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Yes, 2 more that will not be as expensive and demand that much attention nor have big egos, because City learned their lesson!!! Negredo knows he is a backup and Jovetic is actually very versatile and young...

Yes, and that is why we bought Schurrle and brought KDB back, to have depth and compete on a high level! 50-60 games is not even that much, Brazilian teams usually play 80 games per year and they cope with a lot less quality and options. Dont make it as if this was the end of the world... 30 million on another attacking player is a luxury we didnt need (what we had was enough to competitively fight for trophies). Not that Willian wont add quality and balance things out. It is just that we have bigger holes in our squad that could have taken advantage of those 30mi much wiser than on a RW that is still a bit of a gamble. Dont try to play the victim and act like you are trying to view what is best for the team and I am not trying to defend what is best for Chelsea. I am as much of a fan than anyone is, so shut up! People can have different views and still want the same result, what is best for CFC...

LOOOL, people are ridiculous for not believing in this transfer? :lol2:Manchester City had to let go of 2 of their 4 strikers, one haing his shirts burned by fans and the other almost fighting Mancini, and you say it did no harm to them? About ManUtd, comparing RVP with Willian is the most unintelligent thing on Earth. They only had one great CF in Rooney and the rest was no more than average to good (Berbarov, Hernandez and Wellbeck), so it made a lot of sense to buy another striker. They payed less than what we are paying, but they bought a vastly more experienced player with a proved background in the EPL. Even though: they had to sell Berbatov, give Chichiarito no game time and made Rooney the most unhappiest superstar in football! So tell me, what do you expect to happen with our 7 options for 3 starting spots? Dont tell me you are 100% sure Mata is safe... EDIT: Peace, I quoted you because my quote to Cech actually fits with what I would answer you...

Well, Jose said he needs to do it, so...!

Mata has a much better chance of being involved in a deal with Rooney than us loaning Oscar or KDB. People are just blinding themselves for the risk of losing Mata so they can justify us hijacking Willian.

He needs to do medical and obtain a work permit before we can sign him...

What about hijacking Fernandinho or Witsel (last season) instead of another attacking player?

Mazacar doesnt work, and that is why I have been saying Mourinho will drop Mata for KDB so the trio can have balance! And yes, I agree that if you have the opportunity to add more quality you do so. But you cant argue you first tackle your big issues before polishing what is already good. You are a game designer, right? Do you improve your good graphics if you have problems with gameplay (or vice-versa)? However, I will be honest with you, I am terrified to death Mata will be used to land Rooney if we aproach the last day of the transfer window and Manure still havent sold him to us. I think I would literately shad a tear if that happens...

I think he is good, maybe even great. He is definitely better than anyone we have to play as RW/LW (but Hazard), which is obviously a good thing. And he can also be a pretty good CAM. I am just of the opinion that the set of players we already have are more than enough and there is absolutely no need to splash 30 million on a luxury... I believe the bigger rocks must be put in the pot before the smaller ones fit in!

You say you are glad the club didnt decide to overpay for Cavani or any other possible target (DM,CM), but you are glad we are overpaying for Willian? You cant say for others to be happy with something they dont agree on. You have all the right to back-up Mourinho and the board on this deal, I just wont because I think that having the resources doesnt mean we should use it in a not so wise manner...

1. Mourinho was the same one saying we wouldnt buy any more players. Get real, what he said or says to the media means fuck all! 2. MVG is one of the players we need, he wont solve all the problems we continuosly showed last season on the pivot. 3. I agree with that, but it doesnt make my concerns any less valid just because the transfer window isnt over. I guess if you were an Arsenal fan, you wouldnt be worried at all since the window is not closed yet, lol.

Cant argue with that, all I can do is wait and hope you are right and we will adress to the other issues as well and not only the wings...

Hahahah, yeah we dont have cronical striker problems! :loan: Hazard-Oscar-KDB are a super trio and when you have Mata, Schurrle and Moses on the bench. No one, not even Mourinho, can say we need Willian to win the league... I am not unhappy with the deal, per say. I will forever laugh at any Spuds fan that comes my way. But as a fan, I have the right to question wheather it was the right thing to spen the money on another winger (remember we bought Shurrle already) instead of a LB, CB, DM, ST, Whatever!!!

So that is why you let a bunch of players pass, but make 2 wingers your top signings of the season even if you have no strikers nor defensive midfielders?

I never said Willian wont work, you are arguying something I havent said! I am saying the 30mi adn all the effort to steal Willian from Spurs should be used in more critical areas. Two of them being DM and ST... This 30mi and the mooney reserved for Rooney would be enough to cover Cavani and new DM! That is all we are contesting.

Because since Mourinho will single handly win us every title, we dont need STs nor DMs and CMs...

Oh really? Mourinho didnt even had talks with Anzhi about Willian, it was all overnight with a call from ROMAN to the Russians. And he said Willian will add quality(and he will), but it will make us have to get rid of some players. I dont want us to spend 30mi on a luxury that can harm someone else, even if it is Moses. This is just a move we dont desperately need, which would be fine if we had all other issues covered, but we dont. Where is the new DM/CM? Where is the new ST? Where is the confirmation that Mata wont leave in the expense of this deal? We cant even tell if he really wants the dude or he just wants to send a message to Levy, AVB and the whole league. So tell me, what if this is in the portion that wont work?

Did you talk to Mourinho? How do you know he thinks we need him? What if he is only replacing an imminent trade of Rooney and Mata? Mourinho is not the only one with a voice inside Chelsea and we dont know wheather he trully wants Willian or he just doesnt want Willian at Spurs... Jose is not a God and people can actually be right even by contradicting him. Dont tell me you actually think he did things right in Madrid or that letting Mata go (which we can only speculate) would be a good move.

You are so complexed with Manure, its unbelievable...

Yeah, we should have adressed the priorities before playing hijacking games with Spurs!Cole and JT are not the same, so there is an argument for the need of both a LB and a CB. Lampard is not the same and Mikel is Mikel, so a DM/CM in the likes of Witsel and Fernandinho are a must. On top of that, Lukaku/Ba/Torres are not the ideal trio for a club like Chelsea... The only place we didnt need to make changes is the one we are spending almost 50mi on (Williand and Schurrle! EDIT: Dont get me wrong, I have that Joker smile on my face ever since the news broke. Willian is awesome as a player and as a character (plus the fact he is Brazilian). It is just that we should focus on bigger and more important priorities atm.

How did that turn out? Tevez with shirts burned and Balotelli almost beating Mancini? Dezko threatening to leave? Negredo is a bench player and didnt cost City 32mil and Jovetic is a young promissing player who knows he will have to fight for position. Not slightly the same thing with Chelsea! Last time I learned how to count, that is 5 players for 3 spots. With none of them on 150k/week nor with stagerring transfers fees. Plus, Marrone is just a rotational dude... Ask Shaqiri how he is feeling. Wait 6 months for one of Gotze, Muller or Robben to start complaining to the media about playing time. And lets see for how much time Bayern's financial stability will last with all thoses big players in their wage bill. Exactly! And that is why we already have Hazard, Oscar, Mata, KDB, Shurrle and Moses... Manure disagrees, Dortmund disagrees, Valencia disagrees, etc, etc, etc... Because he is a luxury we dont really need! Real life doesnt work like that, it is not FIFA or Football Manager where everything gets solved in the bush of a button... ????

How did that turn out? Tevez with shirts burned and Balotelli almost beating Mancini? Dezko threatening to leave? Negredo is a bench player and didnt cost City 32mil and Jovetic is a young promissing player who knows he will have to fight for position. Not slightly the same thing with Chelsea! Last time I learned how to count, that is 5 players for 3 spots. With none of them on 150k/week nor with stagerring transfers fees. Plus, Marrone is just a rotational dude... Ask Shaqiri how he is feeling. Wait 6 months for one of Gotze, Muller or Robben to start complaining to the media about playing time. And lets see for how much time Bayern's financial stability will last with all thoses big players in their wage bill. Exactly! And that is why we already have Hazard, Oscar, Mata, KDB, Shurrle and Moses... Manure disagrees, Dortmund disagrees, Valencia disagrees, etc, etc, etc... Because he is a luxury we dont really need! Real life doesnt work like that, it is not FIFA or Football Manager where everything gets solved in the bush of a button... ????

Yes, because you tried it in FIFA, right?

So... 1) Probably Mikel and Ba sold, Moses loadned out to another EPL team. 2) Then we would try to get Rooney 3) And I think we desperately need a new high tempo DM to add depth and new options.

It seems totally unnecessary, but it does make a little bit of sense if Jose is thinking long term and has realized we dont have the width and work-rate he desires on the attacking end of the field... We would have 5 top qualities creative AMs to rotate, we would piss the hell out of a rival and Mourinho/Roman would get their beloved media attention. Now, that we should be spending those 30mil in a DM and ST, I have absolutely no doubt about it!