I didn't say that one or the other should only be taken into consideration, just that you need to argue differently for both. International is very different to club football, that's why you need to analyse the seperatly, that's what I'm saying. They can be both used in the same argument, but they should not be inclusive. I'm Spike Spiegel, I do what I want. Goals always count, just not as much as most people think they do. Rugby has everything to do with everything.