The Rising Sun

Tuchel out.

Headless chickens with zero guts to make risky plays. Boring. Unimaginative. Coached into becoming/remaining aimless idiots.

Never really knew exactly how good Jesus was because of the way he was used sparingly at City. He's the kind of chaotic striker we need. Wildly energetic and in all the right places and runs. If we got him it would have been ideal.

It's not always fair for havertz considering the position he is playing - but have to judge him for the position and expectations linked to that striker position. We have enough players playing shit though.....

Why did Barca get Aubemyang in January? Half a season and they want him gone?(he scored goals for them 13 in 23 appearances - not all as a starter) Moreover he was for free since arsenal cancelled his contract - which if we really wanted can get Barca to do as well considering the fact they want his wages off bigtime. He'll be a necessary addition and a good one too for the next year/18 months. If tuchel would be ready to start Broja as the striker then i wouldnt care of auba came or not but I can't watch any more of havertz as a striker. It's laughable that he's still playing in that position and everyone thinks it's cool. Zero output for the position. Even if Broja would start and be like Lukaku, it's still better to fail playing your position vs failing while being played out of position(havertz).

Even if he does develop to some superstar level player - only then should we pay the extra 20-30 million for him when that time does come. Buying him right now for 60 with huge risks regarding whether he even has it in him or not to become one of the worlds top players is something I can not understand.

Gordon for 60 million has the feels of some under the table Arab money transfer deal. Paying over the odds is an understatement... For 60 million you must get top drawer players. If he is 60, then EPL market is beyond finished. He's an interesting prospect but he will still cost 60 million 2-3 years later even if he does develop to his potential. Paying 60 for someone young with potential but not a Messi level high ceiling is ludicrous.

Jorginho, havertz, Loftus cheek and maybe even Gallagher gotta be subbed.

As much as we all truthfully are happy that at the end of the day, against our bogey team we have walked away with 3 points. The truth is still more hurting. Tuchel is one for creating solidity via formation, and is brilliant at coaching triangle based 3 pass combos that allow us to beat most press situations. Once we get into the opponents half, we are so unbelievably slow that if we continue like this we will always need individual moments of magic to actually get behind/get into goal scoring situations more often. The way we do the 3 pass escape in our own half, we need to do that with more risks, more often to create one on ones in attack and he's gotta coach it into them to make that happen. 3 points were luck yesterday. Add a richarlison or Carvert Lewin in that team and it would've been a draw at best. 3 points . Good. Lots of work to do.

Even if we missed getting any other top defenders after koulibaly, maybe one cover for rb/lb BUT got another exciting forward - this would be a very successful window if we were moving towards an attractive attack based philosophy. We need to get direct players who despite managers' demands/lack of coaching attacks - just went for it and took on players and made swift movements. Sterling + one more would have changed the dynamic completely. Hoping for a stroke of luck somewhere in this transfer market. Whether it's because of a domino effect or whatever - we need this. Attack is the best form of defense.

truth is our style of play sucks. Not a very attractive proposition for attackers specially after plenty of high profile flops in attacking areas in the recent past. That, and the fact that right now there are 2 teams that are playing wayyyy better football than us in The PL and dominating the league/cups as well.

Would be interesting if we simply put a £50 million price on him( taking an almost equivalent loss from a year ago), would there be any takers? People seem to accept that it HAS to be inter( which is where talks are happening now) but now that it is anyway so public , won't do us any harm to float a price in the market via "sources"

Hadnt watched galagher last season but he doesn't really do anything particularly well. Too many passes back. Not presenting himself for the ball, and when he does get it can't seem to turn around and get forward movement going. He does press well though.

Hazard isn't a shit player by any means. Would have to differ on that 100%. As for formations and who he would take the place of , a 4-5-1 could easily have space for him? Kante-kova-mount-ziyech-werner-havertz-puli-hazard 8 players could compete for 5 spots with a striker upfront.

Could be the game changer for us and I'd have him back in a heartbeat. When you look at Man city Liverpool Utd, each having someone who can single handedly win games. We need that. However, tuchel will need to go 4 at the back to make space for another midfielder. We're a big club. If he comes and doesn't work - so what. We have a good team already. Many players in the squad of quality. Anyone else who would be available will cost 100+ million and even those players are all almost taken for sure by other clubs. We had our last year transfer window where we spent big and got 2 of Germany's biggest new stars. They'll come good next season. Sure of it. They need one more midfielder around them who is decisive and inspires confidence. We need a striker too though. Lukaku maybe with hazard?

Agreed. This season is about consolidation and just getting there somehow, which is the only reason this is bearable. Next season we have got to have some swagger in our style of play. As a fan I need to feel excited while watching a Chelsea game.... Nowadays it's just not something I look forward to that much knowing what's to come.

Hope Tuchel changes his style next season. Can't imagine watching a full season of this next year. Yea we need a striker and that might improve things, but even now when we get the ball forward the reluctance to make a goalward movement infuriates me. Instead , looking around and making the easy back pass is a soul crusher. Hope.

To be honest - can now say after 20-25 games , not a fan at all of the Tuchel style of football. Feels like Mourinho all over again, along with the Sarri like death by possession in defensive areas. We have won and drawn loads of games so everything looks great on paper when looking back but this is definitely not the direction I want our football to go in the next year or two. what's good: Our pressing and trying to win the ball back. Everything else : It's like watching paint dry.

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cho has been shockingly bad

What is this ridiculous insistence of making 25 passes across our own box??? Why has this not been coached out yet. Its just asking for shit to go wrong. Unbelievable.

We make every team look like they are leicester. No pattern of play or ability to dominate and impose on the game.

Well clearly most don't rate him anymore - me included. Still support him though since he's loyal to the club. However, he should have been sold for 65 million or whatever the bid was. Losing him on a free considering how inflated the market is now is terrible business.

looked like he didnt want to play. no running. closing down. no interest whatsoever.

jorginho been missing again..... doesnt seem to fit into lamps style,