BlueLyon

I think he is bit too attacking type. In atletco, he has usually two CMs behind (Suarez and Gabi), giving him more freedom and not so crucial role in deep midfield, resulting more assists, and if he loses ball, it can be recovered by two CMs behind him. I think he isnt suited to play such important role in middle of field, he definately needs few years of playing in CM first to master it. I think effect would be same as was when we put Lamps in pivot few years ago; he wasnt suited for that role at all... I think we need someone who will be very comfortable and reliable in CM. Kroos/Koke/...are all bit too offensive midfielders, we need Xabi Alonso type I think; who posses same creativity/delivery as those two, but generaly operates deeper and can defend/position better. Gundogan would be perfect or even Strootman, but both got injured...

Loan now and the sell next year in deal involving money+Thorgan for Reus. Unless Thorgan impress and we just put him in our team then.

No, I meant if he has any word about moving somewhere for less money. If we offer 20, ManU 30; and Shaw says he wants move to us. Would he be allowed to join us or will Soton wait for more money? I remember Real was keen on Neymar and offered more than Barca, but Neymar wanted Barca and Santos had to sell him there.

Hazard and Reus are on close level, different styles though. However when comes to other AMs we have; Reus is above them. Even Sterling impressed more than Willian/Oscar/Schurrle/...this season.

Is there any chance that he refuses ManU and stays at Soton another season? Are Soton only ones who will decide if he is sold and where, or he has any word in it? Like if we offer 20 and Manu 30, but he tells the board he will only move to us, would Soton sell to us or force move to United, because of more money?

I have only watched him against Real, despite his size he is extremely agressive and can run forever... I heard he is most interesting spanish talent ATM. But he is still quite raw and will need some time to fully develop, I dunno if step to PL is right for him now. Maybe in few years time... If we do get him for 15m and things work out; we will probably have 'next Alves' in our team. Kid has realy good shot for a full back too.

His injury means big blow in our CL title chances...he was vital every year, pulling those saves. Schwarzer is good, but Cech is Cech.

I only mentioned him because he could fill the #10 spot should Oscar leave, not because he is #10. And still, he creates much more than Oscar, while both have lot of defensive responsibilities.

The squad is good enough to win small games, you cant blame lack of striker. The approach was wrong, from players and from Mou. We played too defensive against bottom teams, should gone all attack to make win easier and boost stats, improve attacking tactics. Either Mou lost his winning mentality vs small teams, or players cant follow him. Or everyone is too busy with world cup...

I meant if we would play same style.

Yes we are but I dont give one fuck what others say. We are most hated club, but we are still like 4th in number of supporters around the world.. Either you love or hate Chelsea, there is no way between. Other clubs have respect from neutral fans, we generaly dont. But I dont blame fans, I dislike FA and media who trashes us all the time. Everyone I talked today about yesterday match said Chelsea is destroying football. People turning into sheeps saying Chelsea plays boring football, while same type played by United or Real is heroic. However, Barca fans are dissapearing with each day. Everyone started to hate tiki-taka football, I never liked it anyway and Im happy people finaly realised how boring is.

Its all about stereotypes...Chelsea/Mou public picture is bad, they think of us as football destroyers, people will alway speak about us like that. Real on other side, everyone loves their superstars and ''fancy football''. Even if we both play same football type, they will call our performance cowardly, while praising Real. I agree though, Bayern are possesion based, while Atletico is counter, high pressing team. We should try to attack more, not just sit deep. Still, we played away and got decent result. Bayern lost. That is all what matters.

Why did you use Shaw pic too soon, it has backfired now

Once official (IF), I expect loads of comments that Shaw has no ambition and is money grabbing cunt... It would be real shame not to get him, as he is apparently huge Chelsea fan, but 30m is WAAAAAYYY too much.

It could be last battle between Lamps and Gerrard should Lamps leave in summer. Cant say I like Gerrard, but these games have always been fantastic because of those two. Possibly, the reason why Gerrard and Lamps had such great careers is that they pushed each other as far as possible, wanting to achieve everything. Both are top professionals IMO.

Top quality prospect, but will he fit in english football and our tactical approach?

Should play Schurrle-Oscar-Salah vs Pool. It could be deadly but only if those three wont be selfish and actualy play as a team.

Thing is Oscar isnt 'different #10'. He isnt even #10 to begin with. He is either CM or all round AM, but he simply isnt creative playmaker. His passing, vision, delivery isnt on level of playmaker. If Oscar is #10, then Lamps was one too (obviously he isnt). Oscar is simply CM who plays in #10 spot. However that doesnt change the fact that he is good player. He has high ceiling and age on his side. I think its time to stop calling him #10, but a mould of AM/CM midfielder. He isnt to be compared with Isco, Gotze, Mata,...who are all typical playmakers. If anything Oscar will LEARN how to create, while Mata, Isco, Gotze have that natural gift. Should Jose give him chance to prove, I think he will come good, but if we decide to sell him, then there are many options who might work even better for us eventualy; Koke, Barkley, Lallana, etc. Maybe even put Willian in middle spot and buy proper RW.

People expect we will get a striker who will bang goals every game. Thats it; the expectations of striker are too big here, it makes Torres, Ba,...look even bigger flop than it is. There are few strikers available, Costa is best of those who are available (we wont spent 70m on Cavani or whoever else). If people would watch Costa more (not just one game vs Terry and Cahill), they would understand why is he that good. Moaning cunt? Isnt Suarez one moaning cunt? I would prefer that over Torres anyday. Get real, no striker in the world scores every game. We killed Messi, Cavani, Ibra, Suarez...Costa. Dont just judge him on one game, if we get him, we will be much better side.

Im quite sure United will spend 100m on new players in summer. They bought Mata for 40, they probably want to get back on top as soon as possible.

We shouldnt break the bank for him...there are plenty of full backs who have same potential, maybe even bigger. There is one reason, Shaw is english and I REALY want to se english player in our starting eleven in next years, Lamps, Terry, Cole are leaving and we will need few replacements. One of Shaw/Barkley/Lallana should definately be bought eventualy. Another reason why to bring Shaw is because of Mou way of playing football. Getting someone like Moreno might mean we got top prospect at LB, but I doubt he is proper full back for Mourinhos system. Shaw on other hand, is english and will probably learn tactical approach much faster than any spanish/brazil full back IMO (Azpi is one of few exceptions). But still, there are plenty of players who might turn even better, not english but cheaper. Rodriguez, Alex Sandro, Bernat, Moreno, De Sciglio, Filipe Luis, Coentrao,... It all depends on what Mou wants; I think Moreno would work brilliantly with Hazard, but I doubt he is suited for Mou. I doubt any young LB is suited for Mou. Im sure Jose wants defensive stability and will look for either Shaw (for logical reasons) or some experienced LB ala Coentrao/Filipe Luis.

I just wish he would make our attack more efficient. Show our players how to play as team, how to create and score by following certain patern. Lack of striker is big problem, but Oscar, Willian, Schurrle,...are here to play and yet they dont realy impress. There are many factors for bad attacking like lack of striker, no support from fullbacks (width), no support from DLP etc, but finishing and decision making of Oscar, Schurrle, Willian,...actualy whole team is realy average. We defend like a team, but we dont attack like one. Today, we couldnt make three straight passes in attack, because we lack plan, patern or sth... I hope Mou will make us counter attacking team based on Chelsea from 2009/10 or Borussia. But for that, you need realy complete team, great understanding, no selfish players, intelligent players who can play fast and efficient football with lots of one-two passes or long crosses. And most importantly, you need DEADLY ATTACKERS WHO SCORE EVERY CHANCE GIVEN. Anelka, Drogba, Malouda, Lamps, even Essien, Ballack, Cole could score stunners. I remember Smeltzer scoring that goal vs Real last season. Goal from full back. You dont see that in Chelsea. Azpi scoring such goal? Even attackers like Willian or Oscar cant finish. They have great workrate, thats why we re good in defense, but lack efficiency in attack. Next year we will improve; but for counterfootball, you need 3/4 attackers who can naturaly score goals when chance given. Oscar or Willian arent that. Hazard is still learning. Midifeld has no players who can score goals, we need CM who can take shots aswell.

When he doesnt play, we win he deserves to play final though...

Potentialy no Etoo, Hazard, Cech, Terry, Mikel, Lamps... Bloody hell, the rematch wont be easy without those players. Hope Hazard gets well and puts rises to ocassion, scoring winning goal or making key moment of game or sth. If he can play, its his time to step up.

Etoo, Terry, Hazard and Cech all missing? Anyone else? Thats almost half of our team, nearly all best individuals. Doubt we can win without them, it wont realy matter anyway, but still...