People are trying so hard not to underestimate Juve that you are ending up overrating them. They are good and can be tricky, but let's be honest and skip the graciousness. We should top this group with few problems. I can't see Juve BEATING us. We may draw away but beat them at home. Shaktar away could probably be the trickiest match but we should be fine. I know we have some tough games before/after the CL matches but we have a deep squad with quality players, so should deal with it pretty comfortably.