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You lot were fully deserved of your win. Think it would have been different had Hazard scored but over the 90 mins you fully deserved it, your midfield and use of the wingbacks were excellent and controlled the game. Admittedly accept you were the better team on the night. Still think it is easily possible that you lose to Shakhtar but yes you summed it up quite well, if you pass you will deserve it, if we pass we will deserve it. The post you were referring to was probably made in anger.

Are you serious? Torres doesnt do half the shit Hazard done.. Hazard created much more, got past players, got involved and looked likely to score. Torres is ivnisble most the time he plays for us, hence why he has been benched.

I actually think Hazard has done very well in the striker position

I think you will find out that most people on these forums will agree with you

I think it might turn out to be a wise move. He definitely has been chosen by RDM to play there to track down the bursting runs of Asamoah.

Thanks god Torres is dropped for once. So there was some truth in Cesar starting at RW after all. Happy to see Hazard up front anyway, sure he will put in a better shift than Torres

Ignore his posts, he is just a troll. All his posts have been criticizing him, claiming that he is rubbish to play for a big team etc, useless poster looking for attention that is all.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1716/champions-league/2012/11/19/3538512/di-matteo-hints-at-axing-torres-for-vital-chelsea-clash-with?source=breakingnews

I am very happy for you lot, espec with Steve Clarke in charge, like the manager with the link he use to have here and also a friend of a friend plays for them (Donervon Daniels if you know who he is lol). The key to WBA is that player for player against a few teams you may be inferior but you make that up in teamwork, belief and brilliant organization. I mean Yacob was unheard of before he came to you and is now being considered as the bets buy along with Cazorla, Hazard etc. Your defence doesnt have any standout names but again brilliant organization and belief is helping you and that is the key sometimes and you have strikers who know how to put it in the back of the net unlike a certain one for us. Mulumbu is very underrated btw and Shane Longe, thought it for a while now is a fantastic all round striker

Well said, don't mind your posts, very honest and welcome. Brilliant win for you lots, good luck against Sunderland next week, can't believe you are in the top 4!

Some one should investigate this guy to see whether he is part of a betting scandal to perform shit every game. How do you turn so shit when you were a world class striker at Liverpool. He is still young and you would have thought this season with our attacking talent he would perform much better but no, same old player. It goes on Italy where players take part in these scandals, maybe that could be a reason to come to my mind of why he can't score. Not the fact that he does not score, he plays crap and slows the team down. The annoying thing amongst us Chelsea fans is that it is not like we are just making lame excuses and insults at Torres. The majority of fans on this forum and general fans away from the forums knew we should never go into the season with Torres as our no.1 striker, we all wanted Falcao, Cavani.... but no the board was under this illusion that Drogba going was going to free Torres mind and turn him into a goalscoring God... well no, didnt work out and the board, whoever decision it was to stick with Torres and Sturridge as our pnly 2 fit strikers should be blamed. It is ludicrous and now every single staff at Chelsea realizes Torres is shit they decide that January Falcao is our no.1 target where if we had just spent the money in January we wouldnt be in this situation. It is crazy the amount of games I can just predict Torres will start but not do a damn thing, same again today and tbh I can;t blame RDM when he is forced to stick with Torres, I am sure if he had his way he would of gone and spent on another striker.

Too many fuckin chances for Torres. I absolutely hate this guy, £50m and all these starts RDM has been trusting you with and you just flop up. I hope he is given a prolonged break away from the first 11 to watch us and fuckin think how to rediscover his scoring touch. He has jot done one thing to suggest we should not think about buying Falcao in January. Lost my patience with him fully now!

Yes but key factor is he defo will be ready for them in 2 years, let alone the fact that I think he could put in a shift for them now. Anyway hopefully it is nothing more than mere speculation and he spends a long career at us.

Even with Luiz mistakes he remains one of my favourite players here. I would be devastated to see him leave as I still believe he has a lot to offer the club. (Not like I think it will happen)

"He has a bit of history with injuries but is getting closer to his debut.... When you are injured and the team are doing well it's quite difficult, but he just has to keep working and waiting for his chance". RDM Explanation to people who are confused as to why RDM has refused to play him so far in the Premier League. But looks like we will see him in action soon then

On current form I think he would put in a better shift than both Torres and Sturridge considering he is getting quite a few goals at WBA and looking quite threatening up front and with our creative players I am sure he would even take more advantage of that

He may be doing decent in the reserves but that is minimal to suggets he should be in the first team. He isnt ready at all, still needs experience and maybe a loan to even get anywhere near our first team. U21s is a different standard compared to what our first team plays and would struggle. Remember, he only made 1 appearance at Forest IIRC, despite ripping it up for the youth team. Also Lukaku is in another league to Bamford, hardly comparable. Lukaku is stronger, faster, better in the air, well to cut a long story short, an all round better striker than Bamford. Bamford is nowhere near the ability of Lukaku and he is at the right place so far and maybe in January a loan will be considered if not next season

Most sensible thing you have said since joining this forum , thanks God!

He has made an excellent start here considering he is only 21 years of age and has arguably replicated his international form with club form. He may still have things to learn but what makes you think he is a "poor" player?

Fixed it for you mate

Is that a sarcastic comment or something to be taken seriously? I don't understand your post either way

RDM has done a brilliant job with Hazard, his form has been good, slacked of a little recently and suffered maybe a little burnout but you are making it sound like RDM doesnt know what he is doing with him. Your point about Hazard has no evidence, especially when he has not really got he best out of Kagawa who was tipped by some to outshine Hazard but he has not been all this hype that was talked about. I agree with how sloppy we looked and so on though. But I think that is unfair to say he is not developing young players into world class players, considering also how he has helped Oscar shine this season.

The Premier League is like that. I don't think judging by this performance we can say this will not win us the title, it is the unpredictability of this league. City won the league last season and also picked up odd results last season when they won the league, eg drawing at home to Sunderland 3-3. Liverpool have a good team and have been unfortunate a lot this season. They had a weakened team against United and City but put in very good performances.

He only had 15 mins to prove himself, that is not easy against a stern defence. He has not been given a chance to prove himself. Being back up to a striker who doesnt deserve to be there is due to down his confidence. I want him starting against WBA, hopefully he proves himself from there.

Also the partnership that won us the FA cup last season