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If you haven't done so, go ahead and watch the highlights of Brazil x Uruguay match for cut qualifiers. David Luiz had another ridiculous performance - hilarious stuff.

Mistakes... Culprit... they aren't the reason Cahill is insufficient. It's not like Kompany makes fewer mistakes, but that he adds more to his side than Cahill does. how they defend also matters.

You are linking cause and consequence When imo there is none or at least very little. mikel started against Everton and Porto under Jose and you know how well we played. i digress, this is Oscar thread. i will give you a different example then: don't think Pedro is better than Oscar regardless of form. my point remains that we have other oscars in the team... Several of them actually. pains me to say it, but depending on the deal he may or may not be willing to take, terry should perhaps leave too.

Absolutely not... Regardless whether I think Oscar may still make it, it is clear it won't happen here. what I am criticizing is the simplification that Oscar is somehow responsible for our lackluster play this season, ironically when he hasn't featured very often. cant answer why RLC doesn't play - might be that the manager doesn't think much of him. I personally think matic is twice the player mikel is, but I digress. Mikel should definitely be one leaving along with Oscar. it is actually a lot easier and cheaper to replace mikel than Oscar. 4-5 players should leave or at least lose their starting position, otherwise we will have a very similar season. And def adjust the system if fabregas stays.

Don't know about your telly, but on mine Fabregas and Mikel pivot gets destroyed week in and out. People keep saying there is some stability. but we keep conceding twice per match, home or away. It doesn't take a PSG either. The defense is completely exposed facing attackers one-on-ones all the time, which even makes Azpi look like a poor defender - something he is not. RLC needs minutes... pick anyone in midfield and replace him. It doesn't matter anymore. Unless Hiddink has been told to give some players som minutes to raise their value/get some offers in... it happens.

Because he is one player out of eleven and this is not tennis, as many here would have you believe. so if you replace Oscar and get a fucking "proper" #10 - whatever that may be - the other oscars will still be there fucking it up around your fabled #10. In the end it's simple arithmetic: the top teams have no oscars in their starting xi or even in the squad. We have them in numbers. if you want to fool yourself in thinking that replacing Oscar with, say Isco, will make us great again, then go right ahead, but I still find that idea fucking ridiculous.

Agreed, but ironically Oscar did win as much of a penalty as the one at the end.

Lukaku had a horrible time against Arsenal. i guess that makes us look even worse by the way he took us apart.

There is only one way this set of players can play: the Mourinho way - very very deep in their own half. it is very easy for anyone atm to get behind our midfield and our defense lines. They are just too slow to chase and to step up respectively. There is a gulf that separates the defense line and the midfield - very classic problem - which will get exploited until fixed.

Agreed except work rate, which is puzzling tbh. Think that ship has already sailed. Even people like me who still think he can improve, don't think that's likely to happen at Chelsea. what worries me is that even at current level, there are far worse problems in the team: like the fact our midfield gets overrun by anyone. Can't win games losing the midfield.

He has regressed indeed. If you look at his stats you will that they are down in comparison: he had goals, assists and especially interceptions due to high working rate... Not anymore. not that it matters too much right now though-this is his current level. However we have quite a few oscars or worse on the team; you guy's obsession with Oscar is unhealthy... Sorry couldn't resist.

Ok say he does, still don't think so, but just for argument's sake: he's just too old at 34/35 especially for a striker who needs acceleration to make runs. would take him a few years ago, but not now. he plays in a far less physically demanding league.

Sell him! Get 10m while he's worth 10m! After playing 50 matches as a defensive LB he will be worth 5m, so this is pretty much it....

Overrated: the bigger the match the more he vanishes (no we do not count as big anymore :() Not great in the locker room: he's stupid, arrogant, and only says BS. Papers will love him! Too old and will get an automatic starting spot... He does make sense though considering our signings have been pathetic lately.

I don't think James is overrated nor has he been enjoying the night life too much - he's just not that good. Quite simply Hazard is a lot better than him. Yes, Hazard's mind is elsewhere, can be lazy, but he had a tremendous season before which is something James never had. Yes, he had a good world cup with a pretty average team playing to his strengths who got knocked out as soon as played a big team and an awful one at that. Let's say if Madrid offered James + 20m for Hazard. I'd still think of robbery... Yes, I'd take james, BUT NOT to replace Hazard! We'd need lots of cash for that because James ain't it.

Cuadrado just isn't good enough. He flopped before and he will flop again. Fucking hate watching him play: poor first touch, no body strength, no end product. he has poor technique and relies entirely on pace - lacks power as well. the PL will always be challenging for him. i'd rather have salah back who is at least younger and on lower wages than cuadrado. Wages are probably the reason cuadrado will return.

That'd be more CM deals than we ever done - glad someone can see the obvious.

There is no danger of Willian joining Chinese clubs... Psg is another story of course.

To each his one, but these sliced up fictitious standings don't work for me: different oponents, fitness, momentum, and timing. The little improvement there was, and there was improvement, can be attributed to a number of factors. Guus did not take anyone anywhere. They are millionaire footballers who started the season unfit and lazily. They have visibly been improving their fitness which is hardly Guus' doing. I just believe that the merits of the mediocre improvement are(in order of importance): 1) fitness 2) Guus not being Jose (literally anyone but Jose would do) 3) Guus' ability im sorry but in my mind I can't scape the idea that Guus is the least important factor and the most important one is the players who lacked desire and quality. The small squad emphasized the poor individual form. had Guus done more, played at a higher level, improved the team further, especially against top sides where tactics play a bigge part) then I'd agree and give his due credit. what I see is still poor football performed by very expensive players. A team that can usually beat the small sides, ties the mid, and lose to big clubs. Hardly an achievement in my book. as much as I dislike Jose's antics, there was no excuse for players lack of dedication and desire. I cannot attribute their form to Jose otherwise I'd have to say Jose alone won the league before and not these horrible players. Neither being entirely true.

That's probably why he conviniently wears #8 and not #10, because our playmaker, who has the freedom to create and invent is hazard, not Oscar. just because Oscar plays centralized does not make him a #10. Jose and all his stupidity, stupidity that earns him millions, merely attempted and managed! To balance the team. if one thing changed this season was the our #10, our playmaker and adored player around here decided that for one reason or another, he was not going to play for Chelsea any more. Oscar is just another mediocre player we have in the squad. He happens to be one of the youngest of our mediocre players. Others have been mediocre for a year, or for a decade and yet people come here because Oscar wears an imaginary 10 for club and country.

People are still blaming mourinho really?! then Jose can do no right, can he? I mean he's been gone forever and aside from putting a smile in some of the most mediocre players we've got, we've been playing pretty much the same shit as before - just as unwatchable. let me put it in perspective: Everton, a pretty bad side on their own, spanked us because they are better than us. That's how bad we are. Do people miss mata really ?! Being wrong about Oscar does not make him wrong about mata. Juan mata imo does not belong in the elite - simple. finally, would it matter if we were 2or 3 places lower in the standings because it would have taken the players longer to realize they would have to suffer through him? i know someone will come here and say we would have dropped, but how do you know that? We were not in relegation and would not be had Jose stayed. who knows he might even have produced a less naive starting xi against psg. the truth is that Jose did make the same set of players play better, last season, than they have lately. Can you claim that hiddink would have been able to accomplish the same? Why have we stagnated? Why have we even regressed then? im far from a Jose fan, but boy I don't understand how Hiddnk gets a free pass from taking a set of very expensive players to this mediocrity everybody sees.

Passing is a pretty important skill in football and Oscar is very good at it. The best one twos I've seen had Oscar and hazard. ironically, Willian is criticized in Brazil for not producing anything in the final third. back to Oscar, reckon he'd do very well in a possession system with lots of movement and quick exchanges. Suspect we will find out soon enough as I do think he will leave in the summer. again, just don't be surprised when turns out he's not the quack some here predicted; it has happened before.

Well that's the strangest thing to me: not even the work rate is there. that used to be the only thing he could consistently bring when on the pitch - not anymore.

Same thing happened with cuadrado... No excuse for poor first touch at this level.

I remember people saying the same things they say of Oscar today of Willian back then; Willian also used to produce very little in terms of end result, but that has changed in the last couple of seasons. Oscar used to have more assists and goals than Willian . point being is that a lot can change in a couple of seasons and Willian is/was older than Oscar. I also think he needs to leave because he hasn't been able to contribute coming off the bench or starting. just don't be surprised if he does improve and become a good player elsewhere.