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Mourinho did it first time round here. Signed 9 players. A season after we signed 14 players with Ranieri. That certainly worked. It doesn’t help when the decision making and recruitments top heavy/poorly prioritised I suppose but a average manager sorely out of his depth doesn’t help exactly either. Should never of been in the position to find out in the first place but he was put there.

Pickford had a howler for that goal. Got his arm to it and still goes in. Mental how anybody rates him - he prances about acting like a shithouse as if he’s some sort of top player, he is fucking awful. Wouldn’t be surprised if we signed him for 50m this summer though 🤣

Another “transfer guru” - maybe being pessimistic but we also took the guy from Brighton for Potter, appointed whoever from Leipzig/Salzburg… are they all going to work together or is it going to be all change again? Too many guys in too many similar jobs ….

If he’d rather be remembered for being Spurs’ top goalscorer winning 0 trophies let him. No point scoring 250 goals if your not going to win any trophies whilst doing it. Agree with Souness on his comments about the Kane interview the other day. The guys got a loser mentality for me. Always something.

He said “Arsenal are still in the title race” - no shit Sherlock its only ever been them and City.

Any serious manager who isn’t tin pot (Lampard or Potter) will demand this but I do think its ballsy for Poch to discuss this with them because it could turn them off him. Its clear they want to be overly involved perhaps but the success of this club and next manager will be very dependent on them fighting that urge to get overly involved and letting him and the football people do their thing. However true this is about an actual approach/contacts being made is one thing but I have no doubts that under this current ownership, Mourinho would never return here. Ever. They’ve already done too much that someone of Mourinho’s personality and ilk would severely dislike - the dressing room thing would be the straw to break the camels back if he was here.

4-3 in Palace game. Newcastle scoring 4 or 5 the other day. Yet we can’t buy a fucking goal.

Out of the guys that was listed its hardly key cogs to the CL success now was it? Pulisic & Ziyech proven? Proven to be shit and not up to it maybe. Havertz also hardly proven considering one week he looks ok then he doesn’t resemble a footballer for 8 or 9 on the trot. Like saying keep him only because he scored a CL final goal - was it same story for Torres because he scored a CL semi final goal? Or a Europa League final goal? No Ruben & CHO probably never be regulars regardless of their salaries. So whats the issue getting rid of them? The club should want to keep Kova and Mount but realistically if we struggle to offload others and theres no movement on their contracts - they will be sold.

Carney is a good level below all of them for me, if we could get the £15-20m we paid for him back, it would be a win and a help towards cutting the squad. Its inevitable that three (maybe even all four) of Chalobah, Gallagher, Mount and Broja could be sold this summer for recouping funds. Putting Carney in that group would also be a good move as there has to be “sacrificial lambs” so to speak this summer as its unlikely we will get rid of every outcast due to high wages or lack of suitors unless we just sell them cheaply (which I doubt Boehly and co will do). I’d like us to push to keep Mason as I think Poch will utilise him. And Broja but it depends, he could have suitors again like he did with West Ham in the previous summer. The likes of Mendy/Kepa, Ziyech, Pulisic, Loftus-Cheek & Aubamayang won’t make as much fee wise but the majority have significantly bigger salaries so shifting some of them will also help but its more can we shift a lot of them that worries me. All of these average underperforming fringe players will be incredibly difficult to move though. Thats what also makes me concerned about City interest in Kovacic & then before he signed a new deal, their links to Chilwell. If there is no movement on a new contract for Kova in the next month or two, I do think City will try pick him up as they could lose Gundogan and it likely wouldn’t be for a huge huge fee either - maybe around 35-40m mark due to his age and contract duration. I really get the feeling its going to be a weird and difficult summer for us - particularly to shift players. The squad is absolutely colossal in size including all the loanees who will return (22 out on loan ATM and some of them they will be difficult to shift as they have been previously). Then the 31 players we already have. Yes everyone isn’t going to want to stay due to the squad size but we won’t be in as strong a position to sell players as we have been in previous years due to the fact we need to 1) trim the squad and 2) recoup money to reinvest. It will certainly be interesting to see how Poch gets on but any success is going to be paramount on shaping the squad. And before we can add to it we really need to lose a lot of dead weight.

Loris, Vertonghen, Eriksen as well as Alderweireld were already pretty high level players prior to Poch. They still improved but they would of been top players regardless. Kane, Son, Dembele (although arguably he was pretty good with Villas-Boas), Rose and Walker definitely benefited from his coaching though. As did Alli but he also tapered off horrifically with Poch too. That article using Ben Davies and Bentaleb as examples is piss poor though - as a bar for high level players, for them to be mentioned, shocking. Bentaleb & Davies average players who would/should of made the chop under a more ruthless manager/club. Mason & Dier also.

He actually impressed the other night but still very skeptical. Only the Brentford and Liverpool games he has stood out. For 80m, you need a lot more. Even for 30m you need a lot more.

I get that bit but he wants to step back into management after this right, so he’s hardly doing himself any favours and he’s certainly not doing the club any favours (although neither were the owners appointing him). And all the reasons/quotes he’s coming out with now - basically just saying he cannot do anything and its not because of him, deflecting the blame. I don’t think anybody would of said a bad word if he didn’t take this on particularly for the reasons of which he has now said, weeks after taking it on. Just seems pointless, oh I can’t do anything because of this or that but I’ll stay here because well why not… he’s really tarnishing his legacy here from the success he had as a player and proving himself to be completely incompetent in the hot seat for the second time round (and throw in Everton spell on top). I genuinely believe no PL club is going to look to appoint him in the next 18-24 months based on what he has done at Everton and here. Nobody. Looking at it, from both points of view, it seems like a really stupid move on his behalf and certainly was on the clubs behalf. Whoever thought “Oh we can maybe win the CL, lets appoint the man who’s probably 75% responsible for maybe relegated Everton this season” needs their head checked - be it Eghbali, Boehly, the football people, whoever.

Wait and see City drop points at Fulham and these cunts stuff us 3 or 4-0. Probably not even going to bother watching it - it will be a 3421/352 again with Kante and Gallagher upfront because Lampard is clueless.

Why not? If he is/was in the door sooner he could properly evaluate the players he wants and then say right get rid of players X, Y and Z before pre-season starts their not going to be part of my plan. The squads huge, its not going to be easy for him to just come in over pre-season and trim 7 or 8 players with all the loan players returning and an already bloated squad that is like 30+ players. I had a look at the squad and loanees to return who may be integrated/re-integrated in pre season - there is probably going to be over 45 players here in pre-season looking at the squad now and the loanees before players start leaving. That is ridiculous. Granted some will not be part of the squad but we’ve seen it time and time again, that managers tend to try out a lot of players in pre-season. Thats not including Nkunku also. Ok fitness wise he maybe won’t get much out of the boys but theres still what 6 games he could try combinations and systems out (or if he was appointed 5 games ago, 11 games). Means pre-season could be tailored/streamlined as some things will have already been predetermined in terms of the squad what formation maybe works, who plays well together, who doesn’t. The season is done and dusted but at least having a highly renowned, highly compete manager in place who is going to be here beyond the summer would keep some of these on there toes. Where as with Frank the players are going through the motions because they know he is not going to be here next season so it doesn’t matter if they show up or not.

Why did he bother taking it if he thought he couldn’t improve us though? Just defeats the purpose of doing so. He might as well resign if he thinks he can’t change it no? Your logic is baffling. Yeah he’s not bullshitting about it but hes still got 6 games so seems like hes just given up already.

He was brought in for a reason though - to try turn the tide and steady the ship. These comments basically admitting defeat - oh look its not my fault if I can’t get a turn around out of these. So why did he bother accepting the job? Why did they bother hiring him? His attitude and general comments have been piss poor - his appointment didn’t inspire confidence but imagine listening to all this shite every time before and after a match? Would get the players right up for a match/training. Managers are meant to try and inspire players - no wonder we have lost 5 in a row under him, hugely inspiring.

Listening to his interviews and comments since coming in makes me wonder why he even bothered coming back. “these issues predates me” “I cant see things getting better” “I want to win games but I can see why we aren’t” “l took it on knowing what it may be but I’m proud to be manager here” this one is the worst of the lot - we are fucking 11th, winless in however many games, playing some of the worst football we’ve played in years yet “he’s proud to be Chelsea manager” “it’s really hard at this stage of the season to get that turn” The guys a fucking joke. Really inspiring. He will never manage at a high level again and honestly I am glad.

You didn’t say that but you said this season is one of transition. How often do teams in a “transition year” go from finishing 4th to 11th (perhaps even lower)? Not very often. It’s ridiculous to even use that as an excuse to explain this massive drop off. I mean we have went from a not so semi stable club off the pitch (with the circumstances of sanctions on Roman) to an absolute disaster (with no sanctions) on and off it. Do you think when we signed players Lso Boehly & co told them it would be a season of transition….. Whats changed in that time? Who’s decisions have influenced 95% of the change? Don’t tell me your that naive. We are a laughing stock. Boehly and Eghbali’s ownership so far has been a laughing stock. Its no coincidence. If it were Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, City or Spurs - you’d agree and be pissing yourself laughing at then. Even for all the bad seasons they’ve had, have they ever had a season this bad in the last 20 years? We could finish lower still.

More time him and Eghbali take to do what is right, the more time fans will continue to turn on them - deservedly so also. Sack Frank. Get Poch in. Give him the 6 games or whatever to figure out who he wants to work with and who he doesn’t. Already wasted best part of a season so why are we hanging around?

I see he isn’t taking any responsibility regarding not playing a CF tonight from minute 1. Just blaming a lack of goals in the squad saying it predates him. Perhaps that is partly true on goals being an issue before him but playing no more than 1 recognised attacking player at home v Brentford and Real Madrid is on him. Part of the problem, not the solution but looks like he is now trying to cover his own back with comments like that. Hope he enjoys managing in the championship because there will be no PL clubs touching him with a 9 ft barge pole.

We weren't that bad though under Tuchel in particular, there was a lot more individual or unforced errors that cost us. Now its just a full blown shambles, confidence is gone, nothing goes for them, tactics are a mess, team selections a mess. Everything.

Lampard truly tarnishing his legacy as a player coming back here as a manager AGAIN after the first time imo. There was like a 15/20 min period where Mudryk - who I’ve felt has been shocking since coming here so glad to see him prove me wrong - as well as Auba looked lively and along with Sterling looking more of sorts on the right side… maybe a decent front 3 to use no? Begs the question - why didn’t he start a CF? Why didn’t he start 2 wingers? Why has Auba not played more often? If he was sharper from more game time, he likely would of scored the chance from Kovacic’s pass - you can see he is rusty but the runs right and the intentions good. Most of the other players were shocking but we wasted 45 minutes in the first half - by not having any real recognised attacking players bar Sterling who was shoehorned into a CF role. So that’s on the manager.

So 45 mins wasted, a goal behind and finally… Frank puts on a CF and another winger.

Fans booing at HT. Deservedly so. Should have been louder if anything. Fuck paying to watch that. We were bad under Tuchel in the first games of the season yes but under Potter and Frank, it is fucking life sapping watching these shower of fannys. Absolutely pathetic. Poch in ASAP. Boehly and Egbhali have a word with yourselves if your both going to let this nonsense that you created continue beyond tonight.

Also why is it when we don’t have men in the box we cross it but when we do, we dont?!??!?? Every FUCKING time.