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What on earth are scum like Mao and Stalin doing alongside Lenin and Marx? Should be Trotsky and Engels alongside them, tbh. I still like it, though Edit: To keep the thread on topic, let us discuss this most important issue through PM. Can't have the thread completely derailed (see also: Salomon Kalou thread)

Didn't Bilbao just get a bit tired?

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He is not an excellent team player, he's as selfish as they come.

Then we will indeed be paying him 170k?

Oh. Well, I've seen 78 million bandied about, so that's 46 million (minus the 32 million transfer fee) over 5 years; 9.2 million a year and ~177,000 a week. That's how I arrived at my figure.

Reports are coming in that he'll be on something around 175,000-200,000 a week. For a 21 year old to be on that kind of money, earning as much as Terry, Torres and Lampard do, he had better deliver.

32 million for the potential he has is a steal. Even going off his current ability, he's only .91 of an Andy Carroll and a 1.77 of a Stewart Downing.

That's a good thing. The Bayern morale is shot to shit, imagine losing at a discipline you claim to be so good at that you don't even need to practice and it happens in your backyard?

No, he's no more proven in man management than AVB since virtually all his players loved him. Besides the Barcelona as a club are much more leaned towards supporting the manager, whereas for us for a long time, it's been the players, who have so far managed 2 sackings, and perhaps even contributed to Jose's. Makelele reckons Terry was being a douche about being rested and that was the straw that broke our Russian camel's back with regards to Jose.

Surely Malouda has nothing left to offer? Little going forward, less than Kalou in terms of grafting away and doing the dirty work, and he's old.

Okay , the Chelsea official website and thechels.info both have him down at 60 goals, and you can count them individually at thechels because they have a full list.

8 in 10 weeks, not shabby at all, but unfortunately, still far from what is expected from 50 million pounds and 175 k per week.

There's no sense to it whatsoever, as he is by several magnitudes better than Malouda and we can still get a transfer fee for him. Poor decision. Bosingwa leaving ahead of Ferreira is another similar decision, he's better than Paulo and Paulo could still fetch perhaps 800k- 1 million. All that winning experience must count for something.

World class, given the lack of development we've given him, seems out of reach, IMO. He can still become a very useful player.

60 goals. 46 of which influenced the result. I'll not have cheapening of the great man's achievements round here!

You big meanie

Yeah, here's a list of goals that weren't the opener, equaliser or winner; or in general barely influenced the result: 2nd goal in a 2-0 win vs Blackburn in October 2006 3rd goal in a 3-0 win vs Blackburn in January 2007 2nd goal in a 2-0 win vs Portsmouth, 3/07 3rd goal in a 4-1 win vs West Ham, 4/07 2nd goal in a 3-0 win vs Sheffield United, 3/07 2nd and 4th goals in a 4-0 win vs Hull, 9/07 5th goal in a 6-0 win vs Man City, 10/07 3rd goal in a 3-1 win vs Huddersfield, 2/08 3rd goal in a 3-0 win vs Olympiacos, 3/08 2nd goal in a 2-0 win vs Man City, 4/08 4th goal in a 4-0 win vs Portsmouth, 9/08 4th goal in a 4-1 win vs Cardiff, 2/10 6th goal in a 7-1 win vs Aston Villa, 3/10 3rd goal in an 8-0 win vs Wigan, 5/10 4th and 5th goals in a 6-0 win vs Wigan, 8/10 5th goal in a 5-0 win vs Genk, 10/11 2nd goal in a 3-0 win vs Newcastle, 12/11 That works out at 17/60, or roughly 28%, and I'm being generous by including the 2nd goal in 2-0 wins, take them out and its only 14/60 that were truly useless. Also there's a problem with this data, what if some of the times we were 1-0 or 2-0 up and we were getting dominated and Kalou scored a goal that knocked the stuffing out of the opposition charge? And in a sense, none of those league goals from that list were truly useless in that they still at least boosted our goal difference. Also, he has 40 assists to his name but I wasn't able to find a list of those to determine which were useful and which weren't. To answer your specific question, though, 12 out of 60 or 20%. Interestingly, all of his goals in 2009 (about 10, I think) were 'useful' in that the result might have been different had he not scored.

To be honest I think we've ruined him. He could have been a starter already.

I'd still have Sir Alex Ferguson and Jose ahead of him.

I hear nothing.

Come on, I'm not that biased, you know! I recognise he has limitations.

ChelseaMeltdown seems fairly sensible actually. Claims like Chelsea Meltdown ‏@ChelseaMeltdown I can't think of a better English midfielder than Lampard.<p> Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite Aren't that unreasonable. Who is better and English? Chelsea Meltdown ‏@ChelseaMeltdown Real clubs wave flags. Barca and Madrid do it. Holding scarves is the past. Flags look classy. This seems perfectly fine. Chelsea Meltdown ‏@ChelseaMeltdown Rafa Benitez is such an average manager. The media should know better than to link him with Chelsea Football Club. He's dreaming. And that. Chelsea Meltdown ‏@ChelseaMeltdown Liverpool are our feeder club, i wouldn't mind taking Suarez, Lucas and Reina as back up. They wouldn't get in our starting XI though.<p> Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite Again, perfectly reasonable.

??? Henry and Messi started on the flanks in Rome. Eto'o was the striker.

No need to worry, I'm here Not a chance. He'll be hated by the fans for succeeding Kenny and he'll be Hodgson'd out of the job.