pay the same amount that exceeds in taxes to be divided equaly to the res of the league. For instance, FA decides that no club can spend more than 150mi/season and Chelsea has a 169mi payroll, it has to pay 19mi on taxes or 1mi for each club in the EPL. Since American franchises dont spend money on trasnfers (it just dont exist), they dont have a budget for it. In that case FA would have to create both a transfer limit for the amount of players and money. Lastly, it would have to allow some financial loss (so teams can invest in future growth). The rules on FFP first years would work amazingly well with a budget system. This would still benefit the big clubs, but it would also leave space for the small clubs to get a share of the fun. Since teams wont be able to get 30 high price players, some small team could grasp one of them. West Ham would have money to keep Tevez, Wigan to keep Moses, etc. Also, since the Boards wont have such freedom, the fans end up being more involved (clearly felt in the USA). Again, this is only possible in places like German and England because it already has a very well profit divison system and a decent and powerful federation. It still has the capitalism gene and owners and players making money, but at least it is healthy and more balanced.

@Fulham Broadway, the whole is way deeper than you have described. I wont describe every wrong way of managering a club becasue it would become a book, but the problem is not this new type of quick burning money success (PSG, ManCity, Chelsea), it is that nobody in the world has found a healthy way of running a football club. You could argue that the German`s Clubs do it right and that Barcelona do it too but I would disagree. The Germans got their finances straight but that does not mean it is completely fair, clubs like BVB and Bayern Munich have more than double of the income of half of Bundesliga, creating a huge gap between the teams. Just like FFP, it prevents craziness but also prevents investments. Barcelona is ruled by the fans and it hasnt helped much. La Masia produces some real good talents but it is not a factory and you cant control when it is going to flurish (90s for instance). They are in some serious finance problems as well. Their president had to sell the jersey for the first time in 100 years and they cancelled their plan to cover the Camp Nou, so it is not all flowers. It is not a matter of choosing between money and authoritarism or the fans. The whole football concept is wrong. There are not enough rules and consequences to it... The only way I can see going foward is something very similar to the MLB.

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I think they were waiting for some bombastic media story so no one pays attantion to them...

I 100% agree with your post. Everything is just a cycle though, we did some big mistakes and we are getting the consequence of it (unbalanced squad, media bashing, Benitez, etc). Remember when RM was buying all the wrong players at the begining of 2010 and when Mourinho was always losing composure at Barça games? Look at them now: great squad, manager, trophies, CR7, etc. You can make the same case for Bayern in their transition from 2001 to 2009 and with Barcelona from 1995 to 2004. It happens with almost all the teams. We had a excellent period with Mourinho and it only survived the terrible moves because it was a fucking talented team. It had their last hurrah with Carlo and RDM and now it is a rebuild period. We let our squad get old without rejuvenating it and now with are on construction mode. It will take some time but I am sure Roman and the Board have learnt somethings with those mistakes. I think it is ok to criticize Abramovich. Now, I dont agree people are right wanting him out.

Well, if he only gets into the refs` head, that would be enough for me... He made Benitez (and other coaches) busy with him and not with their team. That is geting into their heads and he did it more than a few times. Also, if the media start asking questions about him in the press conference, he already got what he wanted (distraction).

Impolite? Mate, this is not a debate club. It is wrong, it is football, sorry! I hate SAF more than anything, but he does one of he finest job of protecting Manure and getting into the opposition`s head.

NoddytheAdlingtonBlue- Difficult to argue with being top of the league. I think we will improve if Mancini ever decides what his best XI is and plays them together regularly LOL

@Muzchap, only with you believe Sturridge AND Torres will be leaving in January. I honestly dont think so, I think Sturridge will go and Torres will stay (Benitez of all people getting rid of him?). With that in mind, we will buy a ST and someone else in someother position Rafa thinks it is necessary. I agree we are going to see a very busy transfer window though.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN... Alright, I will surely be banned after this but, am I the only one who thinks he is right talking about RDM undeservingly losing his chance to win CWC?

Is he entering somekind of boat? Anyways, congratulations Donni. Thank you so much for the sig! :blue scalf: KTBFFH :blue scalf:

@Muzchap, we all know Roaman is a bit crazy (ok, very crazy). I am pretty sure someone leaked his list and those 3 players are in some order of preference. It is like this with every position we need. We want a RB/RW/CAM/Whatever, when the press gets any information, it is always that we are going to buy the 5 best players out there at the same time. It ends up being one of the options...

@TorontoChelsea, you do realise he wont do it and this is just so we have fun, dont you? It is not easy to transform a historical average team into one of the biggest on Earth in less than one decade. It does not only take a lot of money but a lot of time and learning. Roman is already being more careful with the money he spends and he is keen in finding the most desirable long term manager and helthy finances. This:

I liked it, I just dont believe Rambo and Luiz are worthy of a dream team lineup. Subs though... This is what I dream of:

I DREAM THE DAY I HEAR MY GRANDSON TALKING ABOUT HOW HE WANTS HIS TEAM TO PLAY LIKE CHELSEA ONCE DID! FUCK BARCELONA! I get very angry when people say we need to play like Barça. There are many ways to play great football without imitating the cunts. I dont want us playing with a flase #9, either because we already are and because I am more traditional. Brazil (70/82), Santos (60s), RM (60s), Ajax (70s), Flamengo (80s), Milan (90s), Palmeiras (96) and Chelsea (05-09) all made quite an impact and will be rembered without in any way conecting with Barcelona. I want a quick, compact, lethal and creative team, not some passing bullshit without a proper finisher. I want a team that we can all relate to EPL and Chelsea. Imagine a good manager putting together the likes of Hummels, JT, Cole, Vidal/De Rossi, Oscar, Hazard, Mata and Falcao/Cavani and transforming them into legend. It will stay on forever and we wouldnt have to listen to "Chelsea vs Barcelona" comparisons. Yes, I want us to have the same historical reputation Pep Guardiola`s side have. I only want it to be our identidy, not someone else`s.

Alright, I would be lying saying I didnt go nuts when reading the article. However, we would fucking implode. 5 STRIKERS??? I want a CB (Hummels), DM (Vidal, De Rossi, Busquets), ST (Falcao, Cavani) and an All Around Attacker (Jovetic, James). Nothing more than that because we also need to integrate our youngsters. I also want Luiz and Torres out.

I dont want to admit it, but the more i think about it the more I believe he is the right manager for us.

Falcao to win his 3rd consecutive UEL?

1. I wrote it with an S just so everyone gets reminded it is BRASIL. 2. If we are going to play the stupid "who wirtes correctly", it is "I criticize"... 3. You are delusional and controversial sometimes. 4. There is nothing wrong with criticizing Hazard or anyone else. You were being over critical of something most disagree though. That is where the rage comes from. 5. I really hope you were mentioning the Belgian dude I wrongly insulted. TC members need a good view of Brasil, we are not helping...

Why all the hate towards Roman? I mean, he has that fucking czar gene inside him but that is about it. He does a lot of good things for the club and all he does is being authoritarian. Transfers: He does interfere in transfers issues, but he is more flexible than Levy and Perez, he listens and talks a lot with his managers. Academy: It was sloppy at the begining and he did got involved more than the normal but now he is leaving it to the right staff. Facilities/Marketing: He has put the right personel and (I guess) no one questions his immense help in this department. Passion: Ask how any Loserpool or Manure fans feels about it. Managers: I think he started greatly and after sacking Mourinho it went downhill. All his sacks until Carlo payed out, you can argue he only had to sack them because he made terrible choices (and I agree) though. When Carlo came, he was supposed to be Mourinho 2. He was supposed to be our long term manager and drive the renovation, it did not work. It was a clear rift between them and, of course, he used his power to axe Ancelotti. This was his worse mistake as our owner (imo). In 2011, he saw the need for renovation and trusted the young and promissing AVB to do so. At one point he had to choose between the manager and the dressing room. He, once more, made the right choice and we all know what happened. 2012, this gets tricky. We dont know how RDM and Abramovich made the contract. I am not saying he did right to fire Di Matteo, but we cant judge. If Roman told he was going to sign RDM but he would have to constantly prove himself. Roberto would know a bad sequence would cost his job. If, a big if, those were really the terms, there was no bad treatment. It is still a very wrong decision, but not disrespectful. Managers 2: Rafael Benitez is a fucking fat spanish waiter. He is the best possible choice right now, though. We will have to wait to judge him and our Russian Czar. Managers 3: Overall I think it was not as bad or as disgraceful as a lot of fans think. It was certainly not great, but it was successful. We need to get some stability and I think we will... In resume, he has been better than worse. He is the owner any team could wish for so suck it up and move on.

LOL, ARE YOU CRAZY? Not even Brasil makes double digits when playing China, Zimbabue, etc.

Not fighting. There is a big difference between a nationality conflict than me raging about one single comment someone made. It was all resolved in 2-3 posts. We all need to chill, me and you. You are being very pessimistic lately, cant even say Roman Abramovich...