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FFS @xPetrCechx, at least use some spoiler tags, man!

Over 200000 people killed in hours. Regardless of the circumstances, that is a war crime. Because one is actually better and the other is actually worse. The similarities you are trying to draw between the two do not overwrite the glaring differences.

I don't claim to be an expert on the topic, so you might be right, but still you can't deny that he had the support of the majority of the people at first.

Israel will say what exactly? You are being ridiculous to even try to compare the two. Let me put thin in simple terms: The reason Saddam is better than the current situation is because apart from doing horrible things, he did do some good things for a lot of people who now no longer have those good things. But more importantly, Saddam is a better choice because the alternative is the death of thousands of people and constant terror in the country and the undermining of the security of the while region and possibly the world. Even attempting to compare this complex situation with a completely different and more complex situation is ridiculously simplistic.

No he didn't. If he wanted he wouldn't have "tried" he would have actually done it. Comparing what Saddam did to the ongoing suffering of the Palestinian people for over 60 years is beyond ridiculous and simplistic. I will not defend Saddam, but what I said was that because he gave his people peace and security and a good economical life and stuff like free schools and universities, he is better option than what it is happening at the moment.

So, it's okay to massacre people as long as they are not your own? You're trying to prove that democracies are more moral than dictatorships which historically is incorrect. In NO world is trying to wipe an entire people off the face of earth the "lesser evil" and in Palestine, the have many other options that they do not take while the Palestinians are the ones who have no choice. It's a bit more complicated than you're trying to make it be.

Yes, hence the term "war crime". No really my point. My point was that democratically elected leaders commit as much massacres and war crimes and massacres as dictators if not more. So, at the very least, democracies aren't learning from each other. Not to mention democracies like the USA that don't seem to have learned from Japan, Vietnam, Iraq, Lybia...etc. Others get reelected like Bush or become "Peace ambassadors" like Blair.

I don't think it is It was tweeted by a verified journalist.

The nuclear bombs on Japan? How about the democratically elected Hitler? The million martyrs in Algeria at the hands of France? The over million dead Vietnamese?

Democratically elected presidents and prime ministers have committed much more massacres and war crimes in the past century than dictators

I actually think it would be a good move for him. I remember calling for this loan last season to replace MVG. We can loan him to the Championship for 10 more seasons and he won't evolve. That's just not his style of play.

Petr destroying Opta Joe

Yes, unfortunately. Most middle eastern countries need a dictator running the country or they turn into Iraq or Syria or Lybia. My country is included in this, btw. Lebanon has been the "pioneer" in democracy and freedom in the middle east and as a result, we've practically had an ongoing civil war since 1940 with pauses here and there. EDIT: No, I'm not saying they are brutes, but people are very easily swayed in the name of their religion, sect or area. We lack the concept of citizenship in our culture.

Yes. The middle east is NOT ready for democracy like in Europe, save Egypt and Tunisia.

There is middle ground, you know! Of course he is a legend and will remain one regardless, but this is by no means a bright spot on his Chelsea record. Yes, this is nothing like RVP or Ash or even Cesc, but he has still agreed to play for a rival club in a season where every single match that City play in any competition they be one of our biggest rivals. And he's done so after specifically saying that he won't. People have the right to be upset even though some are taking it way overboard. He's not a traitor, but you're lying if you say that this doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If the alternative is having their loved ones blown up with an average of more than 1 suicide bomb per day since the US invasion, YES, I reckon many of them will!

Saddam had peace, security and a pretty good economical life for his people. Every single Iraqi will take a Saddam regime again about now. People don't actually want the US to fully intevene, they are just calling the out the hypocrisy of the US that invades Iraq to "enlist democracy" when there is oil involved, but lets militias slaughter thousands of people when it gains nothing from intervening. The reason people mention the US is because the US itself claims moral reasons when invading a country but does nothing when much more severe moral violations are happening elsewhere.

I agree on everything, but I just can't see where Torres will leave to, especially after the Wolfsburg interest seems to have died down

Because: 1) The USA destroyed the Iraqi regime and made it a weak country that can be occupied by militia. 2) Because the USA created, armed and funded the militia that is causing all those atrocities. 3) Because the US has all the military power in the world and can rectify their mistakes if they want to. 4) Because the USA likes to portray itself as the humanitarian hero and enforcers of democracy and morals when they want to invade a country but shy away when actual atrocities are happening. 5) Because the USA has BY FAR the largest embassy in the world in Iraq and still in practice rules the country. My country is helping. Our army is fighting ISIS on our border even though we still have the weapons that France left us after WW2. My country has accepted thousands of Iraqi refugees even though there are already more foreigners than Lebanese people in the country! Our Lebanese party of Hezboullah who the USA likes to portray as terrorist has been fighting these extremists groups all over Syria and they even have some fighters in Iraq. Hundreds of Lebanese men have died in the past couple of years fighting ISIS and the likes.

Wrong. It did. The video is titled "How Hamas set up their rockets" as in this how they set up all their rockets. And NO. The post is not about the blue tent, that is just one point and the least serious of points. I was just making fun of the incredulous idea that Hamas set up their rockets using blue tents. The actual serious points you've managed to ignore all: 1) The Israeli strikes are targeting the houses and not the ares near them where the rockets are fired. 2) The Israelis are using bombs exceeding one and two tons each by their our admitting (without getting into the illegal phosphorous and DIME weapons) so the attacks are clearly not meant to destroy small rocket launchers that look like they can be taken out by a rock. 3) The fact that the IOF has the weapons, technology and military intelligence to take out the rockets/tunnels/Hamas fighters without damaging the civilian houses but choose not to. 4) The example of the Lebanese army with a very similar mission that have managed to take out the terrorists with last century's weapons with minimal civilian injuries completely debunks the myth that those civilians dying in Gaza are "collateral damage". Go ahead, answer these points. Brave journalism? There are cameras on Gaza 24/7 and streams that show everything that is going on not to mention the hundreds of drones taking pictures of everything single thing. If this was nearly as common as you are claiming, the IOF would have made pictures more popular than Paris Hilton's sex tape! I have correctly translated and put into context several of the videos which you have posted in this thread, but you just simply didn't reply. For example, that video of the Hamas official talking about using human shields which you have posted half a dozen times in this thread, I've already said that he is talking about civilians protecting their own civilian homes and there is absolutely nothing about Hamas or the rockets and it is clearly stated that this is a strategy that the people have come up with. On any account, this is a "strategy" that is used during "peace" when Israel decides it wants to destroy a random civilian house. This has nothing to do with the assault, the people don't dare do this because they know that during war Israel will bomb that house even it had a hundred infants on its roof top. Sparsely populated? Please explain to me how 350 squared Kms can be sparsely populated with 1.8 million people especially when the absolute vast majority of the structures in it are one or two story building usually inhabited by the same family. Wrong. Support and approval ratings for Israel are at an all time low all over the world. There have been demonstrations all over the world from Tokyo to Venezuela including daily demonstrations in the USA. All the South American countries have recalled their ambassadors from Israel, a British had to resign, Spain had to cancel arms deal with Israel, the Prince of Denmark appeared wearing the symbol of the Palestinian revolution...etc. All because people can now actually see the truths on social media. Israel has lost the social media war in this round by their admittance. What do the Jews have to do with anything? These are Jews: Those are Rabbis: And those are even an Israeli citizen against the genocide: But you keep calling it a religious fighter for you Islamophobic agenda.. I will reply to any post I want. If you don't want your lies and frail logic exposed, you are the one who should not post. Everything you or anyone posts in any thread is up for debate. If you just want to feed people biased propaganda, I'm sure you can find a job in one of the many Zionist controlled news stations.

Way to tackle the points made But keep on posting mistranslated and out of context YouTube videos instead of making a proper argument with logic and facts from reliable sources.

@Fulham Broadway, another valid question about why the US are deciding to act now:

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The longer you look at this picture the funnier and more amazing it becomes

What a brilliant post