BlueLyon

The problem was in Chelsea and AVB. We are counter attacking team. Period. We played great football under Mou in his first spell and Ancelotti. Yes there were shit games, but generaly we dominated opponents. Then we suddenly want to play fancy under Avb? Sure it will backfire. We had 10 years of pragmatic football and that created identity within club. Obviously you cant change that in one summer like we tried with Avb. Its like you would want Barca to play like Atletico starting next season. Mate, this fancy football hype is unbelievable. Everyone is bandwagoning the fancy football nowdays. Bring me Drogs and Lamps squad ahead of these Guardiola style cunts anyday of the week. People think we were parking the bus all the time back in the day. Thing is we played great too, destroying teams. But obviously against Barca or similar big team, you will defend. You think we will play ball against Barca or City and win at their own game if we meet under Sarri? Haha. Or maybe win once but lose next one, like Pool did. You just have to know when to stay back and defend. And be great at it. That wins you titles. Thats why Madrid wins it. Can Sarri push back and defend efficiently? What we need is to create a team that can dominate in sense of being in control. Not a team that can keep the possesion and play fancy. Dont know where this obssesion comes from. Why is everyone trying to make revolution here? Whats wrong with pragmatic football? The media keeps banging that tiki taka shit that made people brainwashed. Praising Bonucci, Otamendi, Ramos best defenders in the world, when it was obvious they werent even best in their own team (Pepe, Barzagli, Chielini were) Does Atleti give a shit how they play? They play their own way and with quality players they are up with the best. But we have to change, play fancy blah blah. Yeah, we must get rid of the pussies in the squad. We must become dominant again. People think we will dominate and be best only if we play offensive football. Bullshit. Back in 2003-2010 we went toe to toe with any team in the world. They had superstars, we had determination. Everyone feared us at Bridge. We had powerful squad and when we went in offense, man, we could destroy anyone. Long shots, corners, freekicks, crosses, headers,...we had it all. We could defend 80min, then go to offense for 10 min and they didnt know what hit them. Thats what you call being in control. You dont need Sarri/Guardiola possesion football to be good. Real, Barca, City will always have best attackers suited to such game. We will never beat them in their own yard. But pragmatic approach where they attack and we do them on counter? Possible. Now dont get me wrong, we played great football until 2010. The CL 2012 and after that was more often than not complete park the bus. Last season the players lacked spine and Psg spanked us every season. I didnt like football we played last few years with exception of Conte october2016-january 2017 run. But the football we played before 2010 was great. We didnt always win, but we sure put superb performance in nearly every big game. Not the bs we have to watch past few years with few exceptions. I will suppport Chelsea whatever happens, but IMO we wont win shit if we go full Guardiola/Sarri approach. Even Guardiola himself sucks in CL for years now. We need to play pragmatic or like Real plays. Nice football, but dont let that blind you from how pragmatic they are. Pulling all kinds of tricks. I hope we dont get to play the way City does, a bunch of pussies with no identity that gets spanked by every tactical manager in CL. Their defenders are wankers, know how to pass and walk with the ball, but cant defend. I guess thats modern football nowdays. I admire Atletico to stick with their style, the same style we once had. But we turned into sheep who follow latest trends. If board truly decided to play fancy, then fucking stick with it. Get managers and players that suit it, get competent board and create new identity. But fucking show some guts and determination and bring players that give a shit and have a spine.

Wait, what do you mean by Rugani is better than Barzagli? Barzagli is 37 years old. He is past his best, been on decline for past two years, but before that he was actualy better CB than Bonucci and Chiellini. Ask any Juve fan, they will tell you no one could tackle and read game better than Barzagli in BBC trio. Rugani seems nothing special to me. Allright CB, but thats it. Once Caldara comes back, Rugani will play even less.

Why are we interested in Rugani though? He didnt develop that much in italy, we should go after Skriniar instead.

He wanted the same attacking style with Avb back then. We were extremely solid team prior to that. Sure we didnt win CL yet, but we had a crop of players who were tough and big characters. We had one of most powerful squads, but sure our football wasnt as cool. Then we appointed AVB, decided to bring new philosophy and bought bunch of players like Mata, Marin,...with varioud degrees of success. That was when Chelsea decided to move on from effective powerhouses to fancy technical players. It backfired big time and we ended up with several pragmatic coaches again, but the squad was never ther the same. We ended up as pragmatic team with kind of fancy players-turned workers, and we even won two titles (and CL, but that was still old guard leading the way). But with this "modern team" we failed spectaculary in europe and twi times ended up without CL. Personaly, if we could get another era of 2004-2010, I would take it with both hands.I cant stand players like Morata,...who bitch all the time or gutless Fabregas,...even if it means fancy football. Chelsea had identity, maybe not the most pleasant on the eye, but it had its charm. If I wanted to support fancy football, I would start cheering for Barca back in 2005. Dont get me wrong, I like to watch those tricky plays, but it just not Chelsea way. We played some amazing football during old guard era too. The club right now needs strong, loyal and never give up characters more than fancy football.

Indeed. What if we go for players sarri wants and then he is sacked? The club should make a plan of style and identity. Follow that and bring players/coaches that fit the style. Back under Mou, we had pragmatic coach, pragmatic match approach and pragmatic players. We had success because the core wad always the same. Players fitted different managers (more or less). And managers fitted the players. Going from Conte to Sarri is huge step because many players will be useless in Sarri play. If we bring players that suit Sarri and then go back to Conte/Mou type of manager, it will be another 3 years of transition and no improvement. I know what you mean, but we should get players (and coach) that match Chelsea ideology. Not just Sarri wishes. Sure that goes hand to hand usualy, the club appoints manager that has same vision as the club, but like with Conte, Chelsea wasnt united at all. If board has other ideas, dont appoint Sarri at all. If we get Sarri, I hope the board realises we have to target players matching to his style, not because of Sarri, but because of new Chelsea ideology. If we drop Sarri because he flops, and appoint another defensive manager, our next 2-3 years will be more and more misery

Maybe but thats down to financial restrictions, not because the club would take new way of ideology. Which is probably even worse.

With Sarri, we will play completely different football. Wouldnt be surprised if we end up well behind top 4 by november. But thats a process Im willing to take for benefit of next seasons. However I doubt the board will feel the same. It would be another Avb situation, Mou was huge name still and got more time to repair things. Sarri is regardless of his success, still only a small name. If we wont see quick progress, I dont see it impossible to sack Sarri and appoint some caretaker manager until next summer. Because people have to expect us to be spanked by most of top teams in first months due to nature of Sarri football and no chemistry in the start. You think board as clueless it is will continue to watch that? Marina and Co dont have capacity to understand its progress that will come good for the next 2-3 seasons, they want imeddiate results. The only thing changed is the money we are prepaired to pay for players, the ideology is wastely the same. After all this season with Conte not being the best, we saw rumours all the time. And he won title last year. If Sarri wont deliver, he wont last. The club lost its way and current board has no one with actual football knowledge like Kenyon.

With current Chelsea board around, If Sarri has slow start, he will get sack before he can turn it around.

My very first choice would be Kovacic, but Seri is still miles ahead of Cesc nowdays. At least our midfield would be more dynamic again.

What they need IMO is GK and backup winger. If Fekir is to play in middle, they still dont have anyone quality to replace their trio. And when one of those three isnt playing, they are much weaker. If they got hands on another quality winger who would rotate with their main 3, they would be incredibly dangerous because unlike now, they wouldnt need to depend on health and fitness of Salah, Firmino and Mane every single game.

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Well, unlike you, Iggy actualy makes credible responses. Maybe you dont have to listen to me, but should certainly learn a thing or two from him. Good day, sir.

Haha well try to keep quality instead of quantity. I like forum, but sometimes it has too much pointless pages. Maybe you missunderstood me, its not "your" fault that I believe rumour or not, based on what you say. I know which rumours to believe regardless. But when crap rumour appears, just dismiss it instead of provoking the forum. Because that causes chainreaction of members who continue to discuss about fake rumour for next five pages. For other members including myself, going through 5 pages of bs to find out if we got new manager is pointless. I have daily mail for that. Maybe I got it wrong and this is sarcastic, bitch & moan thread instead of informative place to find news about Cfc manager situation. Keeping this place clean is what mods should do afterall.

Mate yes I know what is true and what smells like BS. I think you misunderstood me. You think I believe the shit source if mods discuss it? Lol. I see the source and dont give a shit about it if it doesnt look legit. Regardless if mods continue to talk about it. BUT some OTHER members start talking and complaining. And it makes the forum unreadable. I check here daily to see manager news and all there is are bunch of pages with people complaining how clueless the club is based on crap rumours that MODS dont eliminate.

No but it doesnt help that after every shit source, some mods say how big mess we are. If one has to say something, just say the source is garbage and dont believe it (and certain mods do that). Much better than typing after every bs twitt how crap we are which fuels unncecessary discussion and complaints how clueless is the club. Some people here sure take posts of mods for wiser than those other members. If mods rile up the crap rumours (once it could be used as sarcasm, not every day) that some members post, it makes quite a difference. But why am I surprised, its what happens everywhere. As long something is discussing, even if that something are bullshit stories, so that there is more posts and visits on threads. Btw, I didnt say this is mods fault, they cant make people stop posting bad rumours. But tge reactions could be handled differently.

Quite dissapointed that instead of calming people down, some mods/admins here constantly throw the "oh the end is near for chelsea" every day, making fans even more nervous and dubious about the club. Its obvious that 90% of rumours are bullshit and key men on the forum (should) know it, yet all we see is more fuel on fire, instead of clearing and cleaning that would make fans here calmer. Drama and more drama. This isnt Kardashians show for fucks sake. Same with the club, they should make an official announcement about situation with Conte and his replacement etc.

All names bar maybe Leno would be a clear downgrade to what we have. They are ok keepers, but nothing more. Alisson or Oblak are the only GKs that would equal/improve on Tibo. We realy shouldnt make any further downgrades. Its like saying why targeting Bailey when you can get someone like Zaha or Perisic for cheaper.

Napoli played super football and you dont replace such manager unless he wants to leave and has next destination set. Thats why Napoli brought Ancelotti. Sarri is leaving. IMO Sarri will be Chelsea manager, but as always we are doing things very slowly.

Chelsea FC:

Yep we won title last year and FA now, but also finished without CL for second time in 3 year. This is worrying, lets not pretend that title fixes issues. We have problems left and right, from squad quality, unstable manager situation, incompetent board, Roman trouble with UK, ...never mind we stall on every deal, overspend on shit players, cant get transfers in quality and early... Its like Inter who won CL and is now shit ever since.

Zidane unexpectedly quit Real Madrid.

Reality will be: ''Cesc can play for another year'' and replacement for Pedro will be someone like Redmond, you know english core

Once Salah was off, it was obvious Real will win it, no surprises. Salah isnt Pool playmaker, but his impact is just giant when he is on the pitch. Everytime he gets benched, Pool plays twice worse because there is no pressing in attack, less speed, less movement. Tonight, maybe Pool wouldnt hold on to, but if Salah was on pitch longer, they would be the first to score. But then there is Karius, worst performance from GK ever lol.