Zinedine Iniesco

Lionel messi without a doubt. No player has the complete package like he does. Not Ronaldo, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Kaka, or any of these other forwards you might think of. He is amazing on almost all if not all fronts.

Lol it doesnt matter what you call it as its all fairy tell LALA BS lol. If anyone else is up for proper discussion then lets talk, until then or better said NEVER konohas( let the butthurt flow for u in the meanwhile). :D Ive pointed some of mous real failings and it hasnt only happened in madrid. I do hope the best for chelsea's and mourinho's 2nd marriage. Patience for one will be needed. Because if mou can keep his players from turning on him like it was apparent in his first term in chelsea as many insiders say, and if he wins trophies, only abramovich may stand in the way.

Well i havent see either of those two play but believe me, di maria is not the solution for chelsea. He is too expensive and too bad.

You have no crystal ball, you are no fortune teller, and even if you did and u were its all fake anyways lol Madrid have actually not done too badly in the last 10 years, you go 1 more year back and its a cl and 4 la ligas only 2 less la ligas than barcelona and 2 less cls despite this being barcelona's golden age. I stated the truth of his conditions in madrid, you still seem apparent at not wanting to take his negatives into consideration, thats why you replied with really illogical replies such as " we know all his pros and cons". Again too much is being made on the club atm, i posted more about this in a thread called jose's back in the multimedia forum if u want to follow the conversation. Despite what was against him he was given all the money and power at madrid, they even kicked jorge valdano as gm for him. They gave him the free will to shape his tactics and his purchases, he made very bad purchases, very bad tactics, and then thus bad results. 3 years with incompetent players like arbeloa, khedira, and heck even alonso. There are so many errors like his tactics, purchases, behavior, that is not only in madrid but has been reccurent in chelsea, inter, and now madrid. His individual failures are not due to the club lol, we gave him the plane and he crashed it. Many of you decide to put a blind eye on his failings or try to pretend its madrid's fault but it really isnt for most of his individual failings such as team philosophy, tactics, purchases, basically everything lol. Not even his famous motivation worked, its not like the players were rogue lol. Makes no sense to judge one man on a lack of celebration against city, no logic in that if you deny to see the big picture. He imploded in madrid just like he did in chelsea and inter. he left chelsea with problems and left them with little on the football side, same with inter as they got gang banged afterwards and he also said he hated italian football and vice versa, and now madrid. Hes proven to be a ticking time bomb and for chelsea sake its better not happen again. @Konohas: as it is obviously apparent you just cant handle logical arguments, ignore me or suffer the consequences with your butthurt even if i dont directly talk to you apparently lol. For your own good close your eyes Jose proved hes short term and has massive failings thus far. Hes imploded every where hes gone. Your failure to atleast accept this or try to look for clarity is your own problem.

Bad logic being used by you here with all due respect. Apparently you havent really payed attention to Di Maria. La Liga is an "easy" place to score and assist in, dont let the numbers fool you, when circumstances are such that you look like an idiot against teams like manchester united, or bayern munich, or borussia dortmund where you dont know where to pass a ball, dont know how to pass it to begin with and are only a handicap and a flop..Well then.. Its the big games that really define players and di maria has flopped in nearly all of them, dont let the assist to ronaldo in the copa del rey fool you for example lol, the rest of the match he misplaced balls, feel too easily and was not world class in any way. You said he offers unbelievable work rate and that you "need" that, like i said if your manager really thinks you need di maria they could get him as a bench player for less than 15 million and that would be acceptable but i doubt he wants to bench and i really doubt madrid will sell for less than 25 which at that point youd have to be disabled to buy him. You blame other players too defend di maria in such a way? It could be logical to do so but not in this case as you are trying too hard to put a blind eye to his problems. He was NOT CONSISTENT at all and never has been except for about the first half of his first year in madrid but it all went down after wards specially when facing real opposition. He's a diver. He's expensive. He has HORRIBLE passing. Only good thing he has is work rate is final ball and work rate which is not enough for 25 million plus + Specially when you dont even need him. He is inconsistent, has never had a great game against a great team, sucked more than anyone else in our attack this year really, and he just fails in too many areas. And an argument such as "he plays for argentina" is very faulty. Look at arbeloa starting for madrid, and hes garbage! and for spain... Sometimes its down to manager perferences but when you dissect di maria, he is not impressive at all. Hes never been great, dont know what matches uve been seeing with all due respect. Sprouting out " hes been playing at a high level for x years" only goes so far...As it is false. You think i rate ozil high because he can do well against pathetico madrid? The guy is sht at defending and that is why guys like gotze are getting rated over him by mostly everyone. You have to learn to dissect players, di maria in a package is a disgrace if what you want is a good deal thats world class and lives up to the hype. Youtube can really distort minds if not careful.

Thanks for the appreciation. He builds counter attacking teams but the problem here is that he doesnt build teams differently because he doesnt know how to. He plays with his own style and it has its drawbacks. You guys could have gone for a more proactive style of football as i remember was the idea with villas boas but that went wrong, and with the pressure from abramovich, the need for results sometimes makes it impossible to build projects like shown in madrid the last decade. You dont need khedira, its an embarassment mourinho chose him to start for us for 3 years, but coentrao is good and wont sell for more than 20 million, he could be a goo purchase for you. Best lb available id say. I did say modric will be given another shot in the modric thread, but he failed with modric because he was given the shot to bring both cazorla and isco as reported by reliable sources like EL CONFIDENCIAL and decided to bring modric for a very expensive price instead and didnt know what to do with him which resulted in a bad season for modric. He is too expensive, and there are too little options on the market for us not to give modric a chance. He is defensively kind of poor and gundogan is superior for a CM. madrid tried to go for him a week ago but dortmund says to wait a year because of the sales being made this season so we stick with modric for now. Ronaldo the brazilian one was not chosen by del bosque, he was thrust on him like schevchenko on mourinho. CR7 and Kaka were brought by perez, Kaka is the worst purchase ever, and cr7 was a success but both were not due to managers. HNKS - "That is football" is not an argument. Its like murder rates spiking up in a country when in another one they are going down, everything has a reason, not just because "its life". Madrid is not a sht club, in the last 26 years for example united have won 12 PLS and 2 CLS while madrid have won 13 la ligas and 3 cls, all this despite fergies long term reign. And we must not jump to conclusion about the players, mourinho lost the wagon here, and he has had problems every where he went. It was combustion. He had problems with people in chelsea, and as said by many people near him and in his documentary he was losing some people in chelsea's dressing room. In inter he said that he didnt like italian football didnt like him and vice versa. And then in madrid he imploded as well. He made a bad team, had many errors in almost all aspects, and now is coming back here to redeem himself in his favorite environment. But he went to the hardest job he had and failed, similarly leaving as he left with the other clubs. Its a recurring thread for him to implode. @ Konohas : Keep living in wonderland then. Thats barely a proper statement, much less an argument you boasted there. I pointed out problems he has that he has shown not only in madrid but in chelsea it self in the past. He has imploded every where hes gone with the same problems. Cant ignore his failings really, thats why everyones pointing fingers at madrid illogically.

No "The best two teams in the world" dont cut it. When you come to madrid and are given money and power you should expect good things ideally but we at madrid got banged, badly. When we faced Bayern a year ago, we were going in as favorites ( for those who didnt watch bayern)... These two links will show you the errors Mourinho made on the two legs ALONE. http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/04/17/bayern-munich-2-1-real-madrid-what-type-of-player-to-use-as-the-number-ten/ http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/04/25/real-madrid-2-1-bayern-munich-bayern-through-on-penalties/ To be honest we only survived with the football we played with him because we have talented players, but thats not enough as he built the team wrongly from the get go from making a player so limited like khedira a starter for 3 years ( for example). Dont rate teams like you just did, thats not how its done. That is why Chelsea beat Barcelona last year because they did their job very well, just how Borussia which beat us did well against us with their superior football. While chelsea got lucky that barcelona missed so many times but also did an amazing job tactically and on the field. Dortmund is a better "team" than what mourinho made and they beat us in the individual strategies for the games as well. Yes you can judge his tactics. Thats why we lost two la ligas and showed the whole world why we should not only worry about el classicos. You dont watch real madrid, you arent aware of the embarrassment we faced against GETAFE FFS. One tough team for madrid in la liga? How does this make sense when he gets found out and beat by inferior teams more times than i can count with my hands TWO TIMES OVER, in his tenure in madrid? Players without spirit? They have spirit but mourinho lost the players with his behavior, if they didnt have spirit you wouldnt have seen almost all of them cry when we lost against dortmund in the bernabeu when we were 1 goal away from the miracle, dont use these as excuses either. And NACH obviously you cant ever be aware of all the flaws( as it is regular for people to either minimize them or over proportion them), nor can you speak for everyone. Like i said, if you feel like you'd like to maybe learn to look at things from a more analytical point of view if thats the case then do so if not then continue on. Just stating my opinion. It is a manager's job to get the best out of his players but he built a bad climate, you cant just generalize and say all madrid players have no spirit, this is not logical either. They all gave their heart out ( most of them if not all looked sad and tired, they did care about the game) but werent given the tools to win. Thats why mourinho replaced defenders and midfielders with players like kaka because he was THAT clueless about what to do. Well im going to sleep but ive said pretty much everything that had to be said at this point from my part. Good day.

Thanks for posting my post. I haven't seen Schurlle play but Di Maria is a disgrace, i have watched him play for thousands of minutes over the last three years. Ive begged for him to leave for two. Don't count on Di Maria. He would have you thinking he's the next robben with those youtube videos but dont fool yourselves the guy is a disgrace, those youtube videos can make anyone look good but what matters goes beyond dribbling some poor bloke from Real Murcia, Mallorca, or Auxerre.

The thing here is that the analysis i give about madrid is about MOURINHO'S job there. Its like me giving you an analysis and Resume of someone coming into work, and you deciding not to take a look at the workers past work and results simply because you want to ignore the negatives and take only the positives. This is not logically correct with all due respect. There are clear flaws with Mourinho's Modus Operandi as he has had problems wherever hes gone that have led to short term projects ending in combustion. It is an analysis that is it. I dont think ignoring something as valuable simply to keep things "rosy" is logical or appropriate, but..Each to his own i suppose.

Each to his own. I simply stated what i saw happen with an analytical perspective. He failed to win 5/6 trophies with madrid, made fools out of us image wise, and made horrible purchases, while leaving no good footballing ideas, and making tremendous individual tactical mistakes in "big" and "small matches". It Happened. This is not to say that the same will happen in Chelsea as this is a different club. What i wrote was not a hate message, not at all, i actually tried to sound optimistic with his arrival here.He has said he likes to work in england, if he manages to keep squad morale high, and winning form on then he could have a good time here all things considered. His track record shows hes a ticking time bomb but we will see.

I would suggest you eventually read it as i think its insightful.

Since this is the main mourinho thread i would like to share a post that i posted on another mourinho thread in this forum, i am a madrid fan and here is my analysis of how i rank mourinho's time in madrid. In Madrid theres a structure where behavior and values are looked at with a microscope in a special way, in madrid this is called "senorio", where madrid is looked or was looked at as classy to put it simply. Kind of how Barcelona stands for values as they say with "mes que un club". ( This was problem A for Mou before he went to madrid). In Madrid there is a belief that you have to "die" attacking, people dont want to see madrid defending on their back foot in their own home. There is a certain spanish style in madrid's history (epitomized recently in the late 80's with la quinta del buitre which won la liga for almost an entire decade). ( Problem B for Mou before he went to madrid.) So these two problems were going to make it hard for mourinho to live a peaceful life here because as everyone knew, he had an attitude which would clash with "senorio", like joining barcelona with the values they have...So he had the problem with attitude and he had the problem with the way hed make the team play, so controversy and pain was almost guaranteed before he arrived. Well when madrid got him, pellegrini was sacked so he could come. People knew that bringing mou had its drawbacks, specially for us as not only the attitude and style was in doubt, but also his ability to build a long term plan. Well the whole thing when we brought him was that THE END HAD TO JUSTIFY THE MEANS. Mourinho is more RESULTIST than a coach like guardiola in that a coach like guardiola or cryuff hellped build legacies, canteras, styles of football, and football with substance that could be evolutionized and revolutionized into being something special. Mou brings nothing of this because as his track record showed, his football was not long term in that sense and if anything he had shown that his way of being was ANTI long term. So based on this maybe a coach like guardiola who is classy and has this long term thing to him could be saved from being "hanged" but when a coach that is so arrogant and controversial and plays such a negative football and is like SATAN to what madrid stands for comes to madrid and fails to justify the means with his arrival, the only thing i can do as the majority can is deem his time here as a FAILURE. Forget about all other competitions other than la liga and champions league. HE FAILED TO WIN 5/6 OF THOSE TOURNAMENTS. He got beat by barcelona twice in the league, and despite things that you can point at like the red card on pepe in 10/11 in the CL SEMI FINAL, the scheme he brought to madrid was so poor that we got lambasted 3 years in a row by dortmund, munich, and barcelona. Bare in mind that in each and every of the campaigns the only time we had real formidable foes in our way to the semi finals was this year when we faced manchester united and we only won because the referee made a mistake with NANI. So bottom line mourinho failed in Madrid because his football philosophy is non existant, he left us with nothing, no type of good football that can be expanded and that a legacy or football project can be created with like the ones with bayern munich, dortmund, or barcelona, which are coincidentally the teams that took us down. His football was so horrible that we lost two la ligas because teams figured us out,we were either ill prepared tactically or mentally and emotionally because in 12/13 there was civil war in madrid leading to a huge dip in form in the first half of season. So mourinho left no type of football philosophy, and he failed to win 5/6 real trophies. Thats an 83 percent failure he had in madrid. So he left us with a horrible brand of football if it can even be called a brand, and with 1 trophy out of 6. So in that side of the coin its a total FAILURE. On THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN. You could say he brought madrid back into relevance into the CL SEMI FINALS, this is probably the only justification his most dire supporters can use, but the reality is that since VICENTE DEL BOSQUE IN 2003 AND NOT EVEN THEN! No one has been given more power or money to spend than jose mourinho. And what did jose do with that power? He made a circus out of madrid making us look like bastards with guys like Xavi defending the senorio of real madrid, our OWN CLUB by saying that mourinho was a cancer. So this is nto a justification. Its like saying " hey madrid finally gave someone a chance and when they gave the guy a chance you know what he did? he made us look like clowns, made horrible purchases, and failed to win the trophies more than 80 percent of the time!" Aside from that theres nothing more to say, mou was a failure in each and every way. He gave us a 3 year run of consistency, its a step forward but its due to his overated status and not to what he did here, thats why guys like PEREZ are idiots and these last 4 years of his i will wish to see race past me as i dont want perez in madrid. Mourinho failed. He failed with the trophies. He failed with the football. Thats why everyone was saying "madrid is it really worth the cost?" well the answer was, "lets wait till its over to decide", and now we can answer with a big NO. He made us into clowns and losers, LITERALLY. The return of relevance was due to the club waking up a little bit and realizing that no matter who the coach if you treat him like sh*T and dont give him time nothing good will happen. Mou did nothing special with out team considering he built it wrong around a bad football brand, spent alot of money, i mean someone like pellegrini if he had stayed would have been classy, would have brought better football, and if given time would have probably led to trophies, as mourinho showed, he is not the best manager or coach in the world in any way, he just has a short term winning formula ( that is not guaranteed btw) that packs in a high dose of controversy and bullshi*T. Now about his transfers..They were horrible... He brought Nuri Sahin and probably never even watched him play considering he didnt know what to do with him and ostracized him completely, by making alonso play almost every game of the season. Nuri Sahin was a failure. Di Maria is a clown, he is predictable, a prolific diver, overated, and cant pass for sh*t, only thing he has is good work rate. Coentrao was a 30 million failure, not needed here, mou tried him in midfield and failed, and he failed at displacing marcelo too. Altintop? HAHAAHAHAHa Modric maybe his biggest failure. So expensive, could have brought someone like gundogan or given sahin more of a chance but he spent so much on modric just so that he didnt know what to do, what a piece of sh*T mourinho prove to be with transfers. None of his transfers had impact, they were all overpriced flops. Coentrao is madrid biggest mistake but he will be sold for around 18 i heard, and modric will be given a chance since mou just played him as utility player anywhere not knowing what to do with him. Mourinho is a bit of a fraud, he is sh*T tactically, he got beat soundly in all the 3 CL semi finals tactically. Go to google and type in Zonal mARKING along with the match ud want to check like the bayern vs madrid match in 11/12, very profound explanations of the rape mourinho took. He built such a shit team that he had to take a midfielder out and the rb out more than once in la liga games this year to put in callejon and kaka in an attempt to throw all attacking players out there and hope for a goal. SEVILLA GAME WAS THE LOWEST POINT. http://www.zonalmark...of-both-halves/ A piece of sh*t tactically and financially, and he failed in all fronts. Forgive me if i am harsh but this is the reality. He made us waste money on people we didnt need and he didnt know how to use, he left us with no positives in the football area, failed to win the trophies, did not do a "special job", did not justify the means, behaved like a classless prick, and hurt our image. A CL would have justified the means as crazy as it sounds, but with the controversy with the players and everything...a facking disgrace. Oh and dont get me started on the players..80 percent of the dressing room was against him. So were the fans because he was an asshole who didnt keep his promises to guys like benzema. Only arbeloa, modric, essien, lopez, callejon, licked his ass in the end. Even pepe told him to fck off after what he did to iker. FAILURE. Who do i want in madrid? Someone who could bring progressive football, with advanced technical football like the ones we see from the germans so that we can build a long term project like a modern club should, maybe someone like laudrup or heynckes. Trophy cabinets like mourinho's mean jack shit if you dont take all areas into account. But perez is an idiot, i was illusioned with the arrival of zidane as our GM that we would do what i wish but we are sliding towards ancelotti which is like mourinho but less bound to successful, plays sht football, very defensive minded, all is going wrong. I dont know why zidane didnt advice perez on this. Apparently madrid will get ancelotti and bale and that sickens me, we will play shit football that has led to our demise in europe ( i could go further into detail into mourinhos failings but i wont atm) with managers like him or mou we wont get to see ozil shine in the correct place in the pitch, we will fail against park the bus teams and lose la ligas, all while playing shit football. ( I maybe be too hard carlo him atm we will see). And the overpriced one trick pony bale...He is overpriced and would get unmasked if put into a passing side. Weve never seen profficient passing skills, or football inteligence, or through balls, or ability to beat players without speed, from bale. All he is, is a countering machine with a hell of a shot, but in madrid we should strive for more than that, and its because of our reluctance that we lose our chances at real geniuses like gotze, reus, and now apparently isco. Which are much better with the ball, can do much more with it, and are much cheaper. I think that answers your question What do i expect from mourinho in chelsea? These are different circumstances, maybe hes happy here and vice versa, i dont know but to leave it shortly, dont expect great deals in transfers if mou is given big authority, all i can say is he will do atleast ok we will see. but the best case scenario is that he is given time, and he wins by keeping player morale high and keeping a good grip of the areas in football by winning. Worst case scenario is that there is YET ANOTHER COMBUSTION and everything goes to hell; the relationships the football, EVERYTHING. DO NOT expect to see revolutionizing football like Bayern's or barca's Or Dortmund, or simply put technical, like Athletic Bilbao's last season. If anything i would like to inform many here to reconsider your view of mourinho if your are capable enough to realize that your view of him is overrated and miscalculated, IF THAT IS INDEED THE CASE ATLEAST. I feel i explained the reasoning behind this well. Was given total control of the madrid ship and sent it crashing into flames. He was not the right man for the job.

Mourinho has massive problems with Casillas and Ramos thats one of the reasons hes leaving other than the failure to win a Cl among other things. Leaving out Casillas even though hes fit and not injured, is being looked at as his swan song, believe me it wouldnt be news if iker was injured lol. He will play Adan, would have played Lopez since lopez probably wont see the light of day next year but who knows. And he will not be announced for chelsea tommorow i'd bet on it. Its his last game, its too much to do it all in one day and also a bit disrespectful as if that matters at this point lol. He will probably be announced on monday.

Because i have been getting aneurisms for 3 years now watching him in madrid. He is predictable and inconsistent. The only positive thing in him is his final ball and his work rate. The guy could be an RWB which is one of the reasons mou took him to madrid since the midfield in madrid is really bad in defending due to its poor and slow technical players like khedira and alonso, and ozil and ronaldo not knowing how to defend for their lives. Di Maria is predictable with his dribbling as he gets almost know where with it, he has bad decision making, and cant pass the ball for sh*t, i cant tell you how many times hes ruined counter attacks and is an even bigger reason as to why madrid sucks with the ball. He cant pass the ball for sh*t, only good pass is his final ball which is usually a cross or a looping "Teaspoon pass" as i refer to it as. Not only is his dribbling pathetic, his passing non existant, but he is a diver as well, he has made a bad name for him self specially in late 10/11 and early 11/12. Forget about his assist tally thats not the end of the story. One thing is to do well against betis and villareal, its another to flop everytime u face dortmund or bayern. Nonono he doesnt justify his prescence here. He is predictable and sh*T, and a diver. And inconsistent. He got injured in the middle of last season, came back, had little impact, was very good in the pre season with us against teams like LA GALAXY and some 2nd division spanish team, and then preceeded to suck @#!!@ big time in all of 12/13 with only one good game which was the game against valencia. He is predictable, horrible passer, inconsistent, and a diver. But lets face it, chelsea will have mourinho here, he wont focus his game on passing, and if he bought di maria and had him play many times then its because he likes what di maria brings to the table for mous style of football. Hes shit though, but u know what, mou probably doesnt like him enough to take him to chelsea, but mou has made some VERY bad purchases recently, so u never know. If i were u id hope not to get di maria, but then again he'd probably bench, for a purchase less than 15 mil maybe hed be alright but he cost madrid 28 million and didnt justify it, hes a handicap. He wont go for less than 25 btw, i doubt madrid will be foolish to do that. Psg is on him atm ive heard.

To make it clear, Thiago has never really been at piece with barca, he almost left a few years ago as his father didnt really see barcelona with a big intent on him. If he leaves he prob wont return lol. I think one of either fabregas or thiago if not both will leave barca, rumors from RMC say that real madrid have been in talks yesterday with his father, but i havent heard supporting details. If you bring him to chelsea he would be a superb signing, for anyone actually, hes very talented. EDIT: Sorry, it was not RMC it was RAC1 http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/05/31/primera/1370037501_868792.html I could see madrid pulling for him, its always nice for the two el classico clubs to throw punches at each other. Barca took neymar while madrid pulls of the figo of this generation.

About Cavani, dont believe for a second that real madrid are going for him. Bronzetti which is a "Transfer" man to put it simply said that its most likely that cavani stays in napoli, Perez has made allusion to the fact that real madrid are not really looking for strikers ( ignore the suarez thing for now, hes brought himself more on to madrid if anything), and the guy is too expensive. I also heard PSG could go out firing at will for rooney so only city and chelsea i think could land cavani if he leaves napoli but very educated people like Bronzetti among others really make it sound like hes not leaving napoli, along with napoli offering him a higher wage.

Thanks for the share!

Allow me to allow some "better" insight into modric or any real madrid targets chelsea might have. Perez/ Zidane, whatever, Madrid tried to go after Gundogan about a week ago and madrid was told that they would have to wait until next season because there was too much turnover or will be too much turnover this transfer break in dortmund. They will see lewandowski and gotze among others and cant afford to lose gundogan nor do they really HAVE TO economically. Nuri Sahin is not a guarantee in anyway, so gundogan stays in dortmund until next year. What does this mean? It means that considering alonso is turning into a broken semi functional player Modric will probably be the midfielder to use by Ancelotti which seems to be madrid's pick as their coach. modric will be used in the midfield area because thats where he should play, has to play, and probably will play. Its too complicated to go after any midfielder for madrid, considering other than gundogan theres almost no one, and modric cost us alot and we havent been able to see him in a position hes comfortable in, since he was played mostly as a utility player and dropped in anywhere in 12/13. Mourinho FAILED with him. So more likely than not, MODRIC IS NOT FOR SALE. About Di Maria...The bastard sucks. Plain and simple, thats why hes most likely leaving along with jose callejon so that bale or isco come along with Jese which is real madrid's prodige youth player. Chelsea should not go after him but mourinho might because he was a mourinho purchase who was bought INSTEAD OF DAVID FUCKING SILVA back in 10/11, and he was pretty much mourinho's boy in a way, so mourinho might go after di maria but for chelsea's sake i hope he doesnt, i hope he goes to PSG which seems to have set a 25 million dollar offer on him. I dont know how much cole has left in him but coentrao if given the starting position, AND with mourinho as his coach can become formidable imo. And i dont think madrid WOULDNT sell to chelsea. We dont want coentrao here, we never did. We never wanted di maria, modric, or coentrao. Di maria sucks and was brought into to have someone who could track back among other things. We got those 3 overpriced losers ( losers based on the fact that they havent really justified them selves in madrid) over SIlva, CAZORLA AND ISCO, and we didnt even need coentrao...he was brought in to displace marcelo and he failed, then he was tried in the mid and he failed. Mou failed with his purchases, he failed madrid, but coentrao could be good for you, and so could di maria if hes a bench player atleast. Modric is not for sale and will be given time, but we gave up on CAZORLA AND ISCO for him as EL CONFIDENCIAL released, hes not for SALE. Also i dont know why there hasnt been any offers hear for higuain in chelsea, maybe there will be, mou liked higuain and benzema is above him in the ladder, hes not elite but hes def above average, hes very good, but if he goes anywhere it looks like that place will be juventus atm.

Hello everyone, you might remember, u might not, i first came here about a year ago when the 12/13 season started because i wanted to follow some teams more closely and chelsea was one of them, well due to time constraints and others factors nor did i visit much here in the last year and nor did i watch much chelsea ( heck i didnt even watch much madrid after december when everything went to hell *Madrid is my club ;D*). Well now that jose is back to chelsea and since ive always had a soft spot for chelsea, part of it because of mou, are now is the perfect time to return and participate.. So uh..Hello there and uh i hope this next year is a very successful one for both madrid and chelsea. Now i know this petition is out of no where but are there any links to any downloadable documentaries i could watch to learn more about chelsea's history? If there is already a thread or subforum then sorry and ill just go look for it lol. And yes i am intrigued by Mou's arrival, im a fan of the man but not too much of his style on the pitch per say, hes not long term built for several reasons but maybe that can change since he says hes always wanted to come back to england. In madrid he made a mess winning only 1/6 major tropies (CL AND LA LIGA) in 3 years all while badly hurting our image. I deem his participation here a failure, u might say we ended barcelona's reign of might over us, and we reached 3 semi finals but with the legacy and resources madrid has i cant really say mourinho was down to that, he was the special one and was brought to justify the means of his arrival and win trophies and he didnt, and since he didnt and leaves much more of a tainted legacy i deem him as a FAILURE in madrid. I am eager to see what he does here. And it does not look good for madrid either, with bale and ancelotti almost surely coming, madrid looks in no way to look for a nice building of a project with good football like dortmund or bayern. Dissapoints me.

Lol at people thinking ozil is surplus..such...LOL Ya id probably rather have mata than silva or cazorla, him and ozil are in a close level but when it comes to vision and final balls, that final assist, i think ozil wins. Cazorla underated? The most underated AM type of player is Kroos, the german gerrard.

The former real madrid castilla youth product is indeed a great player, santi is more of an acm though plays deeper, and thats why he doesnt exactly have the assist numbers mata has.I'd say that when it comes to Attacking midfielders iniesta, ozil, silva, cazorla, and mata are the top 5 atm in no order. No one has the eye for passes or final pass quality ozil does though imo, silva probably has the best dribbling, and iniesta the better ball control. What do you think, where do you place mata?

Lol in spain no one is talking about mata either actually, cazorla is the headline, specially considering many like to complain that mourinho went for modric instead of santi.

The january swoop was going to be a bit weird imo for various reasons anyways. If anything, that rule has been there from the beginning, meaning not to go for falcao until the season is over, for various reasons, including rating the performance of torres.Falcao is cup tied as well, no use in the cl. Check it out by googling it. If player a's club reaches past the group stage of europa league, he cant play in the cl or europa with another team.

Oh how i miss a good, healthy, competent, ricardo carvalho.

You dont watch real madrid, for you to call him a " non big player" seems to me a bit uneducated.The guy scored 32 goals and 15 assists last year, and could have gotten to 40-20 minimum if higuain didnt take minutes from him. All this considering that ronaldo takes most of the shine in the attack. Benzema is a great forward, but going to chelsea is a nono for him. Benzema was actually a great player against barcelona last year, scoring something like 3 goals and 3 assists against them, and s always among the top goals+ assists packaged in the champions league. He could be hitting better form if he was the undisuputed striker. Lol so if you are going to try to discredit benzema, then do so in a logical way, like saying he might not be best for chelsea system due to many reasons, but when talking about him we are talking about a player who performed at a very high level against our main rivals all season long last year, and is capable of some of the best forward link up play there is, and makes his self worth with 30+ goals and 12 or so assists throughout the season, albeit sharing minutes with higuain.