You guys are no longer debating; just bickering over semantics. I've seen and written some shit on this site before, but this is ridiculous. The point is, Lamps is my favourite of all time but he has to retire one day. I don't want him to leave just yet, I think he has a couple more great years left in him, but saying that the club needs to prepare for life without him, because he can't be around forever; no one can. The sooner the clubs prepares for his eventual retirement/leaving the better, because it will be less of a shock to the club. Same goes for JT.