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But that applies to every position on the team. My logic is: the aim of football is to win matches and tournaments, so the most important player is the one that helps the team win the most. No player was more important to winning the CL last year more than Cech.

I hope you don't mean with the sheep?!

They don't 'fuck', they make love to them.. And for the record, it is the media propaganda that makes us terrorists, we kill sheep because...I have no idea why we kill sheep. Why do you put lights and plastic balls on a tree?

I was joking because I know we can never sign Kompany. He was actually the best CB in the world last year imo, I'd jizz my pants if we signed him. And Chiellini would never leave Juve, he is also overrated (I blame FIFA), and this coming from a Juve fan..

I never understand why defenders and goalkeepers never get the credit they deserve. If a striker scored as many goals as Cech stopped in the most important matches last season, he'd win this in a heart beat.

Alleged racism, a video, lip-reading....its all happening again

Have you watched him this season? I'd rather have Luiz tbh.

Just call them hypocrites. They have conceded early goals in almost every game they played this season.

The idiot who threw it should end up behind bars.

I can't make out a single word he is saying that video tbh.

He just has to. Would be ridiculous if someone else wins it.

Hummels' positioning is much much better than Luiz. Hummels is also a leader, but that's a discussion for another day. I would sell Luiz if there is a decent replacement.

Well, as along as you got your priorities all sorted out...

Doesn't excuse his terrible positioning for the first two goals and that terrible piece of 'defending' that forced Iva's red card.

Two awful shambolic performances in a row. Needs to step it up or warm the bench.

Really had a bad game, hope he makes up for it on Wednesday.

Well if it is racial as the rumors go, then it is probably Mikel and Rami. Honestly I hope the rumors are wrong and Mark did not racially abuse anyone. After the JT saga, I don't think I can get myself to read another article about racism in football, they (the journos) ruined the cause.

Smash 'em, smash 'em to hell!

Tbh at the time I though it was a sending off, but looking back at it, that really is a dive, young was looking for the contact by kicking his leg backwards and even that contact was very slight and not enough to take him down. His fall was unnatural as well. Dive imo:

Evans is a manu player, it's against the rules to send him off

Fair play for Cleverly for getting right back up. Had he stayed down and made a meal of that, Torres would have been off.

He was suspended back in 2008: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1063047/EXPOSED-Here-8217-s-ref-Mark-Clattenburg-banned.html

So it is true? I read that a steward was injured by a thrown chair but thought it was being exaggerated. It should, but what are the chances that the FA would take points away from utd?

If you are talking about the wrong decisions then definitely no. Besides, what good would that do, the damage is already done. If you meant the inappropriate language, if true, he is looking at fine, suspension, or ban depending on what he said.