didierforever

i remember rhinoskin saying something similar about jose's PC last weekend before the pool game. why do people keep falling for it. he is an orator, everyone knows that. if games were won in PCs, we would have had no parallel..fortunately, games are decided on the field. by how a team plays, not by how someone says this or that.

u could have done the same on TC last year, we ended up winning the league. are we talking about the same bertrand who every chelsea fan is currently pining for? again, being dropped for 2 games means nothing. also, united have 4 proper attackers. we play oscar mainly for the purpose of being a "defensive" CAM and the last season, it looked like we played willian simply because he had the workrate to "cover" for iva. cesc and hazard are the only 2 players you can easily say that had the most freedom in this team. a situation totally unlike of morgan's. also, morgan played 90 minutes against spurs, soton, everton, man city. why is that not being discussed. 807 minutes in 11 PL games is hardly a thing to be mocked at. again, what chances are you talking about? exactly, football has changed a lot. there is no place in football, specially for a team like chelsea, to have cesc playing as a CM. someone who is not just slow (carrick is slow), but has no defensive sense, wont put in a shift for his team. fair enough, JT would not have been successful at barca, cos of their tactics. and cesc was never going to be successful at chelsea and that too under jose. go to the cesc thread and just this morning i posted expressing my surprise again about jose actually buying cesc (for the 100th time). but come to think of it, for which team was cesc successful? barca - hell no, arsenal - LOL. hardly a surprise that where ever he goes, the teams have to deal with the massive baggage that comes with him.

rakitic went to barca as a cesc replacement if i remember correctly. cesc was just dropped for the pool game. morgan been dropped for those games means nothing. we have seen how he plays in the last 2 years and he is a much better player than cesc as a CM. lets not even talk about consistency when comparing any X, y, Z player with either of cesc or oscar. yes, martial has been the best of the 4 but mata has been quite good too and that too as a RW. also, we as chelsea fans are testament to exactly how good mata can be through the center. my personal hate has nothing to do with the fact that for the last 11 months now, cesc has been shit. my personal hate has nothing to do with the fact that cesc , a CM, has to be given defensive protection from a CAM. as for creating, again, when? wjere? am i watching the same chelsea matches you are for the last 11 months?

14/15 - 70 points, 13/14 - 79 points 12/13 - 73 points these are the number of points the 4th spot positions have got. average is 74. we have 11 currently, which means we need another 63 or 21 wins in the next 27 games. i am not going to even start talking about it at this moment.

if we had mata, cesc would not have been brought. we would have had a real, proper CM. someone like rakitic/schneiderlein. LVG plays mata on the wing cos they have rooney. and mata has been quite successful there. creating chances is cesc? really? when was the last time he created anything? i am sorry, but this myth about cesc is too much for me to handle. lets not even talk about oscar when talking about controlling the match. the only time cesc can control the game is when he is given ample time and space on the ball. first signs of pressing and cesc is as good at controlling the game as zouma would be.

with a couple of "good" buys (a CM for sure and selling players like cesc and oscar), i feel we can seriously win europa. wont be the worst thing.

cesc and illara, :lol: what are we? an asylum for the weak minded?

each to their own. i do care how players look on the pitch. i care that despite poor form, they still give their 100%. also i want to "feel" that the players playing care about this club as much as i do. unfortunately, nothing i have seen from cesc and hazard comes even close.

i am sorry, but i cant agree with that. are you telling me that effort wise, hazard and cesc have put in the same effort for these 15 odd games and the last half of the last season? especially hazard!! when a PL player of the year is taken off at 59th minute, for a 19 year old rookie who has not started one game in PL against fellow rivals such as pool, he should look PISSED. hazard looked like he could not give a toss. jose will drop him and play whom? pedro was injured, when he was not, he started willian and pedro on the wings.

they are playing like they dont want to play here. hazard's reaction after gettting subbed off was of someone who could not give a shit. cesc has been playing that way since the start of the season. and of course fans look into these things a lot. these people are earning one week what most of us would earn in our life time. the minimum we want is for the players who are wearing the chelsea shirt to give their 100%.

i would like to say, based on their attitudes in the recent games.

oh dear lord!!! i can already see the team that is going to start bego iva gc jt azpi cesc matic pedro willian hazard costa brilliant!!!!

not true. his last resort is to put kenedy as a LB rather than actually change the formation.

winner of europa league gets CL for the next season. not that we deserve it but it could be an option....

jose has started cesc before the pool game in every game. why? creativity. even a defensive manager like jose knows that we need a creative outlet. ball control - mata >>>>>>>>>> cesc, oscar controlling the temp of the match - mata >>>>>>>>>>>>>. cesc,oscar creating chances/assisting/goalscoring - mata >>>>>>>>. cesc, oscar. our problem is that players like costa , oscar and cesc cant hold on to the ball if there life depended on it. we have no attacks, we have no creativity in our front 4, and most importantly, we have no goal scoring threat. our biggest problem is not conceding goals, thats just what happens when you have no one to run the midfield. especially with mata, we could have looked like a different team.

bego azpi zouma GC baba matic RLC traore willian kenedy remy

if there is one player who DESERVES to start, its willian.

when was the last time cesc "unlocked" a defence. cesc is a CM who cant defend. ever heard of that? we want our no.10 to be "defensive" so as to "cover" for cesc's defensive liability. infact chelsea is the only "big" team who plays with body guards for certain players. the problem is as much the manager as this no balls, shit attitude kind of players.

to be honest, i think we should get accustomed to "never heard of him" kind of players cos we are not going to get CL and we are going to lose the pull that jose has when he is sacked. all in all, bumpy ride for the next couple of years.

i am not believing that story but HE IS A CUNT. he is a grade A cunt. i still cant believe someone like jose actually bought cesc. i just cant. the biggest mystery for me. why? why? why?

definitely. 11-12/12-13 was a team which looked defensively vulnerable not as much as today's but vulnerable. in attack, mata was our main guy. the guy literally carried us for 2 years. he was the focal point of everything we did. so i dont have a shred of doubt that with mata we would not even have been in THIS situation. as for kdb, he is 10 times the player oscar is. so yes.

at the least you can own up to what you have been doing instead of acting cool. i mean posting links about what lampard said, or mr X said or mr Y said... trying to find ways to keep jose relevant.

you are STILL waiting for a reaction. these bunch of no-ballers have no grit in them to give any reaction. whats worse is that our manager is going to put forward a team of under-performing, un-caring assholes on the pitch (cesc, hazard, pedro/oscar, costa).

does anyone remember when jose had said that oscar will have a hazardesque development in his game. :lol: :lol: :lol: i still cant believe jose actually thought that this player is better than mata or KDB. damn!!! that should have been the first sign of the downfall.

so? are the current players doing it? what is our current positioning in PL? how many matches have we won this season? what has been our performances this season? how has our attacking play been? how is our defensive system? whats the point of posting, so and so is supporting jose. what comes out of it? we have become a joke, yet just because someone says that they are supporting jose that means everything will be fine, right? I dont want jose to go. cos i dont see how any manager in the world is going to win the next 23 out of 27 games to get us the top4. there is no point. the point of no return was last international break. now just bear with jose for 7 more months. and then sack him with a definitely lessened severance pay.