BlueLyon

We dont have philosophy. But thats not something you make in one summer. Bayern, Barca, Real, United (had) philosophy that went for decades. Teams like City or Psg or us dont have philosophy. What we can do (Psg and City did) is to create a plan for future and bring people that suit it. Be it work on young talents, buy galacticos, play attacking or defensive,... We have to create a plan and stick to it. But obviously managers might flop and leave, however our board needs smart people who will continue with project and execute it. And thats the problem, we have idiots on board right now. I dont like City at all, but they have absolutely perfect plan. They spend alot, but IMO they would succeed with half the money (our budget), it would just take more time for them. They have the coach, the idea and that made them interesting to new players, something we lack more and more every year. But the main reason for their succees is quality of the board. Marina vs Txiki is just not comparable.

He will fuck us right in the ass, wont he? Promises about extending, but he will leave on free next summer. Either he can leave this summer or extends.

Low-key Marcelino seems to be quality manager too. He turned shit Valenica into very good one, transforming several underperforming players back in form. Barcelona is doing nice with Velverde, another one who was fairly unknown outside of Spain. People put too much attention on big name managers instead of focusing on managers that have fitting personality, style, ideas,...

Tbh Im not realy buying into what someone has achieved as factor if he will succeed elsewhere/somewhere. Guardiola was appointed as Barca coach after managing only their B squad. Then again, Mourinho who won it all would be hardly a guarantee he wont flop at some new club. Or AvB who was probably most promising coach at one point, he flopped. Same is happening with Emery who was successful with Sevila, but its clear Psg is way above his level. Zidane had no real experience before either but he did fantastic at Real, better than Ancelotti and Mou. IMO what is crucial for manager at club is that he gets along with the board, and vice versa, and most importantly that he knows the culture of how club operates or gets enough financal and vocal support to achieve the goal that he and board share. IMO we would be stupid to not try Steve Holland at one point who knows the club well. And probably Lamps/Terry/Drogs at one point in future. It may be unpopular opinion but we should seriously consider ditching Marina. She is successful business woman, but she just doesnt have the passion/vision to make something great out of this club on football stage, if we go by recent work of her at club. Yeah, we made good on financial basis, but thats all business. In regards of creating football dinasty or modern football culture, she did jack shit and probably doesnt even understand it, its all about finance with her. I mean its good to have someone like that here, but not as director and someone who makes all key decisions. We need people with history to the club, with passion and people who know how football operates. City got Txiki who had experience, vision. What does Marina have in comparisson? Football might be all about money these days, but if you want to actualy succeed, you still need heart and soul, passion and vision. Money doesnt give you that. We need coach that is here with a mission, not just someone that will try to do his job... And obviously we need board that will support our manager, because its a rollercoaster at the top for a while now and it will get us nowhere. We need stability. Period.

Indeed. He isnt perfect coach, neither was Costa perfect striker. But we have to ask, is there anyone better atm available? Either the board can eat some pride/ego and stick to Conte or we go for less quality coach but someone who will be the puppet of board and they will be happy. If Conte ate some pride, we would still have Diego for season or two and then bring another, better and more stable striker to the club in peace. Instead we got worse one in panic buy with Morata, spend huge money on him and still we will probably need to buy another one in summer who will cost more money and time, not to mention adapting to league and club, which means more average transitional seasons at CFC. IMO unless there is out and out great manager that fits this team, we should just stick to Conte for another season and then bring someone. Because if we sack Conte, get Enrique and he doesnt work out, we are again at stage one.

IMO what realy has to change is the board itself, manager is secondary right now. I wish we actualy had some plans longterm and not just for next two seasons, because that means good season, bad season, change manager, rinse and repeat. Half players leave and we are in constant transition with one good season here and there and no playing style or stability. Marina for me is one of big problems at the team. Recent transfers of Drinkwater, Barkley, Bakayoko, Giroud,...give alot of average for huge money. Also whoever the next manager is, the philosophy and team work are crucial for club, manager and board have to work together. If the board is ready for some real change and prepared to support manager, then Tuchel or Sarri could be realy good move. If not, then those two are pointless because they are not proactive managers and wont win much from the start. If board isnt prepared to tolerate that, makes no sense to hire such manager. Enrique is big question. He is as good as players in form, but the moment they arent, he makes bad decisions. He has no plan b, no ideas etc. IMO a bad choice in every way. But again, what we need is quality sporting director and people around him. Abramovich should be involved less too. Real, City and Psg have influental presidents, yet they arent involved anymore like they used to be, instead they trust their directors and managers more. We have to do the same. Thats absolute proiority, not who will be the next manager.

Replacing Conte with Enrique seems terrible idea. Conte isnt ideal, but stiring the shit and going with head against the wall wont improve us. The board is just proving what an idiots they are. Getting rid of Conte for Enrique...I wouldnt mind replacing Conte if there was someone actualy better and more suited for this team, but Enrique isnt that, yet the board keeps pushing and wants Conte head just for the sake of it. Its same story like with Costa who wasnt ideal, but still miles better than what market was offering. And now with Conte, its the same. Enrique was saved by MSN while Tuchel defence gets exposed alot. Sarri would be interesting option but he will stay in Napoli....

He was very good against Atletico and couple games before. To see him play this shit for a while now, its hard to explain. But I guess its complete lack of confidence. And people will laugh, but if he can somehow pull it together, be it with age or different coach, I think he can be great midfielder. Baka is terrible player right now, but Salah was awful here aswell and he is now leading scorer with 28 goals. I mean never say never, Baka as shit he is might actualy reach top level one day. He certainly still has glimpses of it, but his head is in all the wrong places.

Instead of Icardi who could well flop outside italy, just hijack Lautaro Martinez who is going to Inter for 30m. He looks like the next Kun/Tevez in the making and with poor strikers that we have, it might be worth a risk since we arent paying shitload for actualy good and proven striker (if there even is one available).

Voting is done a number of months before, so it will have no bearing. Oh I see...I didnt knew that.

Guys, If he breaks goal tally for PL single season, I bet my house he will win poty. There is simply no other option in such case, not even KDB.

Haha this fucker is going to end up staying here until end of contract and then leave for free with zero fucks given.

i completely agree, but on another note yesteday he was very good IMO. Yeah he isnt leader or he isnt the one to be the most calm and make shit happen on his own, ie score goal etc. but when it comes to simply playing and helping the team, he is amazing. He is pulling the passes and dribbles, playmakes whole game. But for next step, he will simply need something better than Alonso or Cesc or Giroud. Hazard is someone who needs one-twos with others and he needs the teammates around to get involved. He isnt direct player who will march on goal every time and pull something alone. I hope he stays at Chelsea for long time, but if I drop the selfish act, I think the best for him would be to go to Barca. He and Messi plus all the other barca players, Im willing to bet he would leave the likes of Neymar and De Bruyne two levels below. Guidance of serial winners like Iniesta or Messi would help him improve infront of goal and quality of teammates in general would expand his play even further. His selfless play is absolutely perfect to feed the balls to Messi, Suarez and players like that would help himself feel less pressure and become more decisive infront of goal. Compare Alonso, Cesc, Willian and Morata/Giroud with Alba, Iniesta, Suarez and Messi. But the biggest problem is that people dont see what kind of Eden actualy is. Everyone wants goals and him being the main guy and make all the shit happen. Yeah its expected because he is the best player on the team, but thats not his style at all. Ribery or even Modric come to mind. Both are outstanding and arguably most important players for their teams at their peak. Sure Ronaldo is Ronaldo, but Modric was absolutely crucial in every single buildup of Real. Ask any fan, they will often tell you Modric was the motor and brain of that team. CR was scoring goals, and while goals are ''everything'', you still have to win midfield and create those goals, where Modric was unplayable. Ribery was similar, but he played from the wing. Both however had other, more direct players who then decided games and scored, like Ronaldo or Robben. Eden is literaly the same. He makes everything tick, he goes deep to collect the ball, he passes around, dribbles, creates space. But we dont have the player that will actualy finish the chance off. Eden is the kind of player that picks the ball, goes toward the goal and then loves to release it. But we just dont have anyone near his quality. He makes a pass, then Willian fucks up a counter, Alonso isnt fast enough, Giroud misses the goal. The gulf between Eden and rest of the team in sheer quality is too big. Last year, Costa was on same level till january and we played outstanding football. Thats the difference if you have at least one more world class player in attack beside hazard.

He is generaly very good golakeeper, but there are two things; 1.) He cant be relied upon. With Cech, you knew it was great asset to have, someone who can literaly win you game. Someone who will perform at very best when you need him. Someone who is as important as lets say strikers or midfielders. Same can be said about Neuer or Buffon or Oblak etc. Tibo while good goalkeeper, I just cant ever expect he will actualy put great performance. When we played barca in 2012, it was so obvious Cech will do his job and I felt calm when he was at goal. With Tibo its just impossible, he makes stupid shit and rarely steps forward and actualy gives that extra. Obviously he is gk and will makes some saves and he actualy makes some great saves. But with Cech we could play absolute shit, he would make save after save in same game and keep us in game. Tibo makes 2 great saves then he concedes. Bad luck or quality opponents, but Cech had so many amazing games throughout the career, while I could count on one hand of extraordinary games Tibo had. 2.) I dont see him personaly involved with the club or teammates. Cech looked realy settled here, you could see on the pitch or videos he was loyal to club and had great relationship with teammates. Tibo just doesnt have that. Surely you see some glimpses, but its clear thats not it. Last year I finaly got feeling he has settled, gets along with everyone and began with that deep connection to the club, that he actualy gives a shit about Chelsea. But this season its again same old crap. I usualy get quite attached to cfc players if they are quality or have that connection with club, for me its not that easy to see them leave. From Didi, Cech, Terry obviously but also to the likes of Eden, Costa or Luiz,...all had their great moments with the club and when they left/will leave, its always a sad day. But with Tibo, honestly if we sold him in summer and brought lets say Oblak, I wouldnt mind at the slightest. He is very good goalkeeper, but he simply isnt great. And given he isnt exactly character or passionate about club, there isnt much to truly like about him tbh.

I think we were quite good overall, but lack of luck and mistakes ended us. However the team need still needs some big improvement. Moses, Alonso, Cesc and Giroud/Morata have to be upgraded. Might even say the same for Tibo who is very unreliable. Makes good saves but also lets incredibly stupid goals like Messi first today. And I defended Conte alot, but IMO its time to go. He is becoming too defensive and lacks reactions. Its easy to say he pulled good tactic at SB and same tonight, but luck got the better of us, however IMO there is too much negativity about him these days. Last season he was manager who insipred us to be better than what we are, but this season he always just prepares for the worst. I dont know its just my feeling when I watch that he doesnt have complete faith in this squad and doesnt motivate enough. Its nothing to do with defensive tactics, its just that I dont see him as someone who could inspire players "you can do it" and actualy have the plan to execute it anymore.

Good match please and fight till last minute. Cmon Chels!

Pogba and Alexis And some people here wanted us to pay 400k per week for him lol.

Iniesta is available to play from 1st minute tomorrow. Its quite a blow for us IMO.

I agree his performances in CL have been poor often considering the level he plays at in PL, but lets look at this from another angle. PL teams are one thing, CL is whole different league of quality. Hazard is playing in bang average squad. Hell some Sevilla/Monaco/Borussia have more quality and organisation in attack. We have strong defence though, but my point is about attack and techical ability of midfielders (or lack off). People love to dig at Eden for every bad game, but he gets little proper support. Compare his close teammates (Alonso, Cesc, Morata, Willian) to the likes of Neymar, CR, Messi,...teammates play with. Put him in Real or Barca and its guaranteed he becomes twice better.

He wanted to leave in summer, but decided to stay. And then in january 2017 he was about to extend contract, but bust with Conte turned things around with Conte demanding his sale. You cant possibly defend Conte here mate. David Luiz had one bust with Conte too and look, he doesnt get a sniff anymore. Its clear Conte doesnt give a shit. Its cool to show authority, but managers in big clubs have to know how to deal with big egos and solve the situation with talk. Simple. Besides it doesnt matter whose fault it was. What matters is that people acknowledge it was extremely stupid to sell Costa and we shouldnt have done it. Now we have to get someone else in the summer. AGAIN. Instead of time and resources we could spend on midfield or elsewhere, we will look for another striker again. Because we need quality striker, because for system we play, having prolific striker is absolute priority.

Yeah Im grateful too. I was in my teens, so I was just lucky enough to catch football since 1999. I mean, its not just about Chelsea players, but damn football had so many legends during 2000s. Brazil and French generations, the likes of Maldini, Zanetti, Buffon, Raul,... And I had mad respect even for our rivals. Henry, Gerrard, Neville, Vidic, Vieira,...hands down some of my favourite players even if they played for rivals. They were not just top players but personalities who ooze class and you want to become like them. I seriously wonder what kids of today use as role models and how they appreciate opponents, when you have the likes of Pogba and Alexis... And same with Chelsea. It would be much harder for me to fall in football love with Chelsea today compared to Terry, Lamps, Hasselbaink generation.

Wow he is already 40 I remember years ago when he was like 29 and I was considering how many years he has left and what a big loss it will be eventualy to play without him. Time flies so damn fast.

On the flip side this is karma at its best and if I wasnt Chelsea fan, I would laugh so hard. Fans wanted Costa to fuck off and literaly shown no respect in summer. And they wanted someone "nicer" on the pitch, because Costa was apparently all about cards and more of a trouble than good for this team. Now we are stuck with Morata who is actualy definition what fans said about Costa in summer; getting cards for no reason, doesnt help the team, doesnt give shit. Karma. I told you Costa was fucking doctor for anyone we could get and he actualy liked playing for club despite antics in past. The situation was on Conte to blame, much like now with Luiz.

The attitude of Chelsea fans towards Bats is realy funny. He flopped here, but people love to go pointing out how shit he was, and how average he is now and only scoring against poor teams, trying to downplay his good loan etc. Probably just because some are butthurt he flopped and wanted to get rid of him and obviously they dont want to be wrong, so they bring all the negative stuff about Bats, allthrough he is doing ok. Then you will see these same fans bandwagon over players like Barkley or Drinks when they have one good game. Im not saying Bats is now world class, but for fuck sake cant we all appreciate he has good loan at BvB and be happy about it? I guess same fans who shit over Bats will cry if he bangs goals for another PL side. Its hard to imagine now, but same was about Salah and look the situation now. Bats isnt realy smart striker, but he has athleticism and certainly very good finish. I think he can make it in top team within next 2 years if he plays regular football.

This. He has all the talent, but just doesnt give a shit. And our current team is also a problem, character wise. Who will tell Morata to change, improve? Drogba, Ivanovic, Terry, Ballack, Lamps were authorities, not just because of their bold character, but also their status and respect. Current squad doesnt have such people sadly. Azpi, Kante, Eden have quality, but they arent vocal/imposing enough. I realy thought Baka could become that "dont fuck with me or my teammates" dude, but his mentality is potato, like half or this team. Everyone gets offended for smallest shits and loses confidence all the time. Man the fuck up.