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we should love a player who plays at his 20%, wont put in a tackle even if it meant winning the CL, who clearly is detrimental to the club as a team -defensively and in attack?

no silva, no aguero, defensive tactics and literally carrying the whole team. he was still way better then whatever no.10 we can put in these days. (oscar, cesc)

you can give us a 2 goal lead and we still will find a way to lose. thats how shit we are at the moment.

if the manager deals with the crisis well - then the supporters will too. if the manager simply says - we were second best, we did not deserve to win, after the kiev game or the soton game or the man city game, then we would be happier than listening to his lame ass excuses. the fact that jose had the audacity to go to the ref's room or something shows that he actually has started believing his own lies that there is a campaign against us or that we are being singled out by refs. matic deserved the red. cesc's offside was marginal and could go any way - no big issue. the fact is that the manager does not recognize the problem - a big part of which is HIM. he actually thinks that we are perfect and the rest of the world is wrong. nothing he has done/said/shown says that he has a clue as to what our problem is or the fact that he can change it. for 2 weeks he banged on about RLC being "ready". played him 45 minutes and dropped him like a sack of potatoes. he does not have the balls to change himself. he does not have the balls to adapt after being so hopelessly found out. and whats worse is that he does not have the balls to admit it. hence, why a lot of us are not supporting the manager. cos he is detrimental to the club currently.

i that case bego azpi-azpi-azpi-azpi willian-RLC willian-willian-willian willian

Goalkeepers 1. Asmir Begovic - has been brilliant. must be feeling sick that he left a good strong mid table side for relegation material. 8 13. Thibaut Courtois - cost us the swansea game. 5 Defenders 2. Branislav Ivanovic - worst PL player of the season 0 5. Kurt Zouma - has been decent. still needs a lot of positional sense. will get it with experience. one for the future. 6 6. Abdul Baba Rahman - has looked shaky in defence. but in his 3 games, he has been okay-ish. had a shocker in the first half against villa but came back really well. 5 24. Gary Cahill - has not done much wrong. if he is not covering for iva, then he is covering for zouma. our CBs have had any protection at all. 7 26. John Terry - poor. he has regressed massively. his fluffed clearance almost cost us against kieve and his fluffed clearance DID cost us against WHU. he was shit against WBA, city. 4 28. Cesar Azpilicueta - defender of the season. no doubt about it. puts in his 100%. if only we could clone him. 8 Midfielders 4. Cesc Fabregas - shit. shit. and some more shit. i said it at the time of buying him, he is the most over-rated footballer on this planet. cant defend, cant attack unless he is given a minimum of 5 seconds on the ball. even the slightest pressing and he is taken out of the game. hopeless. 1 7. Ramires - defensively has provided us some stability but his poor passing means we have to work doubly hard to win the "won ball which now he has lost" back. 6 8. Oscar - started well and then got injured. apparently the only reason we won against tel aviv and walsall was cos oscar played. after that has been as poor as the others. i would still take him over the fraud. 4 10. Eden Hazard - one of the worst performers on the pitch. has lost all confidence he ever had. cant take a player on if his life depended on it. 3 12. John Mikel Obi - had a good game against walsall (if i remember correctly). was poor against everton and then had a good match against WHU. has not got any more chances. probably should replace matic for the foreseeable future. 6 16. Kenedy - has looked promising. infact has looked better than hazard and pedro combined. but obviously he is not getting any playtime unless its a meaningless game. 6 17. Pedro - shit. has not looked at all comfortable. 4 21. Nemanja Matic - he keeps blowing hot and cold. he had brilliant performances against city, palace and everton, and then simply got lost for newcstle and soton and porto. came back strongely agaisnt villa and kiev and then again had a shocker against WHU. no idea whats going on with him. 4 22. Willian - player of the season without a shred of doubt. anything and everything positive we have done this season has been from him. 9 36. Ruben Loftus-Cheek - just like kenedy, has looked promising. he was built up so much before the villa game just to give the fans something to think on "a youngster is actually going to be a starter for us" and then BAM... 45 minutes in 3 games while cesc keeps starting. on RLC, he provided us the moment of the season. 6 Forwards 9. Radamel Falcao - torre2.0. i did not agree at the time he was bought. infact i thught this might just be a success. but like everything else this season, he has been shite. 4 18. Loic Remy - poor. has not got much time to prove anything but in the time he did get, he was poor. 5 19. Diego Costa - shit. the 2nd best striker in the world has not even looked the top 3 striker in london. his link up play and hold up play are shit. his aerial presence is non-existent. the fact that WHU defenders provided him with ample space and time told us how much they felt "threatened" by him. they probably did not want to get elbowed, scratched or boxed though. he continues doing his "fakes" in the box. but the only person he fools by his brilliant "fakes" is himself. the defenders actually have enough time to take a yawn and put in a tackle between the time he does his thing. has looked fat, unfot and a shadow of the player we had bought from ATM. 3 lastly, JOSE - horrendous. egoistic, stubborn, arrogant. everything negative towards the club stems from him. not dropping cesc and iva after the city game was a massive mistake. i said it at that time and will continue to say this. i was gutted when i saw the line up against WBA. that was the moment to make a statement. give the players something to think about. but he apparently took a lets "wait and see" approach. tactically, we have looked shit. defensively we have been ripped apart and in attack we have been toothless. his persistence with cesc and iva has cost us massively. the EVA-gate, blaming the refs antics have been embarassing. he honestly needs a break. as much for us as for himself. but he definitely needs a break. 0

the shit from spurs, they bought his flight, but willian he saw the light, he got a call from abrahimovic and off he went to stamford bridge He hates Tottenham, He hates Tottenham He Hates Tottenham and He Hates Tottenham

its nothing to do with "luck". its the way we use these talented players. no trust, no value, just for FFP reasons and money making technique.

Mate, I will be loyal to someone who is loyal to my club. I will respect someone who shows respect to others. Who does not barge into the refs' room or try to bully the refs time and time again. Who respects players and treats them all equally instead of having a different set of rules for someone like cesc and a different set of rules forothers.

Get him now!!!

to be honest, at that point of time, even i thought it was a waste of money. but damn, he has been one of our best players in a long time. his workrate, his attitud club for the club is heart warming to watch. if only some of the "better players" could care half as much. also, the list u gave just makes me sad as to what we have lost. sad, really really sad.

jose can go. hazard stays. he can take cesc with him though. for free. just get him the fuck away from this club.

he is STILL here. i actually thought we might do an RDM with him - fire him in the middle of the night. guess, we will have to be out of 2 competitions for roman and the board to wake up. SHAME

who is left in midfield? witsel? imbula, kondogbia, schneiderlein all shifted clubs. cant wait for this shambolic season to end and this is just october going on.

cesc is not a creative player, he is a nothing player. cesc is a scam of a footballer. its been 15 games this season, what creative has he shown? exactly what has he done for the team. moreover, if RLC, willian and oscar are playing, then why do you need more creativity? what we need is solidity. what we need is HEART. what we need is for the players to give their all on the pitch for the club. cesc has none of these qualities. ramires and mikel are a 100 times better option for our midfield.

LOL

The problem was not the prediction. The problem is the fact that jose lovers can't see all the wrong he is doing. RLC was dropped foe the kiev game, why? Why is cesc a part of the team. Why has oscar been dropped while cesc playong as a no.10? People like u think that the sun shines out of jose's ass. RLC being dropped that day was a farce. After all the build up about RLC being ready he gives him 45 minutes in 3 matches. FARCE. Everything he has done this season has been a FARCE.

if he starts, i will actually give this match a pass. no freaking way we will win against stoke with him. no freaking way. u can quote me on this after the match. cesc is a cancer. also, this is the exact time for experiments. there wont be a better time. no one expects us to win. our own fans dont. give the young guys a chance. tell them to show us what they have got and if they have what it takes. the likes of cesc and costa have already shown what they are and what they can do. tell them to start giving a fuck about the club and then play football.

no we did not. we finished 3rd if i am not wrong. we are currently 15th. and we had bought a 21 year old eden, 20 year old oscar etc etc. they needed the time to acclimitize, to settle in. 3 years on, they seem disinterested. cesc and costa seem bored just after 1. why wont i be emotional. jose and his ego has single handedly fucked us up. we have lost some massive talents because of him and now have no creativity what so ever. when was the last time we even scored a goal from a proper attacking play. soton - freekick porto - freekick kiev - no goal villa - guzan mistake, own goal today - set piece the players seem to have lost any and all interest. i guess the fans should do that too. the manager seems to be busy thinking of excuses than to actually deal with the situation. sorry, but he has to go. i thank him from the bottom of my heart for getting us the PL last season at the cost of some brilliant players which we needlessly sacrificed for his system. but he has been found out. he has shown no indication of showing that he can adapt. cant see a single reason of telling him stay. we have 3 very important games to come. stoke in the cup (imprtant for form as well as european qualification), kiev in CL (for the qualification to the knockouts) and pool (i know top 4 is only a dream but pool are goin to be no.1 contenders for it, and this is a 6 pointer). i dont want to watch us getting eliminated from 2 competitions as well as losing any hope for top 4 within 10 days.

this match should be taken seriously. our only way of getting into a european competition for next season seems to be to win one of these cups. also winning this cup seems far more viable than actually getting top 6. hence, we should be looking to win this. hence please, just keep the lot of costa, cesc, hazard, JT away from the field. take them to a charity function or getting them some hookers, but please for the sake of the club, dont have any of them on the pitch.

wow, what an argument on a forum designed to discuss a football club and everything related to it. comeback when you have a proper reply. oh, well, seems like the guy you are backing himself has no clue as to what is happening, how can i expect his blind fans to have any. by the way, we got hazard, oscar, azpi when RDM was our manager. mata,GC when AVB was our manager. so getting players wont be that tough. if jose's only use is to "get players by talking to them on the phone". fine, keep him as a telephone operator or something.

dont worry, 2 years down the line, some posters will be boastin about costa saying "he saved chelsea from relegation, has aguero ever saved his team from relegation. so he clearly is world class."

they would be an upgrade to the current situation, but i am tired of makeshift defenders. just buy a bloody proper LB. no more azpi on the left.

in the current scenario, brendan rodgers is a better coach. lol, i have seen all too? is not that co-incidental. i have seen a team/squad of superstars, who were bought for about 320million pounds, being 15th in the table and hell playing like relegation contenders. i have seen players play who simply dont seem to give a fuck about the club, and i have seen the manager who boasts about earning their places, and fighting for the spots, just keep playing the same shit players again and again and us losing again and again. i have seen and heard our managers give the most stupid excuses ever for the defeats like blaming the ref for soton game when infact they deserved 2 penalties. so yes, i guess, i have seen it all too.. LOLOLOLOL

so now he is burned out too? i thought that was reserved for oscar only. is hazard burned out too? oh just sell the fucking lot and buy/play people who actually give a fuck about the club.