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Would Campos be that man though? Sure he is a quality talent spotter, but for that to work, we would need to give those talents a chance. And he worked in Monaco, who made great great profit during his time. Obviously Monaco is a selling club, so it makes sense, but Chelsea isnt. We need director who is capable of building a strong team out of good established players and young talents, plus being able to sell that idea to players, so that we are attractive. Ocampos on other hand excelled in bringing young talents and then sell them for big bucks. Plus Lille is doing absolutely awful though right now, their idea of bulding competitve team for future fell apart like house of cards. Not sure thats is comparable with lets say Txiki who was in control of shaping Barcelona into powerhouse or Peter Kenyon who did the same in United before coming here. We need someone with experience, thats what we lack big time. We need Guardiola type of technical director, not AVB.

Would love to see Emerson in this one and later Hudson Odoi in second half. But its not going to happen, same old lineup. We might win against WHU with that lineup, but we will be killed again against better teams. We need to look in future and try some players out. Conte wont give a shit though, even if our CL spot is good as gone and we could take some risks.

Tbh Matic wasnt average. He wasnt world class, but more then dependable player. Chelsea fans and maybe even the board underestimated him big time. And obviously yeah we dont know how to replace him. We shot ourselves in the foot twice.

Either your priority is stay competitve or balance the books. Its obvious what Marina priority is. We got 40m...is that realy even a good argument? 40m is relative, because its all about how you spend it. I dont care at all how much we get for players honestly. What I care is that we stay on competitive level with good squad. So if you ask me would I prefer 40m on Chelsea bank or Matic is squad, the answer is obvious. Chelsea has spend the money awfuly and, it realy doesnt matter if we got 40m for him, because we spend it unvisely. Matic might leave for nothing, wouldnt change the damn thing, because of our board incompetence. We also got 70m for Oscar. And while that was actualy a smart sale because Oscar was terrible, but where is his replacement? Its shame we didnt invest into new AM in all this time. But does any other top club actualy give a shit about balances? If its impossible to replace key player, and you want to stay competitive on highest level, then you simply dont sell the player. Even if its big offer and player is 28. THE ONLY reason to sell Matic was that he wanted to leave personaly. There is nothing we can do after that point. We should make him happier long time before his request, which we failed. But the fact that he was 28 and it was good offer means fuck all when you want to stay competitve. Im not talking just about Matic, but in general. I do question what was realy going on, Conte wanted to keep Matic, but board sold him. So, if there was a chance to keep Matic, but the board decided the offer was too good, the board is absolutely stupid.

Sorry, no I dont think its easy to replace top players. But its possible if you know were to look. And we had several windows of opportunities. Similar, we let go Robben once and we never looked back because we made proper changes. He turned into a brilliant brilliant player, better than any winger we had, but we still had quality team regardeless and no one missed Robben. Its dissapointing that we didnt sign a single AM and we sold both Kevin and Oscar. If we had proper squad, it wouldnt matter how good KDB and Salah are. But it makes it difficult because our team is a mess and thats definately board fault. As for Kdb or Salah, if you meant me, I was one of few who said we should keep them at any cost, especialy KDB who had great spell in Werder and he reminded me of Gerrard.

If we go in 4:3:3 next season, we need 3-4 players to make it happen, ie LB (Bertrand), 1-2 CMs and new RW (Bailey). Something that is absolutely possible. If we want to stick with current formation, we need two new wingbacks because lets be honest, those we have are not good enough (Alonso is quality, but he is simply too slow and IMO that slows down whole team), we need RW and CM. So its quite similar, but the board needs to make a decision. Personaly I would go back to 4 atb, because more coaches are suited for it and secondly, 4 atb is the way to go in CL. Also, despite we won the league last season, we were bullied by Spurs in both games. The midfield was piss. Thats why we need to have 3 midfielders (4:3:3). We could also play 3:5.2, but that means one less winger. I dont like we would have body less in attack, so I would simply move back to 4:3:3 Thankfuly, all coaches we were linked were more of a 4ATB fans.

Tbh no one would miss Matic, Salah or KDB if we made proper investment and board had clue who to buy. You either have resources to buy top players or you have board that knows values of players you already have. We have neither. Barca was forced to sell Neymar, but they got proper replacements and they dont look back. We went backwards with sales of Matic, Kdb and Salah because we dont have better players in the team now.

I like Luiz alot, he has great character as you said and it shows on pitch. He offers somethig else when he plays. But we have to start looking longterm. We will hopefuly ditch 3 at the back this summer and go back to standard 4:3:3. Luiz has simply no place in regular 4 at the back, neither should we bench AC if we stick to 3 CBs. And IMO Christensen with Luiz isnt good choice either. Its difficult situation because Luiz is big big character, but he simply doesnt fit in first 11 after AC impressing. Idealy he would be kept as backup and someone to motivate in locker room, but then again, we would still lack his character on pitch. Maybe next manager improves him again, the chances are slim though.

Well Emerson was brought because he is a long term possibility, not instant impact. Obviously he wont excel in first match. He needs a run like Alonso did last summer. But Conte wont take the risk. Alonso is established and Emerson might have couple crappy games at first, but after two months, he could be twice the player Alonso is. However Conte has no courage to actualy test him. On other hand, If Emerson is so bad, why did we purchase him in first place? He was injured, but he was arguably best LB in serie a last season along Sandro. IMO his talent is there, but again our coaching staff has absolutely no idea how to handle him, like with Salah case and many others.

Tbh Klopp was hellbent on getting Dijk and Keita at any cost. It resulted in Pool paying 110m on those two. Not sure if board would back up Conte like that. Yeah we have spend quite alot on players and there is no denying the quality is there, but if Conte doesnt get players he wants, its a big problem. But in any case, we have better squad than what Conte showed in both city games. It was a cowardly approach. The problem with Conte is that he either gets the candy he wants or he will go absolutely crazy. There is no middle way. We have seen it in bust with Costa and Luiz, we also see it how he handles things with board. Its ridiculous though, how much he changed. Last season, he was passionate, he led the team like 12th player. He was truly brilliant. Not just on pitch, but also off, so much class and respect. He was also far from defensive except for some games in second half when we needed pragmatic approach. This season, he talks crap on conferences, looks distracted on pitch, cant motivate and lead. And the results are obvious. And his style of being ultra defensive is absolute piss to watch. I mean its obvious he didnt get players he wanted and tbh any manager has right to be pissed when he gets the likes of Drinkwater, Barkley, Emerson, Giroud. But you handle it behind the doors. Conte goes all out and damage is unrepairable. Its clear he wont win a war against the board. There is no point of return with Conte. 2018 was absolute disaster for him and I dont see how we can get along.

Under any manager, if we wish to play attacking football with possesion and be succesfull at it, we would need two more quality midfielders along Kante. Something I dont see happening. If we get one good midfielder that can play well with the ball this summer, it will be miracle.

Sorry if you meant the post was for you...its some other people who love to shit on Eden and then lick his ass few games later. I agree with you though, for Eden it would be difficult to get into current Real team, because there is Ronaldo. There is also Benzema who doesnt score enough on his own. But once CR leaves and Real gets proper striker, I stand by my opinion Eden is the best option for Real on LW. Hazard isnt perfect, but what we love to forget that he is pretty much the only modern football type of player on this team. And we play football that was popular years ago. Belgium with Martinez isnt any better example, KDB isnt half the player there either. Put Eden in actual attacking team with good organisation and he will thrive. Its almost sad how little people value him. Sure he isnt better than Messi or Ronaldo. But he would slot right into any top side in the world, bar Real Madrid because of Ronaldo. Bayern, Psg, Barca, City; Eden would easly slot ahead of their LWs. Eden has world class ball control and selfishness, something IMO would work fantastic next to players that Real has. Isco was splendid last season and Eden is pretty much better and quicker version of Isco. I want him to stay here until he is 34, but sometimes I just wish to see him on another top team that actualy plays football. If people regret selling KDB and Salah, IMO Hazard thriwing in another top team would cause Chelsea fans to commit suicides lol.Yeah I believe he would be that good.

What is truly funny is most Chelsea fans never learn. Hazard was apparently worth less than crap and most wanted him to be sold two years ago. Season later, SAME people lick his ass. Now its basicaly the same. Yeah he isnt doing that great and we have another shit season, so lets throw more crap at Hazard because he is bad. Lets sell him in summer, right? Yet, thick brains dont think twice about concesquences. We sold Costa and Matic who were important, but nowhere near Eden. Yet, we dropped down 4 places. Without Eden, not only we will lose main and probably only creative force, we also lose the man that automaticaly forces opponent to play differently when handling Eden. But yeah sell him, because he isnt scoring winner every game. When will people realize being best player at club has nothing to do with goals, at all? I would understand if it was his first or second season at club. But he is here now almost the longest serving player from current team, and he was definately amazing in every season, bar 2015-16. Even this season, he was outstanding in first half and I remember people here prasing him for stepping up. Now couple average games, people here just forget all that. Its just sad. No one says dont criticise him. He is responsible player and needs to show his worth. If he doesnt, its only right to be unhappy. Shit, Real fans boo Ronaldo too. But they fucking understand deep down that he is still incredible player and wouldnt sell him at all. Problem with Chelsea fans is they are spoiled and dont know shit about player value to the club. Booing after bad game to tell him he has to step up is one thing, but actualy debating should he be sold, is he good enough, how much money can we get and how can we replace him is beyond ridiculous. Get a grip people, right now we cant attract players like Eden and if we sell him, we will not see 1st or 2nd place for next 3 seasons at least. Sometimes I just feel some people would deserve a very crappy Chelsea for couple seasons, because they cant appreciate what we actualy have and know jack shit about loyalty, trust and respect.

Midfielder who plays for Lyon (on loan) 21, style reminds on Vieira or spurs Dembele a bit. Very strong, technical and dyanamic player. If we are targeting Bakayoko replacement, we should definately grab Ndombele. I said pretty much the same about Bakayoko (that he would be great buy; but he dissapointed me alot), however I hope Chelsea wont stop pursuing ligue 1 based midfielders just because of Bakayoko being flop (and IMO he could still turn into fantastic mid if he regains confidence). Essien, Kante, Makelele, all top players, originating from ligue 1. Ndombele, unlike Bakayoko has fantastic technique, good engine and plays very dynamic, but obviously he is very inexperienced, so it could end up another Mvila/Imbula with bad management. His character seems to be much better than those two. Wont cost shitload and imagine new playmaker-Kante-Ndombele next season in middle 3.

Yeah its pretty obvious something went sour between Conte and board along the season. Then Conte just decided to fuck us over, because he cant get over it, like he didnt with Costa. I genuinely became a fan of 3 men defence last season, but Conte did everything this season to absolutely make me hate it again. Cant wait for the day we ditch it and bring 4:3:3 back. We were 2nd in january and actualy had ok season IMO. 2018 however is disaster.

Tbh until 2009-2010, IMO we were quality and we had stability. Forget the players we had, forget the managers. Look at quality we had on our board. Peter fucking Kenyon. Men like him were reason why we became this good between 2003 and 2009. We had money and we spent it brilliantly. Didi, Essien, Maka, Riccy, Iva, Cole,...we hired proper coach. Then it all went to shit. First Arnsen, then Emenalo and Marina. She can fuck off, she doesnt have single clue how to lead a fucking football club. We are on decrease since 2010...Oh and look when Kenyon left. Coincidence? I dont think so.

Hah yeah. Just wait for all people who blindly defended Conte in Costa situation change their mind once Conte gets sack. It was extremely immature from Conte to tell Costa he can fuck off in summer, back then in january. Board was about to extend with Costa, but people believed the bullshit news reports aboout his desire to leave. It was probably just intern bust up with Conte, and the later simply didnt tolerate it, for whatever reason, probably just big ego. Just look how simple he left juve after several years in a second before start of season because of argument. Its funny how people here absolutely ''know'' that press is only telling bullshit, but they blindly believed Costa to china rumours and backed Conte without any fact. I guess this story suited them back then. While Costa, helping us to two titles, got big finger in the ass by 90% of chelsea fans. I still miss those Diego moments at Chelsea when he bullied whole opponent team and SB chanted Diegooo, Diegooo. Some people have short memories unfortunely.

I dont even know what we could do to improve over next 3 years. Everything from board, manager, first 11, backups, identity, reputation, playing style is decreasing at rapid rate, like a desease spreading from inside. We are only covering tiny bits every summer, instead of digging deep and remove rotten core. Its not going to happen, removing the core. Doesnt matter if we replace manager, or get new sporting director, or buy two players,...the same old problems will errupt over and over. Board wont back managers infinitely and managers will not achive long term stability, leading to more inconsistency, ending with bad resluts, board sacking managers because they didnt give crap after not having support, and hiring new managers, ony to not back them up again, more inconsitency etc. Rinse and repeat.

About a year ago in summer 2017, I was confident that we have Tibo, Azpi, Kante, Hazard as our indisputable core that actualy gives a shit and will do their best in every game. Not just that, but I was expecting we will bring 1-2 players in summer who would join those 4 in couple seasons and form a very strong core of this team. Year later, I only feel positive about Kante and Azpi. Maybe Christensen, who turned up to be a surprise, but its way too soon to tell. However there is a big chance Eden will leave, Tibo too on free next summer, and neither of summer signings has proven to be a strong, long term candidate of character and leader at Chelsea. All these contract negotiations leading nowhere, buying shit players, selling world class players,... Fuck off with this shit, Chelsea board, we are sick of it.

And Alonso. Conte was screaming for backups, but how many times did he field Emerson ? Alonso for all his qualities fails the main quality and thats pace in PL, so that you can keep up with tempo. He is 2 gears bellow in every game, just take a look when Eden tried to play to the left and Alonso was miles behind. Put Alba, Alaba, Marcelo,...they would all be there already to support and it would turn in very dangerous chance at goal.

Obviously he has to answer, but should do it like Kante did. Simple answer Im happy. But Eden always says we will see...obviously media loves that because it creates rumours and they will ask him every time again and again. Its his fault for answering in cheeky way instead of simple. Maybe its his style and he likes to toy with media/fans/opposition. He has been saying that every year and he is still here. That said, no one should question his character. He is amazing for Chelsea, loyal and only says positive stuff everytime. If he leaves I cant blame him, not with the current board and direction we are heading. But I hope he stays.

I see you guys have big plans for summer. Seeing this club current state, the board and plans, I dont have big hopes for summer... First, I only want Bailey because he is available, huge talent, possible long term RW and most important of all, big Chelsea fan. At least he will live his dream and enjoy playing here. It makes too much sense and I will be pissed if we miss on him. Secondly, sell Tibo and get Alisson. That way we get quality (young) GK who wont complain all the time. Oblak is a dream, but nearly impossible. Anything else, from another striker, midfielder, defenders,...it will be great bonus if we manage to get some quality there too but I doubt.

Im actualy sold on Alisson. Looks to be top GK in the making, also available. Oblak would be best choice, but I think there is very very little chance to get him. If Tibo doesnt extend by the end of July, IMO we should sell his ass and get Alisson. It would be best possible scenario, Im tired of Tibo speculation, possibility of him leaving for free and on top, performance wise unreliable as hell. Fu@k I was defending nearly every player on this forum, from Eden when he was in shit form to Costa during china rumours, but I cant stand Tibo bullshit anymore. Probably the first time I actualy want undisputed starter to leave because of his character. Just get Alisson and we can build our future in peace. Eden has same issue when talking to media, but he is at least talking on pitch too. Irreplacable. And good guy in every other part, bar media talk.

TBH not able to pay for top class players often leads to giving chance to youth. At least something exciting, something that shows the direction of the club. BUT at Chelsea, we rather pay 30,40m on piss like Drinkwater. I actualy dont mind we cant afford 200m every summer, but what I hate is the club buying shit players instead of giving chance to some of our youth. For example, RLC or Chalobah (who was sold) could easily fill the Drinks/Barkley role and we would still have 55m for other targets. Our board doesnt know what will happen next month, nevermind in 2 years. The lack of vision is depressing. We sell Chalobah, only to be forced to buy another english midfielder who is worse, older and costs 40m? GTFO. Sure Chalobah wanted to leave, but if he was actualy given the same trust that Barkley or Drinks got, that would change his mind. Its all about being in the plans and being counted on. Playing time would be small, but when you know the club and coach counts on you, its easier and Chalobah would still get decent amount of chances. It made too much sense to bring some of youth in more important backup roles and spend whatever money available on 2-3 top players. Instead we sold or loaned youth and brought shit players to our bench for backup while spending all the money, and on top, no actual proven quality. Clusterfuck, And dont say RLC and Chalobah werent good enough. Till injury, they were very good and considering the state of our midfield with aging slow Cesc, injured Barkley, average Drinks and Baka, our two youth midfielders would be more than good enough. But the club cant see shit, no vision, nothing. Having less money next couple summers wont kill us, but the idiotic board just may.

Correct way is ''cheeky''